Aelwydd Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 There's a word (or is it phrase?) that really annoys me. It's awkward, it's insipid, it's one of those phrases people have contrived to convey a noble purpose, but instead, it just a offense against SYNTAX. That phrase is "god-honoring." Because "godly" has become too passé, and "honorable" simply too sinfully secular, we shall now increase our piety, along with our syllable count, by smooshing the two into pouty-mouthed, pithy-less and ugly word. It makes me roll my eyes heavenward everytime I hear or read it. I guess I just have a less than god-respectful attitude about this. Maybe I should look to increase my level of god-knowing. I wouldn't want to end up on the wrong god-d*ned end of this debate, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Clearly you need practice at being more God-honoring. :glare: Just kidding! I think it's an awkward term, too. But maybe it's just because I'm not God-honoring enough. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 It's not as bad as "fellowship," which regular people just call partying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 That's because "fellowship" is too secular. Instead, try "I'm looking to live a more god-honoring lifestyle. So, I'm only looking to hang out with Christ-followers in a god-commune. As opposed to Christians, who merely engage in fellowship." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 That's because "fellowship" is too secular. Instead, try "I'm looking to live a more god-honoring lifestyle. So, I'm only looking to hang out with Christ-followers in a god-commune. As opposed to Christians, who merely engage in fellowship." OK, now I am officially confused. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 OK, now I am officially confused. ;) Basically, there is an unofficial contest--at least it seems to me--amoung various Christian groups to find fault with mainstream Christian concepts, like "fellowship" or living a "godly" life. They can't just be Christians--most of those are fake anyway, donchaknow? Nope, if you want to set yourself apart and above, you gotta create new language to accomodate your concepts. So, you're not just a Christian, with all that historical baggage and stuff that goes with that term. Nope, you're a Christ-follower. And you're not just living a godly life, or trying to live a santified faith. Nah. It's "god-honoring." Yes, I know it technically all means the same thing. I never said there was logicalness to their methodocity. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Basically, there is an unofficial contest--at least it seems to me--amoung various Christian groups to find fault with mainstream Christian concepts, like "fellowship" or living a "godly" life. They can't just be Christians--most of those are fake anyway, donchaknow? Nope, if you want to set yourself apart and above, you gotta create new language to accomodate your concepts. So, you're not just a Christian, with all that historical baggage and stuff that goes with that term. Nope, you're a Christ-follower. And you're not just living a godly life, or trying to live a santified faith. Nah. It's "god-honoring." Yes, I know it technically all means the same thing. I never said there was logicalness to their methodocity. ;) I don't even want to think about what they'd call me. :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara in Colo Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Well................bless your God fearing, God honoring heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 I don't even want to think about what they'd call me. :eek: LOL. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjffkj Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I don't even want to think about what they'd call me. :eek: As a Catholic, they'd call me a heathen who is most assuredly going to hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 We've been at our current church off and on for over a decade now, (DH's other church gigs have taken us away for a few years here and there), and I have heard "Christ-follower" used for all of that time. I can't say that it is used to the exclusion of the term Christian.......I also hear disciple used a lot. The church is 20-ish years old, and was started to specifically reach out to those who had never been to church and those who had been a part of a faith tradition and walked away. (For whatever reason.......most people I run into who were in a church and left did so because of poor treatment by other Christians.) Makes me wonder when the phrase started to be co-oped by the "Bertha Better Than You" wing of Christianity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 As a Catholic, they'd call me a heathen who is most assuredly going to hell. That's because Catholics aren't real Christians. :rolleyes: (I will never figure that one out!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjffkj Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 That's because Catholics aren't real Christians. :rolleyes: (I will never figure that one out!!!) hehe. me neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Basically, there is an unofficial contest--at least it seems to me--amoung various Christian groups to find fault with mainstream Christian concepts, like "fellowship" or living a "godly" life. They can't just be Christians--most of those are fake anyway, donchaknow? Nope, if you want to set yourself apart and above, you gotta create new language to accomodate your concepts. So, you're not just a Christian, with all that historical baggage and stuff that goes with that term. Nope, you're a Christ-follower. And you're not just living a godly life, or trying to live a santified faith. Nah. It's "god-honoring." Yes, I know it technically all means the same thing. I never said there was logicalness to their methodocity. ;) Perhaps if you had an Accountability Partner they could Tomato-stake you until your attitude improved :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Perhaps if you had an Accountability Partner they could Tomato-stake you until your attitude improved :-). I think I'd rather go to Catholic hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 The truthful purpose of this thread is . . . ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I think I'd rather go to Catholic hell. But that's where they serve the cheap wine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I think I'd rather go to Catholic hell. I hear a lot of Episcopalians end up there......... They're a fun lot to party with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 The purpose of this thread is . . . ? To talk about words or phrases that have become so pervasive that they grate on your nerves . . . sort of the religious equivalent to the Brits saying 'brilliant' all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 The truthful purpose of this thread is . . . ? I have no idea, but it's fun so far! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I hear a lot of Episcopalians end up there......... They're a fun lot to party with! What was it Frank McCourt said about Episcopalians? Something about them being annoying with their priests and vestments and what not, and why don't they just be Catholic already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 What was it Frank McCourt said about Episcopalians? Something about them being annoying with their priests and vestments and what not, and why don't they just be Catholic already? I'll have to ask my cousin, the Episcopal priest. (Doesn't every family have at least one.) He is sure to know, and to laugh loudly about it! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 The most annoying verbing-of-a-nonverb is "purpose". I purpose to Fellowship in a God-honoring way. Gag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerine Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 She should have purposed a better purpose of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 She should have purposed a better purpose of this thread. I think my head just exploded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I don't see any linguistic problem. The English language has God-fearing bone-breaking jaw-dropping stomach-churning mind-boggling demon-possessed goal-oriented . . . all manner of similar constructions. This is why I enquired what the actual purpose of the thread is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Fellowship as a verb, when they just mean "hang out and eat some food", and purpose as a verb are tied in my head for worst Christianisms ever. And I am Christian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freckles Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 It seems to me the purpose of this thread is to make fun of Christians. :confused1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 It seems to me the purpose of this thread is to make fun of Christians. :confused1: As a Christian, I found it funny. Meh. I am the woman who frequently laughs at her crazy family because it is sometimes either laugh or cry. I find my reactions to my brothers and sisters in Christ to often be similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 It seems to me the purpose of this thread is to make fun of Christians. :confused1: Seriously? :confused: I don't think anyone is being mean. We're just joking around about all of the terminology. I'm pretty sure that many of people who have posted here are Christians. You know, except for the Catholics. ;) :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 I don't see any linguistic problem. The English language has God-fearing bone-breaking jaw-dropping stomach-churning mind-boggling demon-possessed goal-oriented . . . all manner of similar constructions. This is why I enquired what the actual purpose of the thread is. You are thinking too deeply for this. The purpose of the thread...is to grouse about a word. Other words may be added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 DH's pet peeve phrase is "each and every" we have a particular pastor who user it frequently, I keep count and text DH in the booth to harass him about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniper Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 It seems to me the purpose of this thread is to make fun of Christians. :confused1: Isn't it a sign of good mental health to be able to poke fun at oneself? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Seriously? :confused: I don't think anyone is being mean. We're just joking around about all of the terminology. Besides, we already established we're not talking about Christians. Christ-followers, however... Just kidding. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2scouts Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Aw, I'm a Christian, but this thread has me laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Isn't it a sign of good mental health to be able to poke fun at oneself? ;) I poke fun at myself all the time, but I'm not exactly the poster child for good mental health, so I'm probably not a good example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I poke fun at myself all the time, but I may not be the poster child for good mental health, so I'm probably not a good example. Wait. Does that mean if I aspire to be as sane as you when I grow up I'm in trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I don't see any linguistic problem. The English language has God-fearing bone-breaking jaw-dropping stomach-churning mind-boggling demon-possessed goal-oriented . . . all manner of similar constructions. This is why I enquired what the actual purpose of the thread is. Stop thinking. You'll miss all the fun if you keep thinking! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Wait. Does that mean if I aspire to be as sane as you when I grow up I'm in trouble? BIG trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 BIG trouble. Well NOW you tell me. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 You are thinking too deeply for this. The purpose of the thread...is to grouse about a word. Other words may be added. Actually, no. I took the original post at its face value of combining a perceived linguistic error with disdain for Christianity. Wasn't hard to detect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Aw, I'm a Christian, but this thread has me laughing. I'm a Catholic, so it's OK if I make fun of Christians and their isms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Actually, no. I took the original post at its face value of combining a perceived linguistic error with disdain for Christianity. Wasn't hard to detect. I didn't get that impression at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniper Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Actually, no. I took the original post at its face value of combining a perceived linguistic error with disdain for Christianity. Wasn't hard to detect. Alywedd, does not have a disdain for Christianity.....just certain churchianity words. ;) *she doesn't know it, but she was helpful during some discussions years ago that led me towards EO. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I am happy to be corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipsey Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 When I was a high schooler, I started attending a large church called "The Fellowship of Excitement." My atheist father always bit back a smile when I said the name. The woman who discipled me, and whom I love dearly, always said how much she enjoyed talking of "the things of the Lord," with me. My Christian boyfriend, and now-husband got a pained look every time she said this. When I worked in Christian publishing, our style book forbade the use of "gifting" (n.) and we had to use "giftedness" (n.). Just thought that might fit in with the topic of conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nyssa Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 re what Orthodox6 said: me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Actually, no. I took the original post at its face value of combining a perceived linguistic error with disdain for Christianity. Wasn't hard to detect. Feel free to make any presumption you wish about my motive. That you can do so does not make it actually correct. Now you've had your tiff. Next time, simply state your conclusion up front instead of asking as if you hadn't already decided what my inner thoughts and feelings are. It's more efficient that way, and simpler to note, and then move on. I will not engage you any further on this. Feel free to start your own purposeful thread though. I won't even go over there and make insinuations about what you really think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipsey Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 When I was a high schooler, I started attending a large church called "The Fellowship of Excitement." My atheist father always bit back a smile when I said the name. The woman who discipled me, and whom I love dearly, always said how much she enjoyed talking of "the things of the Lord," with me. My Christian boyfriend, and now-husband got a pained look every time she said this. When I worked in Christian publishing, our style book forbade the use of "gifting" (n.) and we had to use "giftedness" (n.). Just thought that might fit in with the topic of conversation. Oooh, I thought of another one. A person I knew was criticizing the use of "just" in prayers. Someone I knew would pray-- "Heavenly Father, we pray you just bless Rob, Lord. We just ask you to lift him up, Jesus, and just to fill him with your comfort." etc. The criticism was that using "just" slighted the power of God that the pray-er should be asking for such a thin slice. I thought this was silly at the time; it was a filler word, not a theological statement. Or, it was an expression of emphasis. Either way, I swallowed my own criticism in response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Alywedd, does not have a disdain for Christianity.....just certain churchianity words. ;) *she doesn't know it, but she was helpful during some discussions years ago that led me towards EO. :) There is a great deal about liturgical christianity I find beautiful and mysterious. Fascinating, even. Yes, I'm conflicted about certain aspects of the faith. Grateful for other parts. I'm a complicated onion, but I don't think I'm a hater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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