8filltheheart Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 I had to take my dd to her crack of dawn kickboxing class this mornign and couldn't find the book I had meant to take to read, so I grabbed the Guide to Journeys through Bookland and spent an enjoyable hour reading it. I haven't picked up any of these books since our move and I had forgotten just how much I really love this series. I am going to switch my 6th grader back to JtB after our Christmas vacation. Here is an online copy of the Guide. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24857/24857-h/24857-h.htm Quote
Chrysalis Academy Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Where will your 6th grader be starting? Or maybe she's already done some of them? Just curious where you think is an appropriate place to start for a 6th grader. I'm intrigued by these, too, but I recently got a set of Junior Classics, so probably don't need a whole second set . . . I love the guide though, and hadn't seen it before so thank you for sharing. Quote
Kfamily Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 I had to take my dd to her crack of dawn kickboxing class this mornign and couldn't find the book I had meant to take to read, so I grabbed the Guide to Journeys through Bookland and spent an enjoyable hour reading it. I haven't picked up any of these books since our move and I had forgotten just how much I really love this series. I am going to switch my 6th grader back to JtB after our Christmas vacation. Here is an online copy of the Guide. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24857/24857-h/24857-h.htm I found a old and worn but still usable copy of this volume and can't wait to get it back out of storage and start making use of it. We also have volume 9, I think, and have read some things from it too. Quote
8filltheheart Posted December 18, 2013 Author Posted December 18, 2013 Where will your 6th grader be starting? Or maybe she's already done some of them? Just curious where you think is an appropriate place to start for a 6th grader. I'm intrigued by these, too, but I recently got a set of Junior Classics, so probably don't need a whole second set . . . I love the guide though, and hadn't seen it before so thank you for sharing. We are going to start back in Vol. 4. She read vol 3 last yr. A link to vol 4 is here: http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/7013/pg7013.html Unfortunately it is not hyper-linked within the volume. I read the poem Incident of the French Camp this morning and that is definitely on the stretch side for her whereas some of the other readings are on level. So I think it is going to be a good blend of stretch/on level. Here is the TOC for vol 4: BETTER THAN GOLD ………………………………….. Father Ryan My HEART LEAPS UP……………………………. William Wordsworth THE BAREFOOT BOY ……………………….. John Greenleaf Whittier RAIN ON THE ROOF ………………………………… Coates Kinney CID CAMPEADOR ELEGY ON THE DEATH OF A MAD DOG ………………… Oliver Goldsmith MOTHER'S WAY ……………………………………… Father Ryan SONG OF THE BROOK ……………………………… Alfred Tennyson HENRY WADSWORTH LONGFELLOW ……………………… Grace E. Sellon FOOTSTEPS OF ANGELS ………………….. Henry Wadsworth Longfellow To H. W. L. ………………………………. James Russell Lowell THE VILLAGE BLACKSMITH ……………….. Henry Wadsworth Longfellow THE WRECK OF THE HESPERUS …………….. Henry Wadsworth Longfellow A DOG OF FLANDERS …………………………… Louise de la Ramee ALICE AND PHOEBE CARY …………………………….. Anna McCaleb NEARER HOME ………………………………………. Phoebe Cary PICTURES OF MEMORY …………………………………. Alice Cary THE ESCAPE FROM PRISON ……………………… Sir Samuel W. Baker STORIES OF THE CREATION THE DEFINITION OF A GENTLEMAN …………………… Cardinal Newman THE UNIVERSAL PRAYER ……………………………. Alexander Pope INCIDENT OF THE FRENCH CAMP …………………….. Robert Browning NATHANIEL HAWTHORNE ……………………………. Grace E. Sellon THE PINE-TREE SHILLINGS……………………… Nathaniel Hawthorne LANDING OF THE PILGRIM FATHERS IN NEW ENGLAND .. Felicia Browne Hemans THE SUNKEN TREASURE ………………………… Nathaniel Hawthorne THE HUTCHINSON MOB …………………………. Nathaniel Hawthorne THE BOSTON MASSACRE ………………………… Nathaniel Hawthorne SHERIDAN'S RIDE …………………………… Thomas Buchanan Read JOAN OF ARC …………………………………. Thomas de Quincey PANCRATIUS …………………………………… Cardinal Wiseman ALFRED THE GREAT ………………………………. Charles Dickens THE BURIAL OF MOSES …………………….. Cecil Frances Alexander BERNARDO DEL CARPIO …………………………….. Felicia Hemans DAVID CHEVY-CHASE ……………………………………. Richard Sheale THE ATTACK ON THE CASTLE ………………………. Sir Walter Scott THE DEATH OF HECTOR …………………………. From Homer's Iliad THE WOODEN HORSE ………………………….. From Vergil's Aeneid JOHN BUNYAN THE PILGRIM'S PROGRESS …………………………….. John Bunyan AWAY …………………………………….. James Whitcomb Riley LITTLE GIFFIN OF TENNESSEE LITTLE BREECHES ……………………………………… John Hay THE YARN OF THE "NANCY BELL" ……………………… W. S. Gilbert KATEY'S LETTER ………………………………….. Lady Dufferin THE ARICKARA INDIANS …………………………. Washington Irving Quote
