Kathryn Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 There he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Michelle* Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/04/argentines-jorge-bergoglio-and-leonardo-sandri-offer-strikingly-different/ A little background: Both are the sons of Italian immigrants. Both are doctrinal conservatives. And both are known for their warm personalities.But the two Argentine cardinals widely given an outside chance to become pope have had very different careers. Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who would be the first Jesuit pope if chosen, has spent nearly his entire career at home in Argentina, overseeing churches and shoe-leather priests. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/04/argentines-jorge-bergoglio-and-leonardo-sandri-offer-strikingly-different/#ixzz2NRvMkdUR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soror Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Wiki already has some info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 My kids and I halted school to watch! What are all the Catholics here thinking of the new choice? I'm not familiar with him at all. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I was laughing because we are watching CNN and apparently none of the talking heads know Latin so it took a minute after the announcement in Latin for them to announce who they *thought* it was and still for a long time afterwards they kept saying "if it is who we think it is." DH was questioning me last night on why I wanted to teach the kids Latin and I just joked with him that then they wouldn't have to wait for Anderson Cooper to get a translator to tell him who the new pope is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Interesting. USA Today chose the pope name, but associated it with the wrong pope. Article from a couple days ago. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/03/12/pope-conclave-name/1982921/ "Church historian Matthew Bunson suggests that if Cardinal Sean O'Malley, archbishop of Boston, is chosen, the Capuchin monk may break new pope-name ground by calling himself Francis, for St. Francis of Assisi, who founded the Franciscan religious order. He might even call himself Pope Francis I. Pope John Paul I was the most recent pontiff to create a new name rather than honor a past pope. And, unusually, John Paul I added "the first" to his name from the get-go, so O'Malley might follow suit." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsunshine Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 We stopped school to watch, too! He seems like a sweet man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithr Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Wow! Seems like a lovely, humble man. I am so excited! Thank you, Jesus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Michelle* Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It may be more likely that he's after St. Francis Xavier since he was a Jesuit also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
at the beach Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 :hurray: So exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Jen Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 A Jesuit not a Jedi - that was a momentary disappointment to my 7 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avila Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I was laughing because we are watching CNN and apparently none of the talking heads know Latin so it took a minute after the announcement in Latin for them to announce who they *thought* it was and still for a long time afterwards they kept saying "if it is who we think it is." DH was questioning me last night on why I wanted to teach the kids Latin and I just joked with him that then they wouldn't have to wait for Anderson Cooper to get a translator to tell him who the new pope is. There are advantages to EWTN. Some of the commentators know Latin. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Wonderful! He seems like a wonderful man and a Jesuit to boot! Very exciting and heartening even for this non-Catholic (although I was baptized RC so I guess the RC still has a claim on me. :D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It's so cool to be able to watch this live. I loved his prayers and the way he was able to connect with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Can someone give me a run down on what Jesuit means. I have heard it before but don't really know what it means. :blushing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armymomma Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It is after Francis of Assisi according to what I read...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 A Jesuit not a Jedi - that was a momentary disappointment to my 7 year old. Jesuits are almost as awesome as the Jedi though. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It is after Francis of Assisi according to what I read...... Cool! I always liked Francis Assisi. