elegantlion Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 These are the random words I will write in case you hover and don't want to read spoilers. I will add more filler here, blah, blah, blah. Dh was mad because Serenity was on as the same time as The Walking Dead. He's seen the movie, but forgot that part. Also he needs to rewatch the Firefly episodes we have on DVD, because I'm sure he's forgotten about watching them on TV a few years ago. He would switch back on commercials, so I had an hour of walkers and reavers, yummy. Anyway, how's the weather where you are? Sunny? Cold? Okay, this should be enough, you think? I don't read the comics because I don't want to know more than I do, know what I mean. What did you think of the episode? I almost bought the Governor's bull, almost. Darryl is awesome, but I was wondering if they were going to have a love triangle between Axel, Carol, and Darryl. Guess not, *sniff* I held my breath when Rick was up against the fence with the walker about to bite him. Darryl swooped in like Robin Hood. Merle, at least may earn himself a private cell for helping out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowTail Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I was hoping that Rick would get eaten, LoL. I am so tired of his insanity. He is going to get them all killed. He didn't even think twice about opening both gates and leaving them open. Zombie bomb! That was funny, and horrible. Now Rick, Darryl, adn Merle seem trapped outside the fence, and the others are trapped on the inside. Also, their perimeter is now down. What should they do? Also, how did the "tombs" fill back up? I thought they had the prison, at least their block secured? I know the back side of the prison is open, but it seriously did not look as if zombies could or even would wander into that rubble. And I thought they at least had their block and the one beyond it cleared out and locked down, so nothing could get in? Glenn and Maggie - grrr. I wish they could get it together. They don't have time to wallow in feelings right now. Poor Axel - I was loving him this episode, and he made Carol feel good about herself. Ghost/hallucination Lori needs to move along. I thought poor Herschel was a goner. Darryl and Merle - I was glad Darryl saved those people. I thought they should join them at the prison, but language barrier +another baby seemed like a bad idea maybe. I wonder where they thought they were going? The Governor needs to be shot, soon. What an excellent, intense episode. It definitely left me desperate for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaney Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It is beginning to wear on me. So sick of the insanity crap, the governor, Andrea grates my nerves. Exactly how long does it take for a zombie to die on its own anyway? I thought that they could die from lack of food but it took a REALLLY long time. They need to lead them all into burning pits and set traps or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Rick is one of my favorites, so I don't want him to get bitten. However, I think he's the one that should be abdicating. Even Glenn acknowledged since Darryl was gone there was no one else to lead. Rick needs some time out and let Darryl take over. Now that he's stood up to Merle, Merle can be his right hand man now. I thought Herschel was gone too. I have unresolved feelings about him from season 2, so I wouldn't have minded so much. And who thinks Maggie is pregnant? I also realized the guy that plays Milton was on Rubicon, which was a decent show that only lasted one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 It is beginning to wear on me. So sick of the insanity crap, the governor, Andrea grates my nerves. Exactly how long does it take for a zombie to die on its own anyway? I thought that they could die from lack of food but it took a REALLLY long time. They need to lead them all into burning pits and set traps or something. I know they said they're making the zombies look more decayed this year. I don't know, the guy that was hanging in the tree (season 2?) was still kicking and he hadn't eaten anything. The insanity part is interesting to me, makes it more philosophical (how do you lead through that? Was he a good leader ever or just the one with experience?) Andrea needs to shoot the governor and take over. Carl gets kind of ignored, and makes me wonder what kind of conflict that will lead to once Rick gets his stuff together and tries to be a father again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I love Rick and I hope nothing happens to me. That man woke from a coma we have no idea if his "insanity" is a side effect. He was never checked by a doc or anything for that! I like seeing this because it is helping to make it more real. There are zombies attacking but, life goes on. Alot of people go a bit mental after loved ones dieing. These people no longer have time to grieve loss, time to be human, time to celebrate, in all honesty under that type of stress I would go mental as well. So this just makes it more real in my opinion. As far as what can they do now that the fences are down? Well they better start fixing and taking out those walkers just like they did before. Daryl is back he can help!! I think he would happily because right now he knows what is right what is wrong and that sometimes a family is not just blood. I was scared that Hershel was gone too. Glenn is right they can't run. I was sorry to see Axel killed my greatest worry was he was going to come back right there next to