8filltheheart Posted December 18, 2013 Author Posted December 18, 2013 I found a old and worn but still usable copy of this volume and can't wait to get it back out of storage and start making use of it. We also have volume 9, I think, and have read some things from it too. I just love the Guide. I re-read the section on how to read literature this morning and love the way he describes discussing literature b/c it is the natural way that I prefer over lit guides. Here is a section from what I read: When the story has ended, the pleasure has but just begun. Children like to ask questions, but they are no less ready to answer them if the questions are on things of interest, are related to the things which children know and are put in such a way that the genuine interest of the questioner is always evident. The I-know-it-all-and-you-know-nothing style of questioning; the I’m-the-master-and-you’re-the-pupil style; the because-I-ask-you-must-answer style are all fatal to interest, and will soon prevent that hearty sympathy and living spirit of coöperation that the parent wishes to secure. If we suppose it is Cinderella that has been read, we may begin our questioning in this manner: “That’s a good story. I like it, don’t you?—It is rather long, though; I’ve almost forgotten how it began.—O, was that the first thing that happened?—Was the father a rich man?—Did the story say he was rich or did you just think he was?—If he had not married a widow could things have happened as they did?—How did the widow and her daughters treat Cinderella?—If Cinderella had not been mistreated would her fairy godmother have come to her aid?—If the fairy had not appeared could the story have been the same?—How did the fairy make the golden coach?—Could she have made it out of anything else?—If she had made one just as good out of something else, could Cinderella have gone to the ball just as well?—If Cinderella went to the ball in good style did it [155]matter how she went?—If Cinderella had not gone to the ball, could she have met the prince?—Was it as important then that she should have a coach made from a pumpkin as that she should go to the ball and meet the prince?—Can you think of something else just as necessary to make the story come out right as that Cinderella should go to the ball?—Can you think of other things that must have happened just as they did to make the story come out right and just as it did?—Can you think of some things that might have happened differently and still not have hurt the story at all?—Let us put together all the things that must have happened to make the story right and leave out the things that could be changed. Now, what are they?—Now let us find a few things we could leave out or change. What are some of them?—If we left them out the story would come out the same, but would it be as good, as interesting?—Would you like Cinderella as well if these little things had been left out?—Would you think as much of the prince if he had found Cinderella right away as you do when he has to do so many hard things before he finds her?†Every one must realize the impossibility of providing a scheme of questioning that would fit exactly any given case, but will not the above suggest a method that may lead to many a happy and profitable evening at the family round table? Even if there are older children in the group they will renew their interest in the old stories and get more good from them when it is seen that father and mother do not deem it beneath their dignity, nor outside the range of their interests, to read and study a fairy tale. Quote
idnib Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks for this. I've been trying to look at it all day but have only found small bits of time. Maybe after the kids sleep I can dig in. It looks really good; I personally have mixed feelings as I just started digging into the Lang Fairy books and now feel a bit overwhelmed wondering if I should switch over. So much good stuff, so little time. Quote