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Can someone give me a run down on what Jesuit means. I have heard it before but don't really know what it means. :blushing: The Society of Jesus The Society of Jesus (Latin: Societas Iesu, S.J., SJ or SI) is a Christian male religious order of the Roman Catholic Church . The members are called Jesuits and are also known colloquially as "God's Marines",[2] these being references to founder Ignatius or Loyola's military background and members' willingness to accept orders anywhere in the world and live in extreme conditions. The society is engaged in evangelization and apostolic ministry in 112 nations on six continents. The society's founding principles are contained in the document Formula of the Institute, written by Ignatius of Loyola. Jesuits are known for their work in education (founding schools, colleges, universities and seminaries), intellectual research, and cultural pursuits, and for their missionary efforts. Jesuits also give retreats, minister in hospitals and parishes and promote social justice and ecumenical dialogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanSue Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Can someone give me a run down on what Jesuit means. I have heard it before but don't really know what it means. :blushing: The Jesuits are a religious order in the church similar to the Franciscans, Dominicans, Carmelites, etc. There are a lot of religious orders--those are just a few of the bigger, more famous ones. They were founded by St. Ignatius Loyola in the 16th century. In the US they are most known for running educational institutions: Georgetown, Boston College, St. Louis University--lots of big schools. Lots of high schools. I'm sure many here were "Jesuit educated." The Jesuits are not known for their orthodoxy but many are wonderful, of course. And Pope Francis is, as far as I know, considered "orthodox." He is most likely not to be a "radical" in any direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Can someone give me a run down on what Jesuit means. I have heard it before but don't really know what it means. :blushing: Here's the Wikipedia entry - Society of Jesus. They're a religious order of the RC Chruch. From that: Jesuits are known for their work in education (founding schools, colleges, universities and seminaries), intellectual research, and cultural pursuits, and for their missionary efforts. Jesuits also give retreats, minister in hospitals and parishes and promote social justice and ecumenical dialogue. I frequently troll Jesuit education resources because those guys understand education. If a Jesuit school opened anywhere near me I'd drop homeschooling in a heartbeat and send my kids there. Excuse me, I get all starry eyed when talking about Jesuits. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanSue Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It is after Francis of Assisi according to what I read...... I don't think anyone could know this for sure at this point. The cardinals, obviously, do not advertise the name they would choose and why beforehand. Pope Francis will likely let us know but it could just as easily be St. Francis Xavier who was an early Jesuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nyssa Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Congratulations! Many years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'm very pleased with the choice... and not just because I was right about it being someone from South America this time around (my dh and I had been debating about that!) but because he seems to be a genuinely good, kind, and honest man. And as silly as this sounds, he has a kind and gentle expression. Also, Francis is my favorite saint, so I love the choice of names (and the symbolism of it, as well.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggieamy Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 The Society of Jesus The Society of Jesus (Latin: Societas Iesu, S.J., SJ or SI) is a Christian male religious order of the Roman Catholic Church . The members are called Jesuits and are also known colloquially as "God's Marines",[2] these being references to founder Ignatius or Loyola's military background and members' willingness to accept orders anywhere in the world and live in extreme conditions. The society is engaged in evangelization and apostolic ministry in 112 nations on six continents. The society's founding principles are contained in the document Formula of the Institute, written by Ignatius of Loyola. Jesuits are known for their work in education (founding schools, colleges, universities and seminaries), intellectual research, and cultural pursuits, and for their missionary efforts. Jesuits also give retreats, minister in hospitals and parishes and promote social justice and ecumenical dialogue. Someone once told me that the Jesuits are like the mafia but without the crime. I took that to mean that they are very behind the scenes getting things done and don't like the spotlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I don't think anyone could know this for sure at this point. The cardinals, obviously, do not advertise the name they would choose and why beforehand. Pope Francis will likely let us know but it could just as easily be St. Francis Xavier who was an early Jesuit. I think this is a good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanSue Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 We are excited. Bergoglio was a front-runner last time and is rumored to have been the "runner-up" to Benedict at the last conclave. He was widely thought to be too old this time around so it was definitely a surprise pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'm very pleased with the choice... and not just because I was right about it being someone from South America this time around (my dh and I had been debating about that!) but because he seems to be a genuinely good, kind, and honest man. And as silly as this sounds, he has a kind and gentle expression. Also, Francis is my favorite saint, so I love the choice of names (and the symbolism of it, as well.) Yup, to everything here. My father and husband are non-practicing Catholics, but