Carol but then it dawned on me he was shot in the head so that wasn't gonna happen. The whole Maggies Glenn thing is just a reminder that it is not just about the walkers, they are still human they still have to deal with things. I feel bad Caryl is getting ignored but again this is a very horrifying situation and no one is prepared for it. I cannot wait till next week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaney Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I know they said they're making the zombies look more decayed this year. I don't know, the guy that was hanging in the tree (season 2?) was still kicking and he hadn't eaten anything. The insanity part is interesting to me, makes it more philosophical (how do you lead through that? Was he a good leader ever or just the one with experience?) Andrea needs to shoot the governor and take over. Carl gets kind of ignored, and makes me wonder what kind of conflict that will lead to once Rick gets his stuff together and tries to be a father again. Well he had turned after hanging himself so no clue. But really how long has even passed? It's hard to tell but at some point the normal population should start to come back, right? They just have to be sure they don't let natural deaths start another outbreak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Well he had turned after hanging himself so no clue. But really how long has even passed? It's hard to tell but at some point the normal population should start to come back, right? They just have to be sure they don't let natural deaths start another outbreak. No one knew right at the start that the dead will turn so I am sure that helped spread the outbreak a whole lot. This is so wide spread I don't see stopping it. Think of all the people in the world that have been infected, there is very few left now that are OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Rick, can you just be insane and not be so damn sweaty for crying out loud? Daryl, I love you. Glenn and Maggie, wth? I had to ask hubby why they are upset with each other? Seems like the writers are stretching a bit for some artificial, unnecessary drama between them. You make sacrifices when you love someone, move on. Governor....I get annoyed when they try to make people SO evil. It's too much. Shoot em and move on with that one too. Oops, gotta run and be a mommy now. Back later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Well he had turned after hanging himself so no clue. But really how long has even passed? It's hard to tell but at some point the normal population should start to come back, right? They just have to be sure they don't let natural deaths start another outbreak. The timeline would have to be about a year or less, depending upon how long Rick was by himself at the beginning. Which episode did they say 'lil a$$ kicker was about a week old? There was that confusion on whose baby it was. I figure the walkers will last as long as AMC wants them to. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
readinmom Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Watching the characterization of Rick with each episode is awesome. Losing Axel is a loss because he knows the blueprint of the prison. I've never seen so many people with that many rounds of ammo miss their targets. Creepy that the Governor was not really shooting at anything, just to scare them. (except for Axel) Love the fact that Darryl and Merle show up at just the right time. The Governor has to deal with a lot of vengeful people now, but maybe that's what he wants. I hope this season stays somewhat true to the books. They have promised more intense walker scenes due to fan complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterflymommy Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It was better than the last episode (mid season premiere) but I'm still finding andrea's acting painfully bad, the governor a one dimensional and utterly boring villain, and the plot flat. I like daryl and rick, but the rick-is-going-crazy-and-seeing-things story line is incredibly lame. I also like the kid. I was so worried they were going to feed the hispanic family to the zombies-- hollywood loves disposable hispanics! I don't know why they didn't translate what they were saying. That was odd. In case anyone is curious the guy said "I don't understand you" and "We don't have anything to steal." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 I've never seen so many people with that many rounds of ammo miss their targets. No doubt!!! The man is standing in a field (at least the grass wasn't mowed this time) and you have how many people shooting at him? People that can shoot a walker point blank between the eyes at a distance, but can't stop a human. I think they are trying to show us it's summer, as everyone was sweaty by the end of the episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinlunachick Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Watching the characterization of Rick with each episode is awesome. Losing Axel is a loss because he knows the blueprint of the prison. I've never seen so many people with that many rounds of ammo miss their targets. Creepy that the Governor was not really shooting at anything, just to scare them. (except for Axel) Love the fact that Darryl and Merle show up at just the right time. The Governor has to deal with a lot of vengeful people now, but maybe that's what he wants. I hope this season stays somewhat true to the books. They have promised more intense walker scenes due to fan complaints. Ever seen Star Wars? ;) I'm sick of Rick, and both dh and I get frustrated that none of the characters think like a gamer (ie, trapping the zombies in burning pits, cleaning out the prison completely and securing it, etc). Where does all this gasoline for their vehicles come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowTail Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I've never seen so many people with that many rounds of ammo miss their targets. I told my husband, "They always hit their zombie targets dead on in the middle fo the forehead, but they are all empyting their guns of ammo and hitting nothing. What the heck?