Heidi Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I had to take my dd to her crack of dawn kickboxing class this mornign and couldn't find the book I had meant to take to read, so I grabbed the Guide to Journeys through Bookland and spent an enjoyable hour reading it. I haven't picked up any of these books since our move and I had forgotten just how much I really love this series. I am going to switch my 6th grader back to JtB after our Christmas vacation. Here is an online copy of the Guide. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24857/24857-h/24857-h.htm So how do you use these? Do you have her read them aloud, silent, both? Do you discuss the stories together? Do you give writing assignments from them? I'm intrigued. I would like a set. It looks wonderful! Quote
quark Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks for sharing again 8. I bought the 8-volume edition after you mentioned this series a few months ago. So buyers do be aware of the different editions. In my 8-volume 1955 copyright series, Vol 3 corresponds to the TOC of the Vol 4 you included upthread but stops at The Attack on the Castle. I am giving the first two volumes as a gift to my sis, a new mom. :) Kiddo's cousin will "inherit" the rest when kiddo's done reading them. ETA: My 1955 edition doesn't include the extensive Guide. There is only a short chapter at the back of Volume 8. The gutenberg link is much appreciated! Quote
8filltheheart Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 So how do you use these? Do you have her read them aloud, silent, both? Do you discuss the stories together? Do you give writing assignments from them? I'm intrigued. I would like a set. It looks wonderful! A combination of all of the above. For selections like some of the poems that I know she would not understand on her own, we will definitely do together. Some that she might struggle slightly in understanding, I will have her read on her own and then read together discussing as we go along, etc. Thanks for sharing again 8. I bought the 8-volume edition after you mentioned this series a few months ago. So buyers do be aware of the different editions. In my 8-volume 1955 copyright series, Vol 3 corresponds to the TOC of the Vol 4 you included upthread but stops at The Attack on the Castle. I am giving the first two volumes as a gift to my sis, a new mom. :) Kiddo's cousin will "inherit" the rest when kiddo's done reading them. ETA: My 1955 edition doesn't include the extensive Guide. There is only a short chapter at the back of Volume 8. The gutenberg link is much appreciated! I have always wondered what was sacrificed in reducing 10 volumes to 8. Do yours have the artwork inside? For those interested in purchasing the set, the one volume that has not been in very good condition in our sets (we own more than1) is the first one. It is the one I don't care if we own bc we already have other sources for the exact same selections.....Aesops Fables, nursery rhymes, etc. And Rose, I love Colliers Jr Classics as well. If I had to reduce all my books down to just a few, Jr Classics and JtB would be at the top of my keep above all others stack. The major difference between the 2 is that JtB has wonder biographies and discussions interspersed amg the literary selections and a more graduated level of difficulty (some of the selections in JtB are definitely geared to older students.) Quote
quark Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I have always wondered what was sacrificed in reducing 10 volumes to 8. Do yours have the artwork inside? There are illustrations. Perhaps not as many as the 10-volume? They have definitely reduced the number of stories/ poems etc. I didn't see the last few titles of your Volume 4 (my Volume 3 1955 ed) carried over to my Volume 4 (1955 ed). Quote
idnib Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 OK, I ordered the 10-volume set last night. It's 10 volumes plus the guide. Good thing we're spending the holidays decluttering... Quote
mathnmusic Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Are the stories unabridged? I thought that they were abridged versions ie. Robinson Crusoe, if I'm remembering correctly? I bought the 10 volume set but when I thumbed through it, I thought it had lots of condensed versions, but they're in storage now so I can't check easily. Thanks. Quote
8filltheheart Posted December 20, 2013 Author Posted December 20, 2013 They are a mixture. Some of them are abridged, some are just a portion, and some are complete. Quote
Penguin Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Yes,8, thank you for bringing this forward again. I was intrigued by your mention a few months ago, but then it had slipped my mind. Last night I was able to find a 1922 set that will ship to Denmark for a reasonable (ok, almost reasonable!) price with tracking. The first volume is missing but that is ok. Merry Christmas to me :) Quote
