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Mistakes happen. There is a term for it, it is "the fog of war." anytime we put people in harms mistakes happen. We lose people to so-called "friendly-fire," or we build barracks in indefensible positions. It does not ease the loss of loved ones to know tragic deaths happen due to mistakes.

 

Bill

 

I agree that things happen. It's the blasted super long cover up that bugs the bejeebers out of me and I wouldn't care which political party was doing it. It angers me considerably.

 

Preventing this? Unlikely. "Fog of War" in stating what happened for a few hours? Probable considering what was going on. For days? Just plain WRONG.

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I think the biggest issue is the decisions made regarding security before the event and the real-time reaction during the event. That is very interesting and should be covered by all news outlets. What is to prevent the same thing from happening at every other embassy around the world? American security depends on this being taken seriously by the US government. Americans of all political leanings want security.

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1) The timeline in the factcheck link previously posted does a lot of damage to the "fog of war" argument.

 

2) Wondering how the US' insistence that we're not a terrorist target will impact future events and relations.

 

3) I'm glad the Libyan government is taking this seriously.

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So is the video guy still in jail?

 

Yup. He's officially there because he was restricted from using the Internet due to a prior conviction for fraud. His hearing is scheduled for three days after the election.

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Well, imo, any news network, liberal or conservative, that frames the news the way their viewers want it- and I think we can both agree that Fox and MSNBC fit that category- isn't exactly going to be a reliable news source if someone is looking for more facts and less spin.

 

And none of them are unbiased, but the BBC is certainly less biased than many.

 

:iagree: Although there may be a kernel of truth somewhere in what they report, I don't trust either Fox or MSNBC without verifying the reports from an independent, nonpartisan source.

 

Does BBC have a partisan stake in the outcome of our upcoming elections?

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Right. Some (many) do not understand the freedom Americans have to publish deeply insulting material—and might fail to appreciate the arguments in favor of such things. Others are more than happy to exploit things like this video for their own purposes.

 

Unfortunately our society is also tearing at the seams due to the antics of those who purposefully spread paranoia, hatred, and misinformation and try to create anger in our country in a very similar way to what hate-mongers are doing in the Middle East. It is a shame.

 

Bill

 

:iagree: Great assessment, Bill. 100% spot on.

 

I do wonder if the video incitement was started at that particular time to act as a backdrop or diversion for the small group of premeditated attackers.

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:iagree: Great assessment, Bill. 100% spot on.

 

I do wonder if the video incitement was started at that particular time to act as a backdrop or diversion for the small group of premeditated attackers.

 

I wonder, too, considering that the video was originally in English and a translated version was sent to Egyptian journalists just a few days before 9/11.

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Yup. He's officially there because he was restricted from using the Internet due to a prior conviction for fraud. His hearing is scheduled for three days after the election.

 

I am pretty sure that sometimes people are taken into custody to protect them. I'm not say that is the case in this instance.

 

It is also possible that our government is using the legal means available to them to take him into custody so that it looks good to the offended people. I'm not putting a value judgement on that, but it would make foreign-policy sense to me if I were in the position of making decisions in this situation.

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