5LittleMonkeys Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Ken Ham is one of the speakers. I really, really need to stay off of facebook for awhile. Next person who posts that they're excited to hear him speak about dinosaurs is going to send me over the edge. I really, seriously just can not wrap my head around that way of thinking....I've tried and it just defies logic. It's hard to live in an area where this is the predominate believe. Oh, and I'm just venting here so I don't vent on facebook...I'm not interested in debating anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzybluecheese Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I have a friend who vents to me rather than losing friends on FB. The only problem is than I want to join FB so that I can tell them what I think. Maybe instead of FB, you should watch a little TV. I think "Land of the Lost" is on Hulu. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateReignRemix Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 In his defense, Ken Ham's FB posts are a riot to read. His hypocrisy is amazing to watch in action and the ignorance of his followers is often delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Mom Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 If this convention is the one I think you're referring to, it's going to be my first hs convention. I'm going for the products. I have zero interest in any of the speakers. I don't even know who Ken Ham is....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 This topic always surprises me. Around here irl this debate NEVER comes up. I'm glad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzybluecheese Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 In his defense, Ken Ham's FB posts are a riot to read. His hypocrisy is amazing to watch in action and the ignorance of his followers is often delicious. It's like you're trying to talk me into joining FB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Dinosaurs, mosquitoes, and amber resin lived together. All you need is a little frog DNA-- and snap! people walking side by side with raptors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzybluecheese Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Dinosaurs, mosquitoes, and amber resin lived together. All you need is a little frog DNA-- and snap! people walking side by side with raptors. No, no, no! I saw Jack Horner on TEDtalks. You take a chicken and you work your way backwards. Edited to fix quote. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 No, no, no! I saw Jack Horner on TEDtalks. You take a chicken and you work your way backwards. :) Thank you. You can never quite take the dyslexia out of the girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 No, no, no! I saw Jack Horner on TEDtalks. You take a chicken and you work your way backwards. Dang. You're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 As much as I would love to peruse some materials IRL, I think I would be hard pressed to convince DH we should pay for a convention at which we would have zero seminars to attend. Unless it we could just pay for the vender hall. I have seen a few conventions advertised that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 We're going to Teach Them Diligently in Omaha in two weeks and I honestly can't wait! :D There are several speakers I'm looking forward to hearing, Heidi St. John being near the top of my list. There are a dozen or more presentations per session, I honestly don't know how you wouldn't find something you could attend, Lulu... Have you looked at a schedule? But, being OE/evolution all the way, when Trap and I were looking through the sessions schedule he said, "We're skipping everything Ken Ham, right?" I keep thinking we should go to the first evening session (since there's nothing else going on during that slot), just so I can say, "Yeah, I saw him in person. Wow..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Well we are not really near anything convention wise. A year or so ago I tried to time our summer trip to the in-laws to coincide with a convention on the way there but it did not work out. The first year or two we homeschooled I wanted to go to a convention so bad I almost couldn't stand it. I think i viewed it as a homeschooling rite of passage. After six years, I'd like to spend some time with materials, but I have found downloading seminars online to be wonderful; honestly it is probably better than a convention for my introverted self. I can sit alone, listen to my lecture, and enjoy my coffee or alcoholic beverage of choice. (We will pretend that which I am consuming is determined by the time of day. :p ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G5052 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Yes, I'm YE, and even I don't like Ken Ham. His attitude and his leaps of logic drive me bonkers. We heard him speak some years back, and I felt like I was in pep rally against the opposition, which I didn't think was very appropriate at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 I know that there are some good speakers there, but I couldn't shake the feeling I'd catch some weird brain devouring disease if i stepped foot in a building he was occupying. That seems the only rational reason someone might give any credance to anything that man spouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samiam Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I volunteered at a convention a few weeks ago where he was a speaker. My job was to sit near the stage, and make sure no one went up on the stage after the speaker was done. So I had to hear him for almost an hour. I was floored by what he said and not in a good way. Even more shocking was how he named and showed video clips of Christian "bigwigs " who HE didn't think were bring Christian enough. Afterwards homeschooling families lined up to take pictures with him !?!?!?