stripe Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 If anyone would like to see them in ebook form, take a look at these Archive: https://archive.org/search.php?query=journeys%20through%20bookland Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=journeys+through+bookland Kindle: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_n_5?rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3Ajourneys+through+bookland&keywords=journeys+through+bookland&ie=UTF8&qid=1387728032&rnid=2941120011 Quote
idnib Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 My set arrived a few days ago but I opened it last night. It looks fantastic and I'm going to start reading the guide later today. (After football. We have priorities, you know.) I'm excited but a bit overwhelmed trying to figure out how to fit this in with what was supposed to be our next project: reading the Lang fairy books. Maybe I can make my way through Bookland but switch to Lang as a replacement for the fairy stories, using Bookland for non-fairy stories until we're through Lang. Hmmm. Quote
Heidi Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 My set came last week. I read through the guide. **awesome** I have a lot going on with a move the next two months, so for now I'm using the books as assigned reading. Before, I was letting them choose what to read, but they weren't branching out in their selections. Dd8 is starting in book 2 and dd9 in book 3. They really enjoy it so far. Quote
Penguin Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 I am still waiting for my set :( Overseas shipping takes F-O-R-E-V-E-R. I can't tell you how many times I have looked at the online guide the last two weeks !!! Quote
koriz Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 I just thought that I would mention that I found Vol 1 on Google books this afternoon (if anyone else is looking for it). Quote
mama25angels Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Could anyone compare these to then My Bookhouse Set? I was gifted a My Bookhouse set and am just wondering if Journeys Through Bookland is worth owning as well. Quote
8filltheheart Posted January 3, 2014 Author Posted January 3, 2014 Could anyone compare these to then My Bookhouse Set? I was gifted a My Bookhouse set and am just wondering if Journeys Through Bookland is worth owning as well. I own both and vastly prefer JtB. I gave my ds a set of My Bookhouse for his kids bc the stories in there are younger and it has more colored pictures,etc. JtB is more a literary set. But, really, JtB volumes are available online, so there is no need to purchase a set and not know exactly what you are getting. Quote
Penguin Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 My set arrived this morning. Yippee!! Thanks again, 8. I am going to be reading from them all weekend. Quote
stripe Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 I just thought that I would mention that I found Vol 1 on Google books this afternoon (if anyone else is looking for it). Where? Could you give the URL please? I also found that it looks like it's for sale cheaply in paperback scan/reprint, if that's of interest. http://www.amazon.com/Journeys-Through-Bookland-Vol-1/dp/1434477932/ I was perusing vol 8 and was startled/impressed that the entire saga of Mary Lamb was in there, with no minced words! That was a surprise. I have My Bookhouse (as well as several other sets of this sort) and one of my kids quite likes it. It does seem to have more advanced material in the later volumes, but I haven't seen much of Journeys through Bookland to compare! Ack. Quote
mama25angels Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 I own both and vastly prefer JtB. I gave my ds a set of My Bookhouse for his kids bc the stories in there are younger and it has more colored pictures,etc. JtB is more a literary set. But, really, JtB volumes are available online, so there is no need to purchase a set and not know exactly what you are getting. Thank you, I think we'll check out the online versions first and see how much/if we use them. Quote
koriz Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 I'm hoping this link works for volume 1 on google books: http://books.google.com/books/about/Journeys_through_bookland.html?id=jZkXAAAAIAAJ There are a few volumes there (complete with images). The problem I found was that it was difficult to identify the volumes until you actually open the books at they are not clearly labeled. Quote
stripe Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 The problem I found was that it was difficult to identify the volumes until you actually open the books at they are not clearly labeled. I totally agree -- I had this problem before with a set of readers, which is why I've reposted my list of links many times! ;) Thank you -- your link worked perfectly. Quote
