melmichigan Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I am amazed that this photo was released. The newborn sits in his car seat for the ride home. (You have to page through to see the one I am referring to.) Please tell me this isn't how they drove this kid home. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara in Colo Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 We had this discussion recently, I honestly think that the mother readjusted it once they were in the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Spoiler alert--he made it home safe!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Spoiler alert--he made it home safe!! You made my day! So funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/481839-baby-george-car-seat-safety-poll/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara in Colo Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 And honestly, babies used to come home from the hospital in their mother's arms. To think of those times as gone -- is sad, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmichigan Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share Posted July 27, 2013 See what happens when I go on vacation? Disregard and carry on, I obviously better get reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 See what happens when I go on vacation? Disregard and carry on. Eh, that'll teach ya! I hope your vacay was fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrganicAnn Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 That was not the royal baby. Obviously different blanket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara in Colo Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 That was not the royal baby. Obviously different blanket. SO-- in your opinion, did they take the wrong baby home? Or show the world the wrong baby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrganicAnn Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 SO-- in your opinion, did they take the wrong baby home? Or show the world the wrong baby? So if Aliens snatched the real royal baby, do you think maybe they have a spare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara in Colo Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 How many spare heirs to they need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 We drove my boys home totally wrong from the hospital. More wrong even than that. We had a planned homebirth, so installing the carseat had not been high on the to do... We asked the nurses had we put them in right and they rolled their eyes at us and said it was none of their business. But... hey, they lived. We figured out what to do later. No big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepyl Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 That was not the royal baby. Obviously different blanket. If tou look at an earlier close up of the baby, it was Swaddle in two blankets. You can see one of the birds. Who has never mad a mistake raising their kids? I know many people who have driven across town at one time only to discover that baby was not properly buckled, scary, yes, but no one is perfect. I have forgotten the handle before. They made a mistake, I am sure they have seen the criticism and they probably learned how to use the seat now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Obsession with car seat straps = first world parent problems IMO. This stuff just doesn't hit my radar and I wouldn't be critical of a parent about it. Especially a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 That was not the royal baby. Obviously different blanket. Oh for crying out loud. It's not like babies never make a mess of blankets? Moms never grab a different blanket or or.. Or if we are going to suggest that, and use that blanket logic, for all you know the first baby wasn't the royal baby and that one is. Or maybe she had TWINS and one is being kept hidden away to be raised in secret in case they screw up this one and need a replacement!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 LOL There are 3 threads on this board about that car seat, and the baby is not even a week old. The child was driven home in an escorted tank (pretending to be a Range Rover). There was probably RAF support as well. He wouldn't have be in (car seat) danger even if his mother had held him all the way to the palace. I can't wait for the controversy surrounding his first horse-drawn carriage ride. ;) #21stcenturyroyalbabychildrestraintproblems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 about 15 years ago I was at a photography studio and a mom and grandma had a baby in the kind of car seat you carry by the handle. The baby was just sitting in it, not strapped in. I knew that sometimes when you picked the seat up, it could tip forward in such a way that the baby could tumble out of the seat. I told the mom that the baby wasn't strapped and she quite snippily told me she knew. At this point, the seat and baby were on the ground. I said I was just saying it because i knew the seat could tip baby out. Yes, she was aware, she told me, even snippier. Fast forward a few minutes later and grandma came up from where ever she had been and picked the car seat up and the baby tipped out and landed on her face. I felt horrible but i would have felt MORE horrible if I hadn't said anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 That was not the royal baby. Obviously different blanket. :laugh: OMGosh. Conspiracy theories so soon! Maybe he's adopted and they faked the pregnancy. Really...isn't all just too pat? Women have been beheaded for not producing males, and the whole of the Russian Empire fell , in part, because of Alexei's hemophilia, but here goes this princess, having a healthy boy her first time out? Hmmmm...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 That was not the royal baby. Obviously different blanket. If you look carefully, you can see that blanket with the birds inside the white blanket in the other pictures. Edited to add: UGH! I cannot believe I am arguing about this. I need to get a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 LOL There are 3 threads on this board about that car seat, and the baby is not even a week old. The child was driven home in a escorted tank (pretending to be a Range Rover). He wouldn't have be in danger even if his mother had held him all the way to the palace. I can't wait for the controversy surrounding his first horse-drawn carriage ride. ;) #21stcenturyroyalbabychildrestraintproblems. DS was born in the UK, and I can't count the number of times he rode around London, in my arms, in a cab. And I'm pretty sure the royal baby's chauffeur was driving a lot slower. ;) I also carried DS out of the hospital in my arms — and I was walking (4 days after a C-section), not in a wheelchair. No one asked to look at my car seat, let alone how DS would be strapped in. Things are different in the UK. LOL at the horse-drawn carriage... :lol: Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessMommy Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Obsession