# She can't count but she can add?

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DD is 6, just finished K at a private school. She can count to 5, but gets confused on 6-10 and lost beyond that. BUT she can add, subtract, and knows how much each number is (e.g., can just jump 9 spaces on a Monopoly board or pull out a 4 and a 5 Cuisenaire rod to represent 9).

She uses an abacus to help her with addition and subtraction, but can also do it in her head without it.

DH is freaking that she can't count, and I'm a little worried too that it just won't "stick" in her head, but she gets addition and subtraction.

Is this weird or just a stage? Yes, I'm working with her and starting Miquon Orange for the summer, but I'm less concerned than DH and wondering if he's right or overreacting?

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I got all the Miquon books from CurrClick on PDF. Good to know Rainbow Resource has them too.

It's not lingual, she has the exact same issue in both languages.

I've never seen anything like this. I'm baffled.

ETA: stubborn IS her middle name....

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It's definitely a stage that both of my older kids went through (one skipped six; one skipped . . . five?), but earlier than this . . .

So if you show her "16," can she tell you what that number is? Or she could add 5 and 2 in her head? Or she only does addition with the numbers she's comfortable with?

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It's definitely a stage that both of my older kids went through (one skipped six; one skipped . . . five?), but earlier than this . . .

So if you show her "16," can she tell you what that number is? Or she could add 5 and 2 in her head? Or she only does addition with the numbers she's comfortable with?

16 is fuzzy, but she recognizes 1-10 easily, just can't count in sequence.

Her addition/subtraction is with numbers 1-10.

I'm going to treat her as if we are starting from scratch and adapt as necessary. I'm just wondering if this is a common stage.

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It's definitely a stage that my first two hit. A really, really annoying stage.

You can teach her with "one, two, buckle my shoe.' That makes it harder to leave out a number. But whenever my second transitioned to just counting, poof, there went six again.

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Nothing with this child is easy. Nothing. At least I know this too shall (we hope) pass....

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If it's of any help at all, after my first, who did that, absolutely blew through math after she finally started to . . . idek. She worked out whatever wasn't working out. I've never seen a child less adept at acquiring kindergarten math. Then in first grade she's done SM 1-3.

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I think there might be a couple things going on here.

1) addition is an innate ability (this study has been duplicated numerous times)

2) counting is more important than reciting numbers

3) she might be distractedby what she's counting

I suspect that you're asking her to simply recite the numbers: "Count to 20 for me, please." Out loud, without manipulatives. Which is fine, but not nearly as important as her being able to count with manipulatives. Now, if she can't use beans or whatever to count, then there might be a number theory problem.

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I think there might be a couple things going on here.

1) addition is an innate ability (this study has been duplicated numerous times)

2) counting is more important than reciting numbers

3) she might be distractedby what she's counting

I suspect that you're asking her to simply recite the numbers: "Count to 20 for me, please." Out loud, without manipulatives. Which is fine, but not nearly as important as her being able to count with manipulatives. Now, if she can't use beans or whatever to count, then there might be a number theory problem.

Yep. Recitation is the problem. Manipulatives make things much easier.

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My DD6 is doing something similar to this. I would just start from scratch and move forward as fast as she wants. I'm trying not to freak out as well. I'm trying Rod and Staff Arithmetic 1, as it is similar to some K programs and goes through counting and the numbers for longer than some 1st grade curricula.

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