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This year I am trying to use Classicaal Conversations as the heart of my curriculum for my 2 boys, but I am having difficulty scheduling it all for a complete school day. Will anyone or everyone help me? What do you do or will you send me or post your schedule? What do you do to get greater depth for science? Thanks in advance.

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I don't have much to share as my oldest is in Challenge A and I am tutoring it, so I am underwater with that endeavor. But, in the past I have enhanced CC a lot with Half a Hundred Acre Wood's blog resources. Here's the link. If you poke around there a while you will find her schedule and a bunch about what she does to enhance all the subjects.

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This year I am trying to use Classicaal Conversations as the heart of my curriculum for my 2 boys, but I am having difficulty scheduling it all for a complete school day. Will anyone or everyone help me? What do you do or will you send me or post your schedule? What do you do to get greater depth for science? Thanks in advance.

 

 

For science I use the Apologia Science that matched one of he semesters. This year we are doing Botony. Last year we did human anatomy. We do the corresponding Journey through learning lap book.

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I am a Foundations director and Essentials tutor in my local community. I have typed up our "typical day at home" on my blog. I talk about the subjects we do at home, how to plan your schedule at home, how long we spend on each subject, what I use for each subject, and what we do during our off-weeks of Classical Conversations.

 

In short....we spend lots of time reading the backs of all the science and timeline cards put out by CC. We watch lots of videos related to the timeline, history sentence, or science topic. (links on pinterest) We read lots of books related to the timeline, history, or science topic. When I have extra time, (which I rarely do when CC is in session, so this part gets put off until the off-weeks), I do Story of the World and Apologia Land Animals. When CC is in session, the CC cards, pinterest links, and library books are more than enough to keeps up busy!

 

Here is the link to my post "How to Do Classical Conversations at Home." : http://teachingboys.net/2012/08/21/how-to-do-classical-conversations-at-home/

 

Also, you might want to check out my pinterest boards for help. I have organized all of my pinterest boards by CC week. It should help you with planning.

 

http://pinterest.com/wearejenandkev/

 

 

 

Hope that helps!

 

Jennifer

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I also blog about our CC journey and here is the link to all posts related to CC. I was blogging about my weekly plans, but the botany plans have all been lumped into one post now and I am working on a second post of botany experiments we have done or will do. For history, we are reading through Story of the World Volume 1, but I have friends who own all 4 volumes and read the section pertaining to the history sentence for the week.

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I LOVE answering this question, so this will be LONG.

 

First we use the resources CC recommends or resources closely related. Here is a list and how it relates if it is something they don't sell themselves.

 

Math- Saxon, summer supplements like Five Minute Facts written by same author who wrote Spelling Plus and Ray's Arithmetic mentioned here and there in CC things

 

English- Logic of English in grades 2 and 3 (very close to WRTR in philosophy), Saxon Phonics in preschool-1st (Orton- Gillingham based which WRTR was built off of with the great incremental development and continual review of Saxon), Essentials in 4th-6th; possibly Hake Grammar and Writing in summer to reinforce what they learned in Essentials w/ Saxon methods

 

Writing- Logic of English and WRTR for handwriting, Classically Cursive for copywork (recommended on one of their Leigh at Lunch audios), IEW for composition (and we'll use Pre-Scripts when it comes out).

 

Latin- Latin's Not So Tough

 

Greek- Hey Andrew (by same author as Latin program)

 

Reading- Bob Books and classics (will use CC suggestions when they start putting them in the book store)

 

History- Story of the World and Veritas Press in summer b/c we make CC's history the focus in the school year. We will make this more grade level focused than CC cycle focused just because the difficulty level varies book by book.

 

Science- Nancy Larson (Saxon methodology) for preschool-3rd and Apologia (which they use in Challenge) in 4th-6th based on topics from previous CC year in summer (see below), but we also make CC's science the focus in the school year. We also add in nature journaling some days.

 

Cycle 1- Botany and Geology/Earth Science (when it comes out)

Cycle 2- Astronomy and Zoology 3 (goes with Ecology)

Cycle 3- Anatomy and Physics/Chemistry (coming out very soon I think)

 

Memory Work- CC, catechism, poetry (IEW), and AWANA (which I think she's alluded to before but not by name)

 

Bible- Bible stories and Bible reading and discussion in school year, Veritas Press added in summer by grade level, plus AWANA as mentioned already.