I'm the one that has always felt the draw to Catholicism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanSue Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 From Wikipedia: As Cardinal, Bergoglio became known for personal humility, doctrinal conservatism and a commitment to social justice. A simple lifestyle contributed to his reputation for humility. He lived in a small apartment, rather than in the palatial bishop's residence. He gave up his chauffeured limousine in favor of public transportation,[3] and he reportedly cooked his own meals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillmarie Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Someone once told me that the Jesuits are like the mafia but without the crime. I took that to mean that they are very behind the scenes getting things done and don't like the spotlight. ROTFL. I *just* got off the phone with my aunt and she eluded to the same thing. How funny! She is very devout, attended Catholic schools, attended Loyola University in Chicago, is very active in her parish and helped a guy with writing a book about the time of the French in Illinois years ago, which obviously brought quite a few Jesuits to our area in the earlier days. Heh, I knew my family would be geeking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanSue Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 My early impressions are that we didn't get a "media pope" like John Paul II but nor do we have the aloof-professor-type we had in Ratzinger (I loved Ratzinger's writings but he wan't exactly a charmer in person). Pope Francis seems like a very down-to-earth, humble man. I hope that means he knows how to roll up his sleeves and get to work. My husband has been arguing that we need an Italian to be pope because only an Italian could work with the unique Italian way of doing (or not doing) business in Rome. Perhaps Bergoglio's Italian heritage will serve him well in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieSong Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Do you know who he looks like? http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/463555-pope-francis-or-governor-swan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Someone once told me that the Jesuits are like the mafia but without the crime. I took that to mean that they are very behind the scenes getting things done and don't like the spotlight. That is interesting because we had a really weird neighbor man that kept going off about how the Jesuits were going to secretly take over America and then the world, or something like that. I was just like this :huh: :ohmy: :wacko: when he talked about it. I had no clue what he was going on about. He read it inside of some kind of conspiracy book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieSong Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'm very pleased with the choice... and not just because I was right about it being someone from South America this time around (my dh and I had been debating about that!) but because he seems to be a genuinely good, kind, and honest man. And as silly as this sounds, he has a kind and gentle exp<b></b>ression. Also, Francis is my favorite saint, so I love the choice of names (and the symbolism of it, as well.) I don't think it sounds silly at all. I was thinking the same thing when I saw him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanSue Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 That is interesting because we had a really weird neighbor man that kept going off about how the Jesuits were going to secretly take over America and then the world, or something like that. I was just like this :huh: :ohmy: :wacko: when he talked about it. I had no clue what he was going on about. He read it inside of some kind of conspiracy book. They are a very top-down, obedience-driven organization and they are good at raising money. So it's a fertile combination for conspiracy theories :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Here's the Wikipedia entry - Society of Jesus. They're a religious order of the RC Chruch. From that: I frequently troll Jesuit education resources because those guys understand education. If a Jesuit school opened anywhere near me I'd drop homeschooling in a heartbeat and send my kids there. Excuse me, I get all starry eyed when talking about Jesuits. :D You would love the book The Jesuits and Education by William McGucken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljenn Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I am not Catholic, but dd and I watched this with interest. It is very important for the future of Christianity, Catholic or not. Francis seems like a good man and a good choice. He seemed like more of a people person like John Paul II, hopefully he will be a great pope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggieamy Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 That is interesting because we had a really weird neighbor man that kept going off about how the Jesuits were going to secretly take over America and then the world, or something like that. I was just like this :huh: :ohmy: :wacko: when he talked about it. I had no clue what he was going on about. He read it inside of some kind of conspiracy book. They are a very top-down, obedience-driven organization and they are good at raising money. So it's a fertile combination for conspiracy theories :) We have a Jesuit high school in town that's highly regarded. A number of years ago (like when my aunts were kids) the school was desperately in need of a new athletic field and there was no money for it. I don't know who decided that but the school and the principal were told they weren't going to be able to get it. A few days later the Jesuit leadership at the school had lined up like donations on their own and construction was started immediately. There wasn't anything scandalous about it just motivated people who knew how to get things done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 OK, my hubby Frank (Francis) is part Italian...and taking this as a good omen. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Pope Francis sounds like a good man from what I've read so far. I hope he will serve as a strong and effective leader for the Catholic Church (I am not Catholic but DH is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom in High Heels Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Though we are not at all religious, Indy and I have been watching this with interest. It's a fascinating process and I wonder what sort of shenanigans go on behind the scenes to get a certain person elected. When Francis I finally came out on the balcony and then they showed the crowds, Indy kept pointing and yelling "We were there! We were right there! We saw that balcony! Look, I stood by that lamp. Hey! That's where we sat in the shade!" It was pretty funny. Someone once told me that the Jesuits are like the mafia but without the crime. I took that to mean that they are very behind the scenes getting things done and don't like the spotlight. *SNORT* I went to an all girl Jesuit high school and this is so true. That is interesting because we had a really weird neighbor man that kept going off about how the Jesuits were going to secretly take over America and then the world, or something like that. I was just like this :huh: :ohmy: :wacko: when he talked about it. I had no clue what he was going on about. He read it inside of some kind of conspiracy book. Has he been reading Dan Brown books? Those things will rot your brain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 We enjoyed watching the news coverage here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PachiSusan Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I am thrilled with the choice. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa in SC Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Funny story: My 86 year old, Catholic father-in-law lives with us. Our school room is upstairs. We were having school when fil starts yelling from the bottom of the stairs, "Smoke! There's smoke! There's smoke!!" So I race to the stairs thinking the house is on fire or something, and I'm yelling, "Where?? Where's the smoke!" My boys are preparing to evacuate. Fil starts jumping up and down. I'm running through my mental checklist and gathering the boys when he finally yells, "White smoke and bells!!" Ok...power down the adrenalin...no fire. There's a new pope. Whew...fil just about did me in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Has he been reading Dan Brown books? Those things will rot your brain! I have no idea. He is very odd. The way he was talking was that it was from a true book, but I wouldn't be surprised if he took fiction seriously. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Funny story: My 86 year old, Catholic father-in-law lives with us. Our school room is upstairs. We were having school when fil starts yelling from the bottom of the stairs, "Smoke! There's smoke! There's smoke!!" So I race to the stairs thinking the house is on fire or something, and I'm yelling, "Where?? Where's the smoke!" My boys are preparing to evacuate. Fil starts jumping up and down. I'm running through my mental checklist and gathering the boys when he finally yells, "White smoke and bells!!" Ok...power down the adrenalin...no fire. There's a new pope. Whew...fil just about did me in. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Funny story: My 86 year old, Catholic father-in-law lives with us. Our school room is upstairs. We were having school when fil starts yelling from the bottom of the stairs, "Smoke! There's smoke! There's smoke!!" So I race to the stairs thinking the house is on fire or something, and I'm yelling, "Where?? Where's the smoke!" My boys are preparing to evacuate. Fil starts jumping up and down. I'm running through my mental checklist and gathering the boys when he finally yells, "White smoke and bells!!" Ok...power down the adrenalin...no fire. There's a new pope. Whew...fil just about did me in. Oh, my! You'll laugh about that later. Do you mind if I laugh about it now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterflymommy Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Argentina but Italian, hmm There are very large italian (and german) immigrant groups in argentina, much like we have italian americans here. He looks great for 76! wow. I thought he was at least 10 years younger, when I first saw him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa in SC Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Oh, my! You'll laugh about that later. Do you mind if I laugh about it now? Laugh away!! I know we are. What is there to do *but* laugh? Life with this particular 86 year old is fairly similar to life with a 2 year old on a sugar high. You never know what he's going to do next, but you sort of expect a certain level of chaos ~ and, hey, at least my house is still standing! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Anyone else having a hard time remembering to say Pope Francis instead of St. Francis when referring to the new pope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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