mama25angels Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I'm going to download vol.3 and the guide and check those out. Does everyone agree that these would probably be better in physical form instead of ebook format if we decide we need a set? Quote
shawthorne44 Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 How do you use these? What age/reading level would you start volume 1? Quote
Heidi Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Volume 1 is nursery rhymes and fairy tales. It is a good read aloud for ages 2-5. Books 2 & 3 are good read aloud for ages 5+. For independent reading I started my dd8 in book 2 and she is finding it easy to read. Dd9 started in book 3 and she is finding it challenging. Quote
Penguin Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 I was perusing vol 8 and was startled/impressed that the entire saga of Mary Lamb was in there, with no minced words! That was a surprise. Ok, so this was one of the first things I read LOL. I had no idea that there was a Mary Lamb saga. :huh: And just in case I am not the only person who only knows Mary Lamb as the Tales from Shakespeare coauthor, Mary Lamb suffered from mental illness and stabbed her mother to death. Stripe, the saga was well told in Journeys to Bookland. Add me to the startled/impressed list! Quote
shawthorne44 Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Well, darn. Gutenburg doesn't have volume 1 or 9. Based on this thread, I thought I'd download volume 1. I really like the discussion question format mentioned above, and I hate the Teacherly-I know everything-Quizzing of most Discussion Questions. Quote
teeniebeenie6 Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 And just in case I am not the only person who only knows Mary Lamb as the Tales from Shakespeare coauthor, Mary Lamb suffered from mental illness and stabbed her mother to death. Wow, that is super disturbing! Makes me question using her works in my homeschool! Quote
stripe Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Wow, that is super disturbing! Makes me question using her works in my homeschool! I have a reluctance to using her stuff too, but I knew about it already, I can't even remember when I first learned, but long ago. Ok, so this was one of the first things I read LOL. I had no idea that there was a Mary Lamb saga. :huh: And just in case I am not the only person who only knows Mary Lamb as the Tales from Shakespeare coauthor, Mary Lamb suffered from mental illness and stabbed her mother to death. Stripe, the saga was well told in Journeys to Bookland. Add me to the startled/impressed list! I knew about it, I was just surprised that it was included (without mincing words!) in the Bookland books! The situation reminds me of "Heavenly Creatures." Well, darn. Gutenburg doesn't have volume 1 or 9. Based on this thread, I thought I'd download volume 1. I really like the discussion question format mentioned above, and I hate the Teacherly-I know everything-Quizzing of most Discussion Questions. Can you look at vol 1 online at the Google link below? Try this for vol 9 https://archive.org/details/journeysthrough00unkngoog I'm hoping this link works for volume 1 on google books: http://books.google.com/books/about/Journeys_through_bookland.html?id=jZkXAAAAIAAJ There are a few volumes there (complete with images). The problem I found was that it was difficult to identify the volumes until you actually open the books at they are not clearly labeled. Quote
Forgiven Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Okay, I really need to stay away from these boards! I just bought the 10-volume set. The price wasn't too bad (13 bucks), so I couldn't resist. I know my dd(11) will love these. She loves reading classics. Quote
Just Another Jen Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I got them on my kindle for now. I'm hoping to hunt down a set at the flea market this summer. Quote
justamouse Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 That guide is better on teaching literature than many I've read. For that guide alone, it is worth the purchase/read. Quote
Hunter Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Thanks for posting this. I downloaded some PDF and Kindle versions and will look through them tonight. Quote
Hunter Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I found an almost complete set of these buried behind some old magazines. I really want to sit down with the guide and mark it up, but don't want to write in such an old book. I think I'm going to wait till I have $35.00 of books to buy from Amazon, and buy a paperback copy to scribble in. I miss the old $25.00 free shipping. It's probably good, actually, as I'm not tempted by the $35, like I was the $25. Quote