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateReignRemix Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Ever think the governor wasn't trying overly hard to hit anything? It is all a set up. Don't trust Merle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Maggie needs to get over it. Sheesh. She and Rick are the most annoying characters to me right now. (I don't want to be insensitive to female abuse victims, but for crying out loud there isn't time to pout in the zombie apocalypse.) Do you all watch Talking Dead after the show? I love how the host said that the truck drove right in and pooped out zombies. LOL!! That was a pretty good tactical maneuver, IMO! I think it's time for the group to get their act together and really fortify the prison or just get out already. I'm getting tired of the scenery, quite honestly! I'm so anxious to see what happens with Andrea. I have NOT liked her much since Woodbury, but I think she'll come through in a big way and redeem herself. I hope that Michonne becomes more a part of the group, but having a dh who tells me "what the comic did..." all the time drives me batty and makes me wonder what will happen with her! LOL Two things about this new world they've created that I've been wondering. I know it's a very small part to *show*, but how on earth are they getting clean water?? Those little things irk me sometimes! lol The other thing I'm curious about is the longevity (not lifespan, I guess? lol) of the zombies. In 28 Days Later they all "starve" and I wonder if there will be some development in the science of zombies in this show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 In 28 Days Later they all "starve" and I wonder if there will be some development in the science of zombies in this show. But they come back for 28 Weeks Later. :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Carl gets kind of ignored, and makes me wonder what kind of conflict that will lead to once Rick gets his stuff together and tries to be a father again. And wtf was with sending him into the tombs (with Glenn, I think?) to check things out? The kid is what, eleven? I would like to say that if Lori was still alive she'd have freaked out, but she didn't even know where the poor kid was half the time when she was alive, so I doubt she would have noticed. Reminds me of this meme that came out some time ago: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I got the impression that since the zombies are already mostly dead they can't starve. The only thing that kills them is to have the brain stem severed (or something?). Back to Maggie and Glenn, I didn't mean to sound insensitive, it's just that they both suffered and would gladly do it again for each other so stop being mad at the person for loving you. As for practicalities, in the beginning they would show them siphoning gas, and at the farm they had to make sure they had a clean well for water so I think they just figure they've already addressed those things. ChocolateReign, good point on Merle. I'll never trust that guy. As for Andrea, I do think she will come through, but that will probably bug me because I can't handle women who make such poor choices in men (crazy Shane was bad enough, now crazy governor too!) Poor Carl is right. Did you see the preview for the next episode and him saying to Rick that he thinks Rick should step down? Ooh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Carl is technically about 25 maturity wise, after all he's been through. I hope he doesn't bite off more than he can chew (no pun intended) at some point. Pre-teen boys think they are invincible anyway. I can see him turning against everyone, especially Rick because he's not holding it together. I think Daryl needs to father him, because I don't think Rick can get past having to raise his son in that environment. If he doesn't, it would be easy for Merle to manipulate Carl and turn him against everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 The other thing, what was Maggie's sister doing telling her how to hold a bottle? Hasn't Maggie ever fed a baby before? She strikes me as the type that would have been a babysitter and fed a baby animal even. Her father was a vet, probably large animal. She should know how to fed a bottle to a baby. Either that line was stupid or Maggie is pregnant and she doesn't want to face everything they went through with Lori. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 But they come back for 28 Weeks Later. :w00t: LOL!! True! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Can I just say how delighted I am that there are other Walking Dead fanladies? And that means I am in mighty fine company. Fanlady that I am the Governor has to go. In a bad way. A chompy way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