with car seat straps = first world parent problems IMO. This stuff just doesn't hit my radar and I wouldn't be critical of a parent about it. Especially a new one. I agree. I don't know why people are so worked up about this. Did anyone see the photo with the car surrounded by a sea of people? I think they would have gotten home faster if they'd used a pram and walked home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 DS was born in the UK, and I can't count the number of times he rode around London, in my arms, in a cab. And I'm pretty sure the royal baby's chauffeur was driving a lot slower. ;) I also carried DS out of the hospital in my arms — and I was walking (4 days after a C-section), not in a wheelchair. No one asked to look at my car seat, let alone how DS would be strapped in. Things are different in the UK. LOL at the horse-drawn carriage... :lol: Jackie LOL There was probably RAF support as well. Sadly, I think the car seat was/is the least of their concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest submarines Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Obsession with car seat straps = first world parent problems IMO. Yes, yes, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Or maybe she had TWINS and one is being kept hidden away to be raised in secret in case they screw up this one and need a replacement!!! The Man in the Iron Mask!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmichigan Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 I also carried DS out of the hospital in my arms — and I was walking (4 days after a C-section), not in a wheelchair. No one asked to look at my car seat, let alone how DS would be strapped in. Things are different in the UK. Jackie Different works for me, and I appreciate the explanation. I wasn't allowed to leave the hospital room with any of my children until they were properly strapped into a carseat, the nurses wouldn't sign the discharge papers until then, even with the fifth child. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmichigan Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 Eh, that'll teach ya! I hope your vacay was fun. It was fun, we had nice weather, sandy beaches, someone else cooking, and angry bird cupcakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAS in LA Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 about 15 years ago I was at a photography studio and a mom and grandma had a baby in the kind of car seat you carry by the handle. The baby was just sitting in it, not strapped in. I knew that sometimes when you picked the seat up, it could tip forward in such a way that the baby could tumble out of the seat. I told the mom that the baby wasn't strapped and she quite snippily told me she knew. At this point, the seat and baby were on the ground. I said I was just saying it because i knew the seat could tip baby out. Yes, she was aware, she told me, even snippier. Fast forward a few minutes later and grandma came up from where ever she had been and picked the car seat up and the baby tipped out and landed on her face. I felt horrible but i would have felt MORE horrible if I hadn't said anything! Yep, we totally dumped dd face-first into the grass at a wedding when she was about 4 months old. It was dark and when dh picked up the seat he didn't notice that we hadn't fastened the straps. She doesn't seem to have been affected; we, of course, nealy panicked and still have residual guilt feelings. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCEmom Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I doubt they drove home like that, and if they did well I bet more than a few people have already informed them of their error. ;) They're first time parents who may or may not have made a mistake. I don't see what the big deal is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 about 15 years ago I was at a photography studio and a mom and grandma had a baby in the kind of car seat you carry by the handle. The baby was just sitting in it, not strapped in. I knew that sometimes when you picked the seat up, it could tip forward in such a way that the baby could tumble out of the seat. I told the mom that the baby wasn't strapped and she quite snippily told me she knew. At this point, the seat and baby were on the ground. I said I was just saying it because i knew the seat could tip baby out. Yes, she was aware, she told me, even snippier. Fast forward a few minutes later and grandma came up from where ever she had been and picked the car seat up and the baby tipped out and landed on her face. I felt horrible but i would have felt MORE horrible if I hadn't said anything! Oh my--that poor baby! I know this can happen from experience. We were at church and dh was holding ds2 in his car seat. He was completely buckled in. Which was a good thing because ds1--who for years *had* to push every button he saw--pushed the button that releases the handle of the car seat. The seat flipped over but since ds2 was buckled in he didn't fall out. I don't think he even cried, he was that young. It was a scary moment, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewingmama Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 We don't have chest clips in Australia...they are considered dangerous here. No one checks we have a carseat when we leave the hospital either...and I carried my baby out in my arms...no wheelchair or escort necessary lol. In fact I was getting bored with my 3 day stay so when DH came to visit we took the baby out to the shops and then DH dropped me back at the hospital a few hours later....no one even noticed. When I came back in the nurse smiled and asked if we had a nice walk around the gardens LOL. I admit I am a carseat Nazi...my kids were all buckled in perfectly for the trip home...where we drove exactly 20km/ph to our house which was two streets away from the hospital in a tiny country town LOL I'm betting the royal baby was safer then mine in that tank and driving at probably about the same pace LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 We don't have chest clips in Australia...they are considered dangerous here. No one checks we have a carseat when we leave the hospital either...and I carried my baby out in my arms...no wheelchair or escort necessary lol. In fact I was getting bored with my 3 day stay so when DH came to visit we took the baby out to the shops and then DH dropped me back at the hospital a few hours later....no one even noticed. When I came back in the nurse smiled and asked if we had a nice walk around the gardens LOL. I admit I am a carseat Nazi...my kids were all buckled in perfectly for the trip home...where we drove exactly 20km/ph to our house which was two streets away from the hospital in a tiny country town LOL I'm betting the royal baby was safer then mine in that tank and driving at probably about the same pace LOL. How odd that in one place something is considered dangerous and in another place the very same thing is considered essential to safety. I wonder how that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momto10blessings Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 