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About the same in terms of "reading level" but Hakim's prose is awkward, patronizing, and badly in need of editing while the Colliers' literacy style is praiseworthy.

 

Bill

 

:lol: and :iagree:

 

I personally find the Hakim books practically unreadable. I'm not in love with Collier either, but it is much better written, IMO.

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About the same in terms of "reading level" but Hakim's prose is awkward, patronizing, and badly in need of editing while the Colliers' literacy style is praiseworthy.

 

Bill

 

I always find it interesting how you phrase your opinions. :lol:

:lol: and :iagree:

 

I personally find the Hakim books practically unreadable. I'm not in love with Collier either, but it is much better written, IMO.

 

Aw, look what the addition of the word "personally" can do! :tongue_smilie:

 

I personally find Hakim's casual style personable and engaging. The books were hard for me to put down (and I enjoy the audio version even more). On the other hand, I had a hard time with the Collier books, which I found very dry. They didn't keep my interest.

 

Thanks. DS went to the library and read through both. He said he preferred the Collier books, and I thought I would just double check before he got too far.

 

Danielle

 

I agree that they are about the same reading level. It's wonderful that your son could read through both to pick the one he prefers.

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I always find it interesting how you phrase your opinions. :lol:

 

 

Aw, look what the addition of the word "personally" can do! :tongue_smilie:

 

I personally find Hakim's casual style personable and engaging. The books were hard for me to put down (and I enjoy the audio version even more). On the other hand, I had a hard time with the Collier books, which I found very dry. They didn't keep my interest.

 

 

 

I agree that they are about the same reading level. It's wonderful that your son could read through both to pick the one he prefers.

 

The bold was our experience too - I thought the books were dry, and not sufficiently engaging for my (then) 9 yo - I noticed her attention wandering, and I don't think it really had anything to do with reading level. It was just very dry. I liked that Collier focuses on big ideas, rather than trying to hit every single detail, I think kids (especially) have a hard time differentiating what is important/interesting/relevant from what isn't, so I really hate textbooks that try to include everything.

 

Maybe the issue was that at early 9, she wasn't really able to grapple with the big ideas. I've seen a big increase in her ability and interest to engage on a more abstract level just in the last few months. So for a slightly older/more mature student, Collier might work well.

 

Although *I* did find it dry . . . ;)

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I always find it interesting how you phrase your opinions. :lol:

 

 

Aw, look what the addition of the word "personally" can do! :tongue_smilie:

 

I personally find Hakim's casual style personable and engaging. The books were hard for me to put down (and I enjoy the audio version even more). On the other hand, I had a hard time with the Collier books, which I found very dry. They didn't keep my interest.

 

 

 

Personally, I find that adding "personally", IMO, or IMHO is fairly gratuitous I mean who elses opinion would it be? :lol:

 

Of course that is just my personal opinion, IMO, personally speaking.

 

Bill

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Personally, I find that adding "personally", IMO, or IMHO is fairly gratuitous I mean who elses opinion would it be? :lol:

 

Of course that is just my personal opinion, IMO, personally speaking.

 

Bill

 

 

Actually, in this particular case, my use of "personally" was not intended to illustrate my profound humility ;) but rather to indicate that I was speaking about my own experience in reading the books, not dd's experience with them! :D

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Actually, in this particular case, my use of "personally" was not intended to illustrate my profound humility ;) but rather to indicate that I was speaking about my own experience in reading the books, not dd's experience with them! :D

 

Personally, I wasn't confused about that :D

 

On a serious note, people have different judgements. Reading Hakim (as much as I would like to like her work) makes me sea-sick, and she is one of those few authors who makes me want to edit her for stylistic reasons as I go. For me the Colliers brother are pitch-perfect.

 

Bill

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Personally, I wasn't confused about that :D

 

On a serious note, people have different judgements. Reading Hakim (as much as I would like to like her work) makes me sea-sick, and she is one of those few authors who makes me want to edit her for stylistic reasons as I go. For me the Colliers brother are pitch-perfect.

 

Bill

 

 

Sea-sick is the perfect description! I always think "dizzy" but seasick is even better. I may quote you on that. ;)

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