readinmom Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Can I just say how delighted I am that there are other Walking Dead fanladies? And that means I am in mighty fine company. Fanlady that I am the Governor has to go. In a bad way. A chompy way. :hurray: I agree. Some of my students watch it, and ds and I have definitely hooked some people, including dh who hates this kind of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Can I just say how delighted I am that there are other Walking Dead fanladies? And that means I am in mighty fine company. Fanlady that I am the Governor has to go. In a bad way. A chompy way. me too. Dh is not into it and ds doesn't want to walk until he catches up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Ever seen Star Wars? ;) I'm sick of Rick, and both dh and I get frustrated that none of the characters think like a gamer (ie, trapping the zombies in burning pits, cleaning out the prison completely and securing it, etc). Where does all this gasoline for their vehicles come from? We've been thinking the same thing in our house. Also, where are they getting all those bullets? The vehicles seem to always be different so I could see them just finding a new one when the gas in another runs out. There are vehicles all along the side of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 We've been thinking the same thing in our house. Also, where are they getting all those bullets? The vehicles seem to always be different so I could see them just finding a new one when the gas in another runs out. There are vehicles all along the side of the road. Probably took 'em off all those doomsday preppers that got bit trying to haul all their crap to their bunkers. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Mom Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 This is what I wrote on my Facebook page last night: 1. Andrea is getting on my nerves. Pick a side already. 2. Rick...why you ackin' so cra-cra? 3. DARYL'S BACK!!!! so is merle. 4. I hate the governor. 5. The show isn't long enough. I have to wait another 7 days for my fix. As a sidenote, we were watching Stephen King's, The Mist, the other day and were surprised to see both Andrea AND Dale acting in that movie. Made me realize how much I miss Dale on TWD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faiths13 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 So glad to see other ladies who love the show! love the insight - pretty much everything I was thinking last night! I hate waiting 7 days to get my fix too. Last weeks episode was a bit of a disappointment to me, but this weeks rocked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 As a sidenote, we were watching Stephen King's, The Mist, the other day and were surprised to see both Andrea AND Dale acting in that movie. Made me realize how much I miss Dale on TWD. Laurie Holden (Andrea) is in a lot of Frank Darabont's stuff. Her and Dale were also in The Majestic together. The woman who plays Carol was in The Mist too- did you see her? She's the one with kids at home that wants someone to walk her back to her house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stayseeliz Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 We are totally obsessed.I think Maggie might think she's pregnant but I don't think she will be. I think the Lori stuff is boring. That whole phone thing was one of the creepiest things I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 So glad to see other ladies who love the show! love the insight - pretty much everything I was thinking last night! I hate waiting 7 days to get my fix too. Last weeks episode was a bit of a disappointment to me, but this weeks rocked! I watched the first few seasons on Netflix a couple at a time when my ds turned me on to the show. Now waiting a week between shows is annoying. I don't like the Glenn/Maggie thing....can't figure out why they are mad at each other since they did what they had to do because they love each other so there should be support instead of anger. I love Darryl but wish Merle would get eaten. I want Darryl to stay away from Carol because anyone near her seems to get killed. The Rick going crazy thing is really annoying. The man has two kids so he should be taking care of them. I can't figure out why he never wants anyone to join their group. What? If they die where he can't see them, it's ok? Besides he saw how many people are in the Governor's camp and should know the more they have on their side, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinlunachick Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 We've been thinking the same thing in our house. Also, where are they getting all those bullets? The vehicles seem to always be different so I could see them just finding a new one when the gas in another runs out. There are vehicles all along the side of the road. The problem with them just finding vehicles on the side of the road is that they've been in the same area for a LONG time now, right? Plus, the Governor has presumably been sending his people out on scavenging patrols, and they are well within his range. So, why would there be so many cars just sitting around with both fuel AND keys all handy-dandy like? Eh, in the end, it's probably like the bathrooms on Star Trek. We're just supposed to accept that it's possible and move on. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 The problem with them just finding vehicles on the side of the road is that they've been in the same area for a LONG time now, right? Plus, the Governor has presumably been sending his people out on scavenging patrols, and they are well within his range. So, why would there be so many cars just sitting around with both fuel AND keys all handy-dandy like? Eh, in the end, it's probably like the bathrooms on Star Trek. We're just supposed to accept that it's possible and move on. ;) Mainly so you can enter a new contest to win the car they drive this week. :driving: Or is that one over now? I dislike the branding of TV shows. Brought to you by .