fluffybunny Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I've just bought Brave New World and was going to read it aloud to my ds13, but just wanted to check with those who have already read it: does it have anything that is not PG in there? I don't want to get half way through a sentence and realise it's about kinky sex or something like that!! :) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewelma Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 My son read it at 12 and in hind sight I would recommend closer to 15. I think he would have gotten more out of it, and we could have discussed it more easily. It really is a book about sexual norms and promiscuity. Ruth in NZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Agreeing with Ruth that it is better suited for an older high school student (age 15-16+). One of the the themes is that this very controlled culture has reversed cultural norms about sexuality: monogamy, emotional relationships, and child-bearing/child-raising are seen as the extreme of perversity. While sex comes up frequently in the novel, it is handled well -- not at all alluring / arousing, or graphic / gratuitous -- and serves to support the even more fundamental themes of societal control, ethics of bio-engineering and loss of humanity, etc. As Ruth says, an older student would be more able to think through/discuss the work. The Sparknotes synopsis of themes and motifs can be helpful for a quick overview in understanding the author's purpose. The Monarch Notes do a great job of going into depth on author background, themes in the novel, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffybunny Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Thank you so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 No. It's truly awful. It's entirely focused on s@x and is NOT very well-written. If you must read it, at least save it for later, but based on the poor prose, ranting, inconsistent characterization, and yes, terrible writing, I would advise you to put in your time on better quality literature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanley Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Brave New World Revisited is a must with that novel. I think it is important to read when discussing dystopian novels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I prtested reading it as a 10th grader. The whole thing is about sex and the perversity of culture. I was furious such trash was being pushed as 'great literature' in my top 20 in the nation rated high school. Pick something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PollyOR Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I read this in high school. Recently I reread it and was shocked. How did I miss all that? Definitely pre-read this book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailorMom Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 There are many other better novels you could go with in that direction. I'd say even 1984 would be far better (even though there is some s_x, it is no where near the same, and not as pervasive). Or, watch the movie 'V' and discuss that (I love that movie....). Animal Farm, of course, is a good one..... As for 'popular' books, The Hunger Games is not great literature, per se, but the themes are strong and there are many references back to the fall of the Roman Republic that can make for good discussion. ETA - The Giver would be another great option.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deee Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I read it in year 11. I went to a fairly open-minded Catholic girls school. I have absolutely no recollection of the book being about sex!!!!!!! It's not a standout piece of literature, but it does come up a lot in various cultural references and thus is worth reading and understanding (a bit like the Bible for atheists). I don't think kids have the maturity to deal effectively with the whole dystopian thing before 15 or so. Its a lot to process in a balanced way. I plan to wait till year 10 or so with DS. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndOfOrdinary Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I would say that it does have sex, but if you openly talk to your daughter, it would actually be a REALLY great read because it doens't portray sex very well. People are having sex a lot, but they are unhappy and don't view themselves very well. Women are treated as sex objects, don't have depth, and in general it would a really great thing to discuss with someone who is of the age where such issues begin coming up. In another instance, children (and I mean young children) are encouraged to have sex with lots of people for no good reason. The entire point is to create a society without strong values, no strength in a family unit or in specific partnerships. When people don't have those bonds, they are easier to lead astray and get to do whatever the dominant people wanted them to. Another great conversation about the importance of family and values. The dominant society in this book is not viewed well; it is very much so written almost like satire. It is the idea that these people seem happy, but are popping Soma (drugs) constantly to remain going, buying new things just to have the instant thrills but still remain feeling empty, and are generally lead quite heavily by a dominant culture which is using them. If you wanted to really talk with your daughter about it, it could actually be an incredible novel to read to your child on the brink of the teenage hears. FAIR WARNING: the character who has trouble with the drugs, sex, and craziness of the dominant culture kills himself at the end because he can't deal with all the people. My husband is a high school english teacher and teaches this ever year. I am planning on reading it to my son at 11 and discussing the issues within it. It would never be a novel I had a student read without significant and lengthy discussions. It is a great guidence book. Fahrenhiet 451 is one to have her read that is similar, but no sex, no drugs, and much clearer message. It is a great independent novel for that age if she hasn't read it already. The Hunger Games, and the Giver both reference and sample from Fahrenheit in multiple places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Mom4 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 DS17 is reading Brave New World now. He is about half way thru and says he finds it very disturbing. But the things he finds disturbing are not necessarily things he would have picked up at age 13. The Freudian references, the de-valuation of humans, the breeding of consumers from pre-birth. He just finished Fahrenheit 451 and definitely is drawing the parallels. He says he would have probably found the book a bit gross at age 13, but much less disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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