energy2c Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I bought AAS 1 for my 5 yr old and we have blown through it. I love AAS and can afford to buy new levels but would rather spend money elsewhere if possible. I ordered WRTR 4th level used and wonder if it covers as much as AAS. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Spalding covers more than AAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility7 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Spalding covers more than AAS. Can you elaborate? I started with WRTR (and have loads of respect for it) but switched to AAS to get more hand-holding for the actual lessons. We LOVED AAS and had wonderful success with it (DS is a fabulous reader and speller), but I'd also really like to know what we missed so I can cover it. I recall WRTR covered handwriting, which AAS does not. Are there other things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I have read of many success stories with AAS. :-) Spalding (Spalding is the method; WRTR is the manual) includes handwriting as part of the spelling lesson. It also covers capitalization and punctuation and simple writing (if you do the reading, writing, and grammar lessons, there will also be literature analysis and more complex writing).. And everything is taught from one manual. :-) The children will learn 70 phonograms--the first 54 (with the first-through-fourth editions, 45 with the fifth and sixth editions), after which they begin learning the words in the Extended Ayres List, then the rest of the 70. By the end of the year they will have learned over 1000 words, which they've analyzed and studied and written multiple times. They'll be reading from good trade books instead of vocabulary-controlled basal readers and writing simple sentences (some will be writing more than others). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility7 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I have read of many success stories with AAS. :-) Spalding (Spalding is the method; WRTR is the manual) includes handwriting as part of the spelling lesson. It also covers capitalization and punctuation and simple writing (if you do the reading, writing, and grammar lessons, there will also be literature analysis and more complex writing).. And everything is taught from one manual. :-) The children will learn 70 phonograms--the first 54 (with the first-through-fourth editions, 45 with the fifth and sixth editions), after which they begin learning the words in the Extended Ayres List, then the rest of the 70. By the end of the year they will have learned over 1000 words, which they've analyzed and studied and written multiple times. They'll be reading from good trade books instead of vocabulary-controlled basal readers and writing simple sentences (some will be writing more than others). Ahh, ok. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energy2c Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 As part of AAS I have the cd with phonograms sounds and letter tiles. I know 4th edition also has perforated cards. What else would I need to implement the program? I've read through many threads about WRTR but I guess I just have to read the book thoroughly to learn how to implement it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveBaby Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 You might hold onto the AAS Phonogram cards if you have them. The ones in the 4th edition are just plain paper, not cardstock and aren't perforated. The sounds for both are similar, but you can mark in a sharpie on the back of the AAS cards the difference, as well as the handwriting prompts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energy2c Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 If my daughter already knows how to read is it worth going over all the phonograms again in the book? I'm mainly looking at this book for spelling but we could always use more reading practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 If my daughter already knows how to read is it worth going over all the phonograms again in the book? I'm mainly looking at this book for spelling but we could always use more reading practice. Are you asking about doing Spalding? Then yes, you teach the Spalding phonograms from the beginning; you just teach them as quickly as she can go through them, as opposed to doing only four a day. You don't really separate reading (as in "learning to read") from spelling with Spalding. You just teach children how to spell. If their reading skills need beefing up, Spalding will take care of that; if their spelling skills need improvement, Spalding will take care of that. If their penmanship and capitalization/punctuation skills need beefing up, Spalding will take care of that. Spalding is good for what ails you. :-) Remember: Spalding is the method; WRTR is the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking-Iris Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Okay I've been contemplating switching from OPGTR to WRTR. You say the entire manual can be done in a year? And I can start it with a Kinder? He can read CVC words and knows some sight words (the, said, that etc) and his handwriting is really good. But I don't feel he is making progress with blends (FRog, he'll usually read fog or rog, and he has no concept of silent e or vowel teams). He can sound out a spelling word if it's CVC and he can write a sentence either as copywork or with someone helping him verbally. He doesn't mind readers but reading the lessons in OPG usually elicit tears or grumbles. He doesn't mind ETC but I don't want his reading lessons to be all workbook. Should I just get WRTR 4th edition (or would another be better?) and start at the beginning? Since he doesn't struggle with handwriting will it help him read? He'll do a reading lesson reluctantly but he doesn't mind writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Okay I've been contemplating switching from OPGTR to WRTR. You say the entire manual can be done in a year? And I can start it with a Kinder? He can read CVC words and knows some sight words (the, said, that etc) and his handwriting is really good. But I don't feel he is making progress with blends (FRog, he'll usually read fog or rog, and he has no concept of silent e or vowel teams). He can sound out a spelling word if it's CVC and he can write a sentence either as copywork or with someone helping him verbally. He doesn't mind readers but reading the lessons in OPG usually elicit tears or grumbles. He doesn't mind ETC but I don't want his reading lessons to be all workbook. Should I just get WRTR 4th edition (or would another be better?) and start at the beginning? Since he doesn't struggle with handwriting will it help him read? He'll do a reading lesson reluctantly but he doesn't mind writing. Whichever edition of the manual you buy, you still have to start at the beginning. :-) Yes, you can start with a 5yo. That he doesn't "struggle with handwriting" is irrelevant. It is the writing of the phonograms that is important; the improved handwriting is a plus. :-) In a year, he will learn all 70 phonograms and things like the five reasons for final silent e (Spalding doesn't teach "vowel teams"); how far through the spelling list he gets depends on how many words y'all can do in a week, and for a 5yo, that might only be 20. Older dc can usually do 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energy2c Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 Thank you Ellie, you have great advice ill start from the beginning. I'm trying to find resources on how to implement it. I bought WRTR and returned it because I was overwhelmed but I'm determined to give it a 2nd try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Thank you Ellie, you have great advice ill start from the beginning. I'm trying to find resources on how to implement it. I bought WRTR and returned it because I was overwhelmed but I'm determined to give it a 2nd try. :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiannaC Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I use Spell to Write & Read, which I believe is very similar to WRTR. For my K5 son we have done 10 words a week, which was recommended. It has been very doable. We will do 20 words in 1st grade & I think by 3rd grade, she recommends 40 words, with review of previous words at the beginning of the year. My plan is to finish by 5th grade. My son is reading & spelling well, so I'm pleased with this method! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energy2c Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 DiannaC, I've heard of that but haven't looked at it yet. We are currently 30 lessons away from finishing OPGTR and before that we finished teach your child to read in 100 easy lessons. I'm not worried about the reading but needed something cheaper for than AAS. Do you use that program with an emphasis on spelling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 DiannaC, I've heard of that but haven't looked at it yet. We are currently 30 lessons away from finishing OPGTR and before that we finished teach your child to read in 100 easy lessons. I'm not worried about the reading but needed something cheaper for than AAS. Do you use that program with an emphasis on spelling? SWR is a Spaldlng spin-off, so it works the same way: you teach the dc to spell, and along the way they also learn to read and write. :-) IOW, you really can't do it *without* an emphasis on spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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