Ipsey Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I really don't mean to hammer the gay point into the ground, but I saw this today and. . . geez. Maybe the fact that he was gay, and black, and a Dem in Mississippi had nothing to do with his murder. But I think that will be a tough sell. I left Mississippi 7 years ago, and . . . I see stuff like this and it makes me so angry. it's the most religious place I've ever lived, and easily the most bigoted :( The two are connected. Please, can we do something about things like this? http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57571782/marco-mcmillian-openly-gay-black-mayoral-candidate-slain-in-mississippi/ I hope this isn't political. I don't mean for it to be. I just want to raise awareness. I am just about in tears right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByGrace3 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 it's the most religious place I've ever lived, and easily the most bigoted :( The two are connected. :blink: :huh: seriously? religious= bigoted? Hopefully I am misunderstanding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatherwith4 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 It is extremely sad that someone with so much promise is gone. :( That being said, I saw nothing in the story to suggest he was killed because he was gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyinNNV Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Nothing in the article links religious bigots with the murder of this man. Is there more to the article I missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Nope. Nothing divisive about this post. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticmom Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 While there are still bigots in Mississippi there are at least some in many other states as well. There are also many people in Mississippi who are not bigots, in fact, possibly most of the people in the state are not. In my experience bigotry and Christianity are not necessarily linked. Please do not mischaracterize the entire state based on the actions of one person whose motive(s) are not known at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 There are bigots of multiple types in every state and in every country. There are religious people of multiple faiths (as well as non-religious people) in every state and in every country. Using a Venn diagram, there will be some set intersection, but never a complete overlap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truscifi Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 There are bigots of multiple types in every state and in every country. There are religious people of multiple faiths (as well as non-religious people) in every state and in every country. Using a Venn diagram, there will be some set intersection, but never a complete overlap. This made me smile. I love a good Venn diagram. :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateReignRemix Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 While there are still bigots in Mississippi there are at least some in many other states as well. There are also many people in Mississippi who are not bigots, in fact, possibly most of the people in the state are not. In my experience bigotry and Christianity are not necessarily linked. Please do not mischaracterize the entire state based on the actions of one person whose motive(s) are not known at this point. Given Mississppi's history on racial issues along with some very conservative religious groups, a connection like this will be made while questions are still being asked about the murder. Is there a connection? I have no idea. However, I also wouldn't be surprised if there was one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Given Mississppi's history on racial issues along with some very conservative religious groups, a connection like this will be made while questions are still being asked about the murder. Is there a connection? I have no idea. However, I also wouldn't be surprised if there was one. I'm with you. In the deep south there are still pockets (some very large pockets) of people who still have a 19th century attitude about race. I saw a lot of it when I lived in another deep south state. If one hasn't experienced the hate in this day and age, it is hard to fathom. It is very disturbing. Then add that this guy was openly gay. Yeah, sadly, it isn't surprising that he has been murdered. We like to think that the ugliness is behind us. Some places still have a long way to go. It is a sad thing that this man was murdered. I hope justice prevails. May his family eventually have peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I don't see anything about why this guy was murdered. We have no idea. For what it's worth, that would probably be black bigot people you are blaming- I don't know how many of them are there or if any of them are murderers. The fact that his car was crashed being driven by someone else who ran away makes me think it was a more common robbery/murder not a political murder at all or a murder precipitated by some type of bigotness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I don't know why you'd think this was automatically a hate crime. It sounds like the killer was in the vehicle with the mayoral candidate according to the article. Maybe an argument that got out of hand leading to the wreck and then the murder? Being from the South and religious, I find it insulting that suddenly we are all painted with the broad brush of bigotry. Does it still exist in the South? Yes. Does it still exist in the Pacific NW? Yes. Does it still exist in the North and East? Yes. Hate and ignorance are found in many religious groups and in many geographic areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 The article I read this afternoon said they've seen nothing that makes this a hate crime yet. I was born and raised in the South but the most racist, hateful place I've ever lived was a horrible year in Iowa. I don't think all of Iowa is bad though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 According to the Coahoma County Sheriff's office (via Reuters), "The death of McMillian was not being investigated as a hate crime." Also, "The death is not considered politically motivated." A person driving his SUV had a head-on collision with another vehicle, but MacMillian was not with the driver and his whereabouts were not known at the time of the accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 According to the Coahoma County Sheriff's office (via Reuters), "The death of McMillian was not being investigated as a hate crime." Also, "The death is not considered politically motivated." This is good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2hunangirls Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Black, gay men aren't killed in any other state? Or if they are, it's for legitimate reasons? I don't see how it happening in MS makes the whole state religious bigots, but when it happens in other states it's..... what? That's just crazy. We've had black government leaders for decades. It's not like the first person of color who got near a post was shot. Sure there are pockets of ignorance here, but I've seen pretty large pockets elsewhere too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisbeth Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Meh, percentage-wise deeply religious people aren't committing most murders over issues of bigotry or at all. Check the crimestats and think beyond that bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garddwr Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 However, in any extreme you will find individuals who have no problem using their religious( or political) beliefs as a basis for their horrific actions. Yes indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisbeth Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 They have a suspect. He is 22 and wrecked this mayoral candidate's SUV. We don't know yet, but could be a carjacking gone bad. Another candidate reported being robbed at gunpoint. The town is said to be a high crime area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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