lewelma--wws2/ltow 2 ?

[freesia]

I've been thinking about my sequence for the next couple of years and have a question for you. I know that LTOW 2 continues the comparison paper and, I believe that you said that was in WWS 2, as well. Have you had time to develop a sense of how they are different from one another in that regard? If I remember correctly, you said you were going to do just the comparison part of LTOW and I am wondering what the "value added" you are seeing in that vs. what your son got this year in WWS 2. (I am thinking only of the structure element, not the style.) The conference I am going to this year won't have a Circe booth and you are the only one I know who has either one of these curricula!

 

Thanks

[shanvan]

Have you read these posts?

 

http://forums.welltr...ls#entry4744149

 

http://forums.welltr...ls#entry4744149

[freesia]

Have you read these posts?

 

http://forums.welltr...ls#entry4744149

 

http://forums.welltr...ls#entry4744149

Yes, thanks, that will help a lot. I just haven't seen WWS2 so I am wondering if the treatment of comparison is treated in a significantly different way from LTOW. I guess my full question is that if we do LTOW 1 which covers the comparison paper and then do WWS2 would we still "need" to do LTOW 2 (the comparison part, not the deliberative, judicial part)or would WWS2 sufficiently cover the invention for that type of writing?

[lewelma]

We have not hit the comparison part of WWS yet. Most of WWS2 is on the definition essay or literary comparison. In general, WWS is taking a lot more time to cover the different invention topics, so by design it goes more in depth than LToW. There are more questions to ask yourself, more example passages, more detail as to how comparisons different between science and history etc. Plus it mixes all this with research skills.

 

My current plan is to finish WWS2, compact LTOW1 and the first half of LTOW2 into 9 months to give my student the big picture, and then finish WWS3. If SWB gets WWS3 out earlier, I might change this plan.

 

Have you seen this thread? http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/455439-my-comparison-of-wws-to-ltow/

 

HTH,

 

Ruth in NZ

[shanvan]

I want to note that when I spoke with David Kern on Friday he instructed me not to go past lesson 8 (I'll double check my notes to be sure i have that correct) in LToW 1. He said LT2 will be covering more in-depth what was in the remaining lessons from LToW1.

[shanvan]

 

 

Have you seen this thread? http://forums.welltr...of-wws-to-ltow/

 

HTH,

 

Ruth in NZ

 

 

Opps! That's what I meant to link in my first post.

[freesia]

We have not hit the comparison part of WWS yet. Most of WWS2 is on the definition essay or literary comparison. In general, WWS is taking a lot more time to cover the different invention topics, so by design it goes more in depth than LToW. There are more questions to ask yourself, more example passages, more detail as to how comparisons different between science and history etc. Plus it mixes all this with research skills.

 

My current plan is to finish WWS2, compact LTOW1 and the first half of LTOW2 into 9 months to give my student the big picture, and then finish WWS3. If SWB gets WWS3 out earlier, I might change this plan.

 

Have you seen this thread? http://forums.welltr...of-wws-to-ltow/

 

HTH,

 

Ruth in NZ

 

Thanks, that does help. Yes, I read your other thread which is what got me thinking along these lines. I have LTOW 1 and we will be doing it next year. Since LTOW 1 introduces the Comparison essay I was unsure how it (comparison)was fleshed out more fully in 2 and if it was similar to what would be in WWS2. So,what I wonder is if we do LTOW 1 followed by WWS 2 would LTOW 2 add enough to make it worth the extra money. I guess you'll know more after you do it.:-)

 

Thanks again for all the time you have taken to share the info you've gleaned. I really appreciate it.

[freesia]

I want to note that when I spoke with David Kern on Friday he instructed me not to go past lesson 8 (I'll double check my notes to be sure i have that correct) in LToW 1. He said LT2 will be covering more in-depth what was in the remaining lessons from LToW1.

 

I had heard that they are going to remove the Comparison from 1 in future editions. I'm not sure how I feel about that as I am pleased that we will at least have an introduction to Comparison next year.