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I have been reading the thread about the 7yo with "poopcidents," and was prompted to finally post about my DD. She will be 7 in May, and for the past 9-12 months, she's been having almost daily accidents. Just urine, and never a flooding - just a bit.

 

I've let it go on for a while thinking her body was just out-of-sync during growth, but it has gone on so long, it's gotta be something different.

 

She says she doesn't notice, and doesn't feel the wet. It doesn't bother her in the least! She is only bothered by the embarrassment of being called out. She doesn't even want to check when I ask if she's wet or dry.

 

We eat pretty clean - I've had her mostly gluten-free since January, and we eat few grains, and a generally fairly Paleo-type diet. But she does eat dairy and oatmeal and kid Clif-Bars and things like that.

 

There was some discussion of constipation causing urine accidents on the other thread - I had not considered that. I will have to do some investigating - I haven't been involved with her potty habits for some time.

 

I've tried to tie some gentle incentive to see if she can be prodded to get control (I'll buy a sparkly belt for you when you can stay dry!) but to no effect.

 

I don't think she can control it, but I have no idea why. I've told her if its still a problem when we go in for her 7yo well-check, we will have to discuss it with her pediatrician, and she does want to avoid that.

 

You all had some great input on the other thread, but as this is a urine-only issue, I didn't want to hijack that thread, and see if there were any other ideas for this situation.

 

I would so love to help her past this gently, but I sure am soooooo tired of the laundry and the smell (though you can only smell it if you're close up and checking.)

 

Thanks in advance for any help!

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:bigear: My 6 year old dd has been doing the exact same thing for about a year as well. The daily part comes and goes, but nights are a complete disaster. I've had to buy diapers again for night time, because I got really sick of washing her sheets every. single. morning.

 

I got her checked for a UTI and it was negative. Now I just try to remind her often to use the bathroom.

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Visiting the doctor is the right thing to do. After years of kidney and urinary tracts infections, youngest DD had similiar problems. Her pediatric urologist gave us some exercises to do with her to help her learn to fully empty her bladder and then some bladder training to strength her control. Honestly it worked like magic and none of it was painful or invasive.

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It happens at all kinds of times. I've thought to set a timer for regular intervals to have her go, but just haven't.

I don't think she wets at night, but she might. It's not enough to flood during the day, so it might not be that much overnight, either.

 

This is my child who will take the easy way every day of the week, so I have some exasperation with all the many daily reminders she requires. I guess I've thought this is just another thing she can't be bothered with, but I honestly don't think she'd choose to be wet, even though she claims it doesn't bother her. It may just be a coping mechanism for something she cannot control. :(

 

I had not considered constipation or kidney/uti issues before, but it is almost comforting to know it could be as simple as all that, at which point I will kick myself for letting it go on this long!!!

 

Thanks for all the replies so far! Keep 'em coming. :)

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Most often of a child is well trained for a number of years and starts to wet it is a medical issue. Don't wait for a yearly check. And while you are waiting for the appointment next week, help her by setting a timer for her to go try every hour. She is too young to be responsible for that on her own.

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A timer can sometimes help as it is not mummy nagging. But if she has a weak bladder going more frequently rather than filling the bladder makes it worse. My son has encarpresis (not spelt right but it is a stretched malfunctioning bowel) and it definately effects his bladder. It is a rare day that he goes through less than three changes of clothing.

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My biggest concern would whether it is a UTI, they can get dangerous if not treated quickly. Your patience about it is inspiring! My brother had pooping issues and experienced harsh abuse over it from a Nanny. It always does my heart good to hear about gentle approaches to bathroom issues. I hope you can get to the bottom of it quickly.

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If it's not a UTI, try a chiro. If the nerve to the bladder is being squashed, they won't feel the need and will not understand why they've wet. If it is a chiro issue, you'll notice a difference straight away. How long it lasts depends how soon it is before she does a somersault off the couch and lands wrong. :glare:

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I bet it is "hidden" constipation. I read this article last year and it really made sense. It is specifically about bed wetting but I read the book and he addresses daytime as well. He says that kids can poop everyday and still be constipated, it's that they are holding more poop inside and so you don't realize. It basically squashes the bladder and it can't hold much anymore. Over time it also makes the nerves in the bladder less responsive so that kids don't even know they have to go.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/family/2012/03/bed_wetting_the_simple_cause_your_doctor_probably_missed_.html

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My dd did this. It was on and off again from 5-8. It drove me crazy. She waited too long to go potty and was constantly changing underwear, not even the pants. No incentive worked. I did tell her to go bathroom every hour but it just nagged her. She rarely has it happen at 9, but it does from time to time. Heck, she had a friend over the other day and they were laughing so hard she peed in her pants. No embarrassment at all on her part :glare:

 

But time helped and I hope in another few years these accidents are completely gone. I will say that just when I thought we were past it she would have a week of accidents. I do think it's got to be hormonal related based on how it came and went pretty cyclic.

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I had a friend whose daughter had this problem and it was caused by a painless and otherwise symptom-free UTI. Once it was treated, everything went immediately back to normal.

 

Sometimes this can be spine related. We never got to the point of having accidents but we were told it was something to watch out for because it could happen as a progression of dd's spine problem.

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If it's not a UTI, try a chiro. If the nerve to the bladder is being squashed, they won't feel the need and will not understand why they've wet. If it is a chiro issue, you'll notice a difference straight away. How long it lasts depends how soon it is before she does a somersault off the couch and lands wrong. :glare:

 

 

This is what happened to my 3 year old. Potty-trained for over a year and all of the sudden was having accidents up to 20 times a day. Not wetting her pants all the way but just tinkling in them. We started at the chiropractor and within a few months she stopped having little accidents and now has been accident free for over 2 months!! She had a pinched nerve in her lower back that made it so she couldn't feel that she had to go.

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I'd see your doc to check for both a UTI and constipation. My oldest had this exact same issue. After some time with daily miralax, she cleared up. I would have NEVER guessed that she was constipated. It was nice to know it wasn't a bladder emptying issue or anything else like that.

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I'd definitely check out the UTI possibility. If you do the timer too, maybe buy a really cool girlie watch and have HER set the timer. Maybe she'll "own" it more that way.

 

 

I thought about this, but the girl ditches accessories like you wouldn't believe! She'd take it off within the first 3 hours, and I'd find it beeping under the couch or something. :p

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