 

Read alouds- Narnia, Little Britches, and booklist from Teaching the Classics and Thomas Jefferson Education, CC's booklist as time allows but classics are bigger priority.

 

There are a few other things that we do use like Building Thinking Skills, Character First, Veritas Press Literature guides, and McGuffey Readers, but most of these things I got the ideas from WTM or Teaching the Trivium. Character First is just our own family thing but it is memorizing so I think it is also classical in that way. The literature guides I like because they help me keep track of their comprehension and choose grade appropriate books and they have additional composition and copywork as well as fun projects and recipes the kids love (most of which we save for summer).

 

Here is how we make CC's history and science the focus of our school year.

 

For History and Fine Arts (one hour per day):

 

Day 1: I read the history highlights to them and they copy the history sentence and illustrate it. I read the back of one timeline card and they copy the title and dates, write one sentence narration per grade level, and illustrate it.

 

Days 2-4: Same as above but with 2 timeline cards per day.

 

Day 5: We do a packet of pages on the weekly fine arts topic from CC Connected or the guide and discuss it or do it together. During the orchestra unit we use Classical Music for Dummies for additional info and listening. We have lots of fine arts living books from Veritas Press as well as the recommended drawing books recommended in the guide.

 

You'd really be surprised how much history this is. I'd also add in videos and I pull out our History Encyclopedias to show them additional pictures and show them where in our home library there are more books on the topics if they are interested. They will redo these narrations year after year adding more and more each time so I really believe they will learn it well over time. They are making lots of connections between cards and cultures and things in the Bible and it is awesome to watch!

 

Science (half hour per day):

 

Day 1-2 (if there was more than one experiment): Go over the weekly experiment together using pages from CC Connected and the Janice Van Cleave book and discuss

 

Day 2-3 or 3-4 (depending on number of Acts and Facts cards that week adding in extension facts and scientist cards): Read the back of the card and discuss. Copy the front of the card and the question and answer of the week and illustrate the card. Also read Science Snippets.

 

Day 3, 4, or 5: Do one lesson together from Homeschool Curriculum Co. which is directly tied to CC's Science memory work, fleshing it out and tying in the Bible.....love it!

 

Any remaining days: nature journaling using resource associated with our state so specimens should be local

 

Again, we're reinforcing the information with these resources and adding in the Bible. We're spending some time just on learning to identify specimens (talked about in Dorothy Sayer's essay) and giving them the history of science at the same time by talking some about the scientists. I often also look up the scientists in a book called Men of Science, Men of God to find out more about their faith and how it influenced their work. They memorize the fronts of the science cards in order like they do the timeline and I have seen them pull the definitions on the front when asked about those people or topics or seeing it somewhere, even when they've been given a ton of extra info. What they latch onto is that little piece of memory work and I know the peg is there and their interest for and awareness of that topic is much higher because of that peg. Videos and living books on the shelf are always good for when they want to know more. Lyrical Life Science songs are fun to listen to and reinforce the vocabulary and It Couldn't Just Happen is a great read aloud!

 

All the notebooking they do alone and I don't try to make it perfect or correct it. I simply give them the basic requirements and it is theirs to choose what to put into it. That allows them to take ownership of the information and to enjoy it much more. The only part I do with them is the reading of the cards , experiment pages, highlights, and snippets and the discussions that come from them, which are so rich and I love them! And I also do the Homeschool Curriculum Co. lesson with them once a week. But really all the discussion and reading takes maybe half an hour total and the rest of the time they are notebooking so I am free to work with my younger ones that aren't ready for that yet.

 

We review the memory work each day together and then they each have their own binder to work individually or with me depending on their age. This allows them to hear and say/sing it as well as see and write it each day which I am finding totally adds to their retention. Once a week instead of the binders I test them orally or in writing for the older two. I don't count spelling yet but I may when they are older. This has also really aided in their retention. I got the tests also from CC Connected. I can share more detail about the binders if you want.

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As for our schedule, I have changed it a bunch of times and they don't always take the whole hour to finish assignments but the block of time is there which I think will serve us in the future too. So they get a break whenever they finish their subject early before the next subject starts.