___________, that's annoying. I know it's also how they pay the bills to keep the show on, so I try to disconnect that part while watching. Dh was talking about that on a Burn Notice episode. Jesse was driving a Porsche and Fiona was driving a Hyundai. Dh wondered why the difference, I reminded him that Hyundai had sponsored part of that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterflymommy Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 You know what would be great? To get rid of the governor and bring in giancarlo esposito as the new villain. He was shakespearean in breaking bad, as the villain you loved to hate. The whole woodbury plot lines are so boring and implausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 The whole woodbury plot lines are so boring and implausible. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff about it that bugs me. Rick's crew can just barely manage to keep walkers out of their heavily-fortified prison, but Woodbury is one hundred percent zombie-free with some plywood and fencing? And why do no other groups of humans ever attack Woodbury? They aren't exactly heavily armed most of the time, and there has to be a hundred weak spots where you could sneak into town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Yeah, there's a lot of stuff about it that bugs me. Rick's crew can just barely manage to keep walkers out of their heavily-fortified prison, but Woodbury is one hundred percent zombie-free with some plywood and fencing? And why do no other groups of humans ever attack Woodbury? They aren't exactly heavily armed most of the time, and there has to be a hundred weak spots where you could sneak into town. I think Woodbury is a representation of normalcy in the midst of chaos. I take it in a more abstract manner and assume those details are not part of the "story" of Woodbury. Kind of the question of it you can recapture Americana after an apocalypse - even the name is iconic America. Will it be warped and twisted like having zombie fights? Or will it be led by an opportunistic tyrant and people not care because their lives appear to be normal. I'm sure there are a few nice philosophical discussions along those lines. Are the citizen of Woodbury really normal? Does being normal mean ignoring or not exploring the character of who is leading you? Contrast that with Rick (crazy-man-leader) who strives to stick to his ideals even in the chaos. Right now his people are in prison with their high ideals. I don't think the prison is simply a nice setting, it's a statement. Where would you choose to live if you knew the truth about the governor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think Woodbury is a representation of normalcy in the midst of chaos. I take it in a more abstract manner and assume those details are not part of the "story" of Woodbury. Kind of the question of it you can recapture Americana after an apocalypse - even the name is iconic America. Will it be warped and twisted like having zombie fights? Or will it be led by an opportunistic tyrant and people not care because their lives appear to be normal. I'm sure there are a few nice philosophical discussions along those lines. Are the citizen of Woodbury really normal? Does being normal mean ignoring or not exploring the character of who is leading you? Contrast that with Rick (crazy-man-leader) who strives to stick to his ideals even in the chaos. Right now his people are in prison with their high ideals. I don't think the prison is simply a nice setting, it's a statement. Where would you choose to live if you knew the truth about the governor? Oh, I'd live in Woodbury in a heartbeat. I have a four-year-old. I'm not a moron. ;) It would eat at me every day though, if I had any idea what was really going on, and we'd find a way to be sick whenever zombie-pit-fight night rolled around. It does make you realize how well-done the show and comic are, when you consider the intricacy of the philosophical undercurrents. People are probably writing doctoral theses on it all. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Mom Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 What's frustrating, as an avid reader of the comics, is that there is so much more to Woodbury and The Governor than what the show has portrayed. Beautiful evil, or high-moral, zombie-infested, ground? I've read many interviews with Robert Kirkman regarding this very topic, and Elegantlon is absolutely correct in her post. That is exactly what Kirkman is doing by portraying the two camps side by side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 What's frustrating, as an avid reader of the comics, is that there is so much more to Woodbury and The Governor than what the show has portrayed. Beautiful evil, or high-moral, zombie-infested, ground? I've read many interviews with Robert Kirkman regarding this very topic, and Elegantlon is absolutely correct in her post. That is exactly what Kirkman is doing by portraying the two camps side by side. I'm glad to hear that. Actually, this is the first time I've been right about anything today (been one of those days). :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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