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K&Rs Mom Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 In his defense, Ken Ham's FB posts are a riot to read. His hypocrisy is amazing to watch in action and the ignorance of his followers is often delicious. I sometimes almost envy this line of thinking (yours, not his). I get so annoyed, because these are actual people who are just not thinking, and I don't understand how they can be fooled like that, and things I don't understand drive me crazy. Plus I remember that they have equal citizenship and their votes could affect my life. If I could be entertained by it instead of stressed, that would be nice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Afterwards homeschooling families lined up to take pictures with him !?!?!?!! Sheeple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I agree that he is hysterical. He's an unwitting parody of himself and his beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I volunteered at a convention a few weeks ago where he was a speaker. My job was to sit near the stage, and make sure no one went up on the stage after the speaker was done. So I had to hear him for almost an hour. I was floored by what he said and not in a good way. Even more shocking was how he named and showed video clips of Christian "bigwigs " who HE didn't think were bring Christian enough. Afterwards homeschooling families lined up to take pictures with him !?!?!?!! This is what I find downright disturbing. It is some of the most UNChristian behavior I have ever seen. I am done with conventions of *this* sort as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Even more shocking was how he named and showed video clips of Christian "bigwigs " who HE didn't think were bring Christian enough. I can't help but wonder how this attitude isn't legalism... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PachiSusan Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I have always wanted to go to a home school convention... But only to get my hands on the books...lovely books!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PachiSusan Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 You HAVE to share who he thinks aren't Christian enough... I wonder if I know them!! <snicker> I volunteered at a convention a few weeks ago where he was a speaker. My job was to sit near the stage, and make sure no one went up on the stage after the speaker was done. So I had to hear him for almost an hour. I was floored by what he said and not in a good way. Even more shocking was how he named and showed video clips of Christian "bigwigs " who HE didn't think were bring Christian enough. Afterwards homeschooling families lined up to take pictures with him !?!?!?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 You HAVE to share who he thinks aren't Christian enough... I wonder if I know them!! <snicker> Yes. I know of plenty that he probably wouldn't consider to be Christian enough, but I'm so curious to know who's currently on his radar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Sheeple. Hey! My sheep take exception to that remark! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samiam Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I am not familiar with anyone he mentioned, as I don't follow any of those trends/news/people....the only one I recognized, and I can.not.remember his name this early in the morning, was the guy from the Great Homeschool Convention kerfluffle a few years ago.....gheesh, what is his name? Ken made a point to point him out by saying "you all may remember my disagreement with this gentleman..." And then went on to show a video clip of this guy speaking. The other men were men who were highly educated, Christian, working at Bible Colleges, or Universities, or seemed like huge churches. Ken made sure to list out their credentials before attempting to discredit each one after showing their pics or video clips. His whole lecture was about Christians stumbling these days if they are willing to accept the Genesis did not happen in 6 actual days, but over many many years, willing to accept that the term "day" was not intended to mean one 24 hour timeframe, and thus that evolution is being accepted along with that, that too many Christians are accepting science, ie evolutIon, and mixing it with the Bible........he lectured instead we need to accept the Bible as written. Regardless if one agrees with him,t I thought it distasteful to bring up and point out specific individuals, pull clips ,and perhaps even out of context (who would know unless we had watched the whole lecture/statement of these people?!?), and them not be there to defend themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Jay Wile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I volunteered at a convention a few weeks ago where he was a speaker. My job was to sit near the stage, and make sure no one went up on the stage after the speaker was done. So I had to hear him for almost an hour. I was floored by what he said and not in a good way. Even more shocking was how he named and showed video clips of Christian "bigwigs " who HE didn't think were bring Christian enough. Afterwards homeschooling families lined up to take pictures with him !?!?!?!! I admit I don't know who the guy is. maybe someone should send him a beam. but from the descriptions, I doubt he'd understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Question about the creation museum. Dinos are shown cavorting with Adam and Eve, before the fall, when there was no death and all were vegetarian. How does Ham explain why these animals have so many big, sharp teeth and nasty claws? I've always been curious about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 How does Ham explain why these animals have so many big, sharp teeth and nasty claws? I've always been curious about that. To eat watermelons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 To eat watermelons. Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 My sarcasm detector is pinging... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaelAldrich Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 [/background][/size][/font][/color] I can't help but wonder how this attitude isn't legalism... Hey now! We "legalists" (i.e., Orthodox Jews) won't stand for sticking him with us either!!! :glare: :tongue_smilie: :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Seriously? I am completely serious. And not being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahrazad Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I am completely serious. And not being sarcastic. What?! Are you saying they really say those are for watermelons? I also assumed you were being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Only Monopoly guys! She's not kidding. :scared: Page 34 of Dinosaurs for Kids: "So why did animals like T-Rex need sharp teeth if they weren't eating meat? Well if you were going to eat certain plants, branches, vegetables and fruit (like pumpkins and watermelon), you would need very sharp teeth!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateReignRemix Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Only Monopoly guys! She's not kidding. :scared: Page 34 of Dinosaurs for Kids: "So why did animals like T-Rex need sharp teeth if they weren't eating meat? Well if you were going to eat certain plants, branches, vegetables and fruit (like pumpkins and watermelon), you would need very sharp teeth!" And we have supposedly rational, thinking adults who read that and think "Hey, this makes sense!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateReignRemix Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 What?! Are you saying they really say those are for watermelons? I also assumed you were being sarcastic. And pumpkins! Don't forget the pumpkins! Because you know...fruit bats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 OK, so obviously I'm not even going to be able to go to that single session, even for the novelty. I can feel brain cells dying just thinking about it. And I don't want to have to be rude and get up and drag my family from the auditorium in the midst of a lecture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Only Monopoly guys! She's not kidding. :scared: Page 34 of Dinosaurs for Kids: "So why did animals like T-Rex need sharp teeth if they weren't eating meat? Well if you were going to eat certain plants, branches, vegetables and fruit (like pumpkins and watermelon), you would need very sharp teeth!" I managed to dig this up: It's from Dinosaurs and the Bible, which I don't think AIG sells anymore, but looks so familiar to me that I'm pretty sure they did have it in their catalog at one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belacqua Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 The dino in the background licking his lips has utterly made my day. Made. My. Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahrazad Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I managed to dig this up: It's from Dinosaurs and the Bible, which I don't think AIG sells anymore, but looks so familiar to me that I'm pretty sure they did have it in their catalog at one time. Thank you for this. Just snorted coffee all over my keyboard. Cannot....stop....laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Well Dinosaurs for Kids is available at this moment at Amazon (with a 3star rating, btw) and while the quote is there, I didn't see a picture. Apparently that would have been just over the top... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PachiSusan Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 DIG this up...get it??? HA ha!!! I managed to dig this up: It's from Dinosaurs and the Bible, which I don't think AIG sells anymore, but looks so familiar to me that I'm pretty sure they did have it in their catalog at one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 He convinces me that sometimes ignorance is a willful choice. Vegetarian t-rex? Oh my. It's a bit sad when my 4 year old son possesses greater knowledge on a subject than a grown man merely because my son watches DINOSAUR TRAIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslana Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Homeschooler confession: I've been homeschooling now for almost 15 years and I've NEVER been to a big convention! I've been to a few, very small, very local ones. And guess what? I managed to graduate one kid and am about to graduate another. :D To the person who had to sit, for the whole hour, listening to Ken Ham? I am SO sorry. My eyerolling would not only have been obvious, but I think they would have heard it all over the building. And the snorting too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateReignRemix Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 My DH managed to get himself blocked from the Ken Ham FB page. He swears he was polite. I am not so sure about that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 To eat watermelons. :svengo: sure it wasn't to eat catus? I have an auracaria tree (re: monkey puzzle tree) that originates from that time period. my sons hate it becasue it's so spikey. leather gloves are barely adequate protection for it's branches. I can see why some would find him so hilarious . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 DIG this up...get it??? HA ha!!! Oh, lol. I didn't mean to do that. But the nice thing about watermelons is that you don't have to dig them up. They're just there, in nice round balls, growing in the sand, in a desert, by a coconut tree. I haven't lived in sub-tropical Florida for long, but this seems a bit odd. And the T. Rex. Of course. A cactus fruit would have made more sense here. Yes. :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 So on top of all the other scientifically implausible information they are teaching, they are showing a t-Rex was able to reach its mouth with its arms?!?!? Maybe we can make a list of what they are getting right there; I think it would take us less time and space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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