 

6:30-7:30 Mom and kids dress

7:30-8:30 Breakfast and one load of laundry

8:30-9:30 Clean up bedrooms and bathrooms

9:30-10:30 Math with older two

10:30-11:30 Math with younger two, older two do logic, Latin, and Greek

11:30-12:30 English with older two

12:30-1:30 IEW with older two, then handwriting independently while I do phonics w/ preschooler

1:30-2:30 Lunch and one load of laundry, break for older kids, read to younger kids before naps

2:30-3:30 Oral reading and literature guides, naps for younger kids

3:30-5:00 Discuss History and Science with older ones and then do phonics with K'er while they notebook (free time when done)

5:00-6:30 Memory Work together than do binders (free time when done)

6:30-8:30 Make corrections, straighten school room, help oldest with therapy homework for her learning disability, make dinner, do a load of laundry, etc.....kids mostly free time other than dinner

8:30-10:30 family devotions, bedtime routines, read aloud to older kids

10:30-12:30 (or whenever I crash) Finish chores, computer, read, talk w/ hubby, sometimes TV show...MOM TIME

 

We have CC on Tuesday and that is also my son's clinic days for his cancer treatments. We don't do any other schoolwork those days. We don't do any schoolwork on Sundays either. But we do school the rest of the days of the week so we can plow through our school year and be done as close to when CC is over as possible taking as little time off for holidays and organizing/decluttering as possible. That way we have all summer to relax with the 3R's and just review and focus more on history, science, Bible, and literature related curriculum and fun projects as well as field trips and things like that. I find my motivation for the regular curriculum drops off sharply when CC stops for the year. And I just want to do the fun hands-on stuff whereas during the school year that fun hands-on stuff feels too messy and adds to my stress instead of helping because I have less time to make sure we're doing the most important stuff....the skill subjects.

 

Well, I hope this helps and sorry it was so long winded. It is just one of my passions now that we have finally found what works for our family and we are seeing so much fruit this way vs. the beginning of last year when we tried to do Apologia and Veritas Press during the year, all of which we ended up dropping. My life was simplified and they still learned a ton of history and science without all of that simply from read alouds and memory work!

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Really if you own the Acts and Facts Timeline and Science cards, the guide, a tin whistle, and the tutoring resources CC sells you can do all of it at home. The only thing you'd really be missing is the things you get from CC Connected, but they aren't must haves. I would highly recommend the Trivium Tables to you as well. They are excellent. If you look at some of these ladies' pinterest boards you'll have plenty of ideas for read alouds and projects if you want to do them. I would also highly recommend the science from Homeschool Curriculum Co. It is only $5 and it is so worth it! Also, the lapbooks from Wisdom and Righteousness are great and also very inexpensive. The notebooking my kids do is just into CC's sketch notebooks. It is nothing fancy. I made all the copywork free from worksheetworks.com using the guide. I really think that Foundations can be taught very well at home. The problem comes in when trying to do Essentials at home because you have to sign up to get a guide unless you can find one used. But some people chose to do Foundations at home and put their 4th-6th graders in Essentials only.

 

HTH!

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Wow!! Very thorough list!! Thanks for sharing!! I love seeing how other people do CC!

 

Jennifer

 

I LOVE answering this question, so this will be LONG.

 

First we use the resources CC recommends or resources closely related. Here is a list and how it relates if it is something they don't sell themselves.

 

Math- Saxon, summer supplements like Five Minute Facts written by same author who wrote Spelling Plus and Ray's Arithmetic mentioned here and there in CC things

 

English- Logic of English in grades 2 and 3 (very close to WRTR in philosophy), Saxon Phonics in preschool-1st (Orton- Gillingham based which WRTR was built off of with the great incremental development and continual review of Saxon), Essentials in 4th-6th; possibly Hake Grammar and Writing in summer to reinforce what they learned in Essentials w/ Saxon methods

 

Writing- Logic of English and WRTR for handwriting, Classically Cursive for copywork (recommended on one of their Leigh at Lunch audios), IEW for composition (and we'll use Pre-Scripts when it comes out).

 

Latin- Latin's Not So Tough

 

Greek- Hey Andrew (by same author as Latin program)

 

Reading- Bob Books and classics (will use CC suggestions when they start putting them in the book store)

 

History- Story of the World and Veritas Press in summer b/c we make CC's history the focus in the school year. We will make this more grade level focused than CC cycle focused just because the difficulty level varies book by book.

 

Science- Nancy Larson (Saxon methodology) for preschool-3rd and Apologia (which they use in Challenge) in 4th-6th based on topics from previous CC year in summer (see below), but we also make CC's science the focus in the school year. We also add in nature journaling some days.