We don't have chest clips in Australia...they are considered dangerous here. No one checks we have a carseat when we leave the hospital either...and I carried my baby out in my arms...no wheelchair or escort necessary lol. In fact I was getting bored with my 3 day stay so when DH came to visit we took the baby out to the shops and then DH dropped me back at the hospital a few hours later....no one even noticed. When I came back in the nurse smiled and asked if we had a nice walk around the gardens LOL. I admit I am a carseat Nazi...my kids were all buckled in perfectly for the trip home...where we drove exactly 20km/ph to our house which was two streets away from the hospital in a tiny country town LOL I'm betting the royal baby was safer then mine in that tank and driving at probably about the same pace LOL. Lucky. Our hospital has anklet alarms they put on the babies. If they are taken off or get to close to the exit, an alarm goes off and the birthing center locks down. They also make you bring your carseat into the room before you leave and buckle your baby in to make sure they are strapped in as tight as possible. Then an escort wheels mom down to the main entrance with baby in her lap in the carseat and they have to be picked up at the entrance. It is insane and I hate it every time. Only once was I able to convince them to let me walk out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 That was not the royal baby. Obviously different blanket. What appaerntly happened is that they had the baby swaddled in the a&a blanket, then had a fancy white blanket VERY similar to the one around William when he was first shown to the world AROUND the a&A blanket (you can see the print in some of the pictures). Then went inside to put the baby in the car seat and took the fancy white blanket off/ But yes. This is the royal baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 How odd that in one place something is considered dangerous and in another place the very same thing is considered essential to safety. I wonder how that happens. Germany doesn't have chest clips either. Seats have to have a one point only mechanism to open and release the belt. Having a chest clip makes two points to open. It is considered dangerous in case of fire because it would take longer to get the child out of the seat if there was a chest clip. I freaked out about the seats in Germany a bit because I was convinced my kids would fly right out between the straps without a chest clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessMommy Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I wonder if the reason why the hospitals here in the US are so uber careful is because we're a libel happy nation? I don't know how it compares with Australia or the UK, but in America if something had happened to a baby who wasn't properly strapped in their first ride home, the lawyers would have found a way to take both the hospital and the carseat company to court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Germany doesn't have chest clips either. Seats have to have a one point only mechanism to open and release the belt. Having a chest clip makes two points to open. It is considered dangerous in case of fire because it would take longer to get the child out of the seat if there was a chest clip. I freaked out about the seats in Germany a bit because I was convinced my kids would fly right out between the straps without a chest clip. Makes sense. I wonder how long it will be before the rules change for each place as the research changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I wonder if the reason why the hospitals here in the US are so uber careful is because we're a libel happy nation? I don't know how it compares with Australia or the UK, but in America if something had happened to a baby who wasn't properly strapped in their first ride home, the lawyers would have found a way to take both the hospital and the carseat company to court.I'd bet good money that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Makes sense. I wonder how long it will be before the rules change for each place as the research changes. It makes me wonder how each place comes up with the safety/risk guidelines it follows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaners Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 about 15 years ago I was at a photography studio and a mom and grandma had a baby in the kind of car seat you carry by the handle. The baby was just sitting in it, not strapped in. I knew that sometimes when you picked the seat up, it could tip forward in such a way that the baby could tumble out of the seat. I told the mom that the baby wasn't strapped and she quite snippily told me she knew. At this point, the seat and baby were on the ground. I said I was just saying it because i knew the seat could tip baby out. Yes, she was aware, she told me, even snippier. Fast forward a few minutes later and grandma came up from where ever she had been and picked the car seat up and the baby tipped out and landed on her face. I felt horrible but i would have felt MORE horrible if I hadn't said anything! Ugh, you can't win, huh? I was at an OB appointment one time, and this dad was in the waiting room with a little bitty baby and a toddler. I've left my husband in the same position enough times to feel sorry for the guy. I wouldn't want to be keeping little ones quiet in that waiting room either, and this office was the worst for scheduling. For a while they were intentionally triple-booking appointments because an OB left the practice, so the waiting room was always full and the wait was long. The baby was about to fall asleep, and the dad went to put her in the car seat carrier. When my oldest was about that age, she fell asleep in her seat/stroller combo unbuckled in the mall, and we put her in the car without realizing it. I have palpitations thinking about it even now, because I'm ridiculous. But I can't help myself, so I tell this poor guy about that, and it comes out totally wrong, and he buckles the little bitty baby in then and there. Baby, predictably, spends the next 45 minutes in the waiting room crying because she had been woken up. I still feel bad about it almost 4 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lea_lpz Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 We had this discussion recently, I honestly think that the mother readjusted it once they were in the car. My dd always cried in her infant seat when we drove for more than say 10 minutes and she wasn't asleep. Every time. If it wasn't her established nap or bedtime she did not fall asleep. It did not matter if you had some o e sir back there to be with her. Having her in my arms and able to nurse her and just hold her facing forward was so nice while on vacationing in Mexico when she was 6 months old. For the first time I really wished we could just not have to have a car seat. I think she got carsick facing backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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