SilverMoon Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Okay. Okay. I bought the guide from the 10 set to compliment the 8 set we already own. It was yet another book purchase, but it was cheaper than another whole set. :P Quote
Forgiven Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 My complete set arrived. I was lucky to find a set with all the books in good condition. I've been reading the guide, and am just so excited to start, as is my DD, my oldest. My boys rolled their eyes when I showed them the books. In a way, I'm scared they won't treat the books with respect. I was going to wait until next fall to start using them, but I think we'll start next week. The guide is very interesting. Quote
dsmith Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 Every time this darn thread gets bumped up I have to fight with myself to not spend the money on this set. I already have four sets of vintage books filling my shelves! I sure wish I could find a decent set for a reasonable price. Quote
Monica_in_Switzerland Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 Where are people buying these from? I've got the kindle versions of 2-10 (guide), but they are no illustrated. I'd love to get illustrated copies! I've really enjoyed reading the guide! Quote
dsmith Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 I found an illustrated version of Volume 1 and the guide on Google books. I have been checking out copies to buy on ebay. Last night I decided to do a search on Charles Herbert Sylvester, and found this: https://play.google.com/books/reader?printsec=frontcover&output=reader&id=msIvAQAAMAAJ&pg=GBS.PA12 I am NOT going to look for that set, really! :tongue_smilie: Quote
Hunter Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 I used these links that Stripe posted. I found free illustrated pdfs for each volume. If anyone would like to see them in ebook form, take a look at these Archive: https://archive.org/search.php?query=journeys%20through%20bookland Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=journeys+through+bookland Kindle: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_n_5?rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3Ajourneys+through+bookland&keywords=journeys+through+bookland&ie=UTF8&qid=1387728032&rnid=2941120011 Quote
Hunter Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 I thought about buying this paperback version of the guide but I realized it might be a badly edited text version. http://www.amazon.com/Journeys-Through-Bookland-Vol-10/dp/B003YMMRUC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1TPK0RNM835UG&coliid=I1L3QB9MQ6WUV7 Quote
dsmith Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 I had been thinking the same thing, but I didn't see any reviews on any of the reprints that stated the illustrations were there. I'd rather have decent quality page scans. The guide looks rather nice on the ipad mini on the Google Play books app. It's a little laggy with page turns, but it's a very readable size. The TOC is a bit garbled though, but at least it's there. I'll have to search through the links above to find all of the illustrated volumes. I think I have 3 or 4 illustrated. Every time I start searching I get sidetracked looking at other books, especially on Google. My Google library is enormous now! I thought about buying this paperback version of the guide but I realized it might be a badly edited text version.http://www.amazon.com/Journeys-Through-Bookland-Vol-10/dp/B003YMMRUC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1TPK0RNM835UG&coliid=I1L3QB9MQ6WUV7 Quote
SilverMoon Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 The volume 10 I ordered surprisingly says volume 9 on the spine instead. Now I have to go look for 10 again. Bah. If you're curious about the differences ~ The older volume 9 TOC starts out exactly the same as the newer volume 8, but the last twelve stories of older 9 are not in newer 8 at all. Quote
Hunter Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 The volume 10 I ordered surprisingly says volume 9 on the spine instead. Now I have to go look for 10 again. Bah. If you're curious about the differences ~ The older volume 9 TOC starts out exactly the same as the newer volume 8, but the last twelve stories of older 9 are not in newer 8 at all. :grouphug: Sometimes box day can be such a disappointment, especially for used books. Quote
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