faiths13 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Is it possible to do the My Fathers World curric without the Bible work? Would it work fine or is it better to get a secular curric? Quote
dbmamaz Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 took me some work to find the abbreviation. My Father's World. I know nothing about them, but one caution - often world view really changes the way history is presented. This is imo the basis for some of the current conflicts - was this nation founded as a christian nation, or founded on freedom of religious choice, including the choice to be an athiest? which history you select will determine how that question is answered. So depending on the curriculum, just leaving out the bible section often will not make something secular. Quote
faiths13 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Posted January 29, 2013 Yes that is a good point (and I modified post to help with abbreviation, lol). I did start thinking about that after I posted. Im trying to look at the sight and Im a little confused about how history is. Im looking for 1st grade. It looks like it is just Bible? Not sure... Quote
SilverMoon Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) . Edited July 12, 2022 by SilverMoon Quote
mommaduck Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 We do it without Bible, because they are doctrinally different than we are. Quote
dbmamaz Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 fwiw, schools dont do a lot of history in 1st grade. My 1st grade history plan was to get really good historical picture books out of the library and read them. that was it lol Quote
Amy M Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 The older grades 2-8 sets wouldn't be worth much if you wanted strictly secular. The large majority of the spines they line up the pages for are made by Christian publishers. I have no experience with the K stuff though. They have a forum on their website. You could ask for help there if you don't get good answers here. Story of the World is their major spine for years 2-4 of the history cycle. Would you consider SOTW Christian? Also, two of the years, they schedule a Genevieve Foster book. Those aren't considered Christian. However, for Creation to the Greeks there is a lot of Bible history integrated. I don't think you could make it secular. First grade also doesn't seem like it could be secularized. Quote
Samiam Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 We did MFW mostly secular, for Adventures and ECC. Skipped the actual bible reading, left out in studies that said "God Made this", ignored the book that was converting others. Loved MFW! We dd read the missionary stories in ECC, as they are great adventures and did have to do with culture... All about perspective. That being said, we left MFW when it came time for Creation to Greeks, as they use Steeams of Civilization as te main spine...a high school level book for elementary years....don't get that thought process. Plus I mean, it's talking CREATION, and I do think that historical era is deep on religion and becomes harder to separate personal beliefs if the curriculum is Christian. Quote
SilverMoon Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) On 1/29/2013 at 6:39 AM, Amy Meyers said: Edited July 12, 2022 by SilverMoon Quote
butterflymommy Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 For the geography year almost every book is Christian, including the science textbook. It would take a lot of work to secularize MFW. Maybe the other years are different-- I am only familiar with K and ECC. Quote
Samiam Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 For the geography year almost every book is Christian, including the science textbook. It would take a lot of work to secularize MFW. Maybe the other years are different-- I am only familiar with K and ECC. Eh, we switched the science out, easy enough to do, the ECC science tends to get mediocre reviews anyhow, and kinda weak, so that was easy enough to overcome. And not sure how it could be said that almost every book is Christian, when YOU pick what is in the book basket. Just don't choose Christian books, easy enough. The missionary books were no doubt Christian but still interesting and and adventurous, and if taken as a biography, that IS the story of the person, no different than reading a story about Ghandi, doesn't mean I have to have his religious beliefs. Quote
alisoncooks Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Yes that is a good point (and I modified post to help with abbreviation, lol). I did start thinking about that after I posted. Im trying to look at the sight and Im a little confused about how history is. Im looking for 1st grade. It looks like it is just Bible? Not sure... I don't think you'd get much of a curriculum if you took the Bible out of MFW 1st. All of the reading/writing/copywork is from the Bible (Proverbs, I believe, plus their Bible reader.) According to their site: Using a thematic approach, Bible history from Genesis to Revelation is the focus of this learning adventure. Phonics lessons develop the needed skills to read Bible stories from our Bible Reader. Students retell (narrate) the Bible story and create a lovely keepsake Bible Notebook in which they summarize and illustrate Bible stories. Weekly memory verses selected from Proverbs help strengthen handwriting skills as well as Biblical character. I personally think MFW is somewhat weak in the Science area (though some disagree) and it's likely tied to Bible concepts (Kindergarten was, anyways). And MFW 1st doesn't do a "formal" math program, just a math workbook. Anyway, just my thoughts.... I'd probably go another route if I didn't do the Bible aspects. (Funny enough, I wanted to do JUST their Bible reader/notebook, LOL.... we have our own science/math/phonics. :p) Quote
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