 

Cycle 1- Botany and Geology/Earth Science (when it comes out)

Cycle 2- Astronomy and Zoology 3 (goes with Ecology)

Cycle 3- Anatomy and Physics/Chemistry (coming out very soon I think)

 

Memory Work- CC, catechism, poetry (IEW), and AWANA (which I think she's alluded to before but not by name)

 

Bible- Bible stories and Bible reading and discussion in school year, Veritas Press added in summer by grade level, plus AWANA as mentioned already.

 

Read alouds- Narnia, Little Britches, and booklist from Teaching the Classics and Thomas Jefferson Education, CC's booklist as time allows but classics are bigger priority.

 

There are a few other things that we do use like Building Thinking Skills, Character First, Veritas Press Literature guides, and McGuffey Readers, but most of these things I got the ideas from WTM or Teaching the Trivium. Character First is just our own family thing but it is memorizing so I think it is also classical in that way. The literature guides I like because they help me keep track of their comprehension and choose grade appropriate books and they have additional composition and copywork as well as fun projects and recipes the kids love (most of which we save for summer).

 

Here is how we make CC's history and science the focus of our school year.

 

For History and Fine Arts (one hour per day):

 

Day 1: I read the history highlights to them and they copy the history sentence and illustrate it. I read the back of one timeline card and they copy the title and dates, write one sentence narration per grade level, and illustrate it.

 

Days 2-4: Same as above but with 2 timeline cards per day.

 

Day 5: We do a packet of pages on the weekly fine arts topic from CC Connected or the guide and discuss it or do it together. During the orchestra unit we use Classical Music for Dummies for additional info and listening. We have lots of fine arts living books from Veritas Press as well as the recommended drawing books recommended in the guide.

 

You'd really be surprised how much history this is. I'd also add in videos and I pull out our History Encyclopedias to show them additional pictures and show them where in our home library there are more books on the topics if they are interested. They will redo these narrations year after year adding more and more each time so I really believe they will learn it well over time. They are making lots of connections between cards and cultures and things in the Bible and it is awesome to watch!

 

Science (half hour per day):

 

Day 1-2 (if there was more than one experiment): Go over the weekly experiment together using pages from CC Connected and the Janice Van Cleave book and discuss

 

Day 2-3 or 3-4 (depending on number of Acts and Facts cards that week adding in extension facts and scientist cards): Read the back of the card and discuss. Copy the front of the card and the question and answer of the week and illustrate the card. Also read Science Snippets.

 

Day 3, 4, or 5: Do one lesson together from Homeschool Curriculum Co. which is directly tied to CC's Science memory work, fleshing it out and tying in the Bible.....love it!

 

Any remaining days: nature journaling using resource associated with our state so specimens should be local

 

Again, we're reinforcing the information with these resources and adding in the Bible. We're spending some time just on learning to identify specimens (talked about in Dorothy Sayer's essay) and giving them the history of science at the same time by talking some about the scientists. I often also look up the scientists in a book called Men of Science, Men of God to find out more about their faith and how it influenced their work. They memorize the fronts of the science cards in order like they do the timeline and I have seen them pull the definitions on the front when asked about those people or topics or seeing it somewhere, even when they've been given a ton of extra info. What they latch onto is that little piece of memory work and I know the peg is there and their interest for and awareness of that topic is much higher because of that peg. Videos and living books on the shelf are always good for when they want to know more. Lyrical Life Science songs are fun to listen to and reinforce the vocabulary and It Couldn't Just Happen is a great read aloud!

 

All the notebooking they do alone and I don't try to make it perfect or correct it. I simply give them the basic requirements and it is theirs to choose what to put into it. That allows them to take ownership of the information and to enjoy it much more. The only part I do with them is the reading of the cards , experiment pages, highlights, and snippets and the discussions that come from them, which are so rich and I love them! And I also do the Homeschool Curriculum Co. lesson with them once a week. But really all the discussion and reading takes maybe half an hour total and the rest of the time they are notebooking so I am free to work with my younger ones that aren't ready for that yet.

 

We review the memory work each day together and then they each have their own binder to work individually or with me depending on their age. This allows them to hear and say/sing it as well as see and write it each day which I am finding totally adds to their retention. Once a week instead of the binders I test them orally or in writing for the older two. I don't count spelling yet but I may when they are older. This has also really aided in their retention. I got the tests also from CC Connected. I can share more detail about the binders if you want.

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