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Are the textbook and HIG the only non-consumable books in SM? I know the workbook is consumable but I'm considering getting the IP and/or CWP books.

 

Also, is the HIG everyone refers to the one produced by Sonlight? Are there different ones? My local homeschool store offers the Sonlight one but I thought I saw variations and I don't know how to choose between them.

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Are the textbook and HIG the only non-consumable books in SM? I know the workbook is consumable but I'm considering getting the IP and/or CWP books.

 

Also, is the HIG everyone refers to the one produced by Sonlight? Are there different ones? My local homeschool store offers the Sonlight one but I thought I saw variations and I don't know how to choose between them.

 

We consume the Textbooks. In fact we scrawl notes, solution strategies and answers all over the Textbook. It is my "teaching" opportunity, and marking it up helps our educational efforts. Not everyone writes in their textbooks, but it would be detrimental to our way of working to leave them pristine.

 

The HIGs most people use are produced by Singaporemath.com, not Sonlight. The HIGs tied to the Standards Edition are reputedly much better than the earlier ones produced for the US Edition.

 

Bill

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We do not write in the textbook. We write all over our sliding glass door instead. :D

 

CWP would be easy to use in a non-consumable manner. IP is probably easier consumed, like the workbook. Though I've used little enough of both that I can reuse them with future kids (we don't do all the problems, and we focus on the challenge ones). I'll definitely reuse textbooks with future kids. Practice and review problems are done on notebook paper to practice copying from a textbook. The main problems are done orally, or if we need to write something, it's written on the door. Workbook is done independently, so that gets written in as normal.

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Sonlight does carry the same HIG's as Singapore.com does.

We do not write in the textbooks, I just can not bring myself to deface books. The Intensive Practice, Workbook, and Challenging Word Problems books to do get written in here. Sometimes the problems get copied to paper because of space and my small children, but not enough for me to say that I can use them with both children. That would just be to much work.

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We used the texts as workbooks, where they weren't used for mental math, mostly because my DD is only now getting to the point where she can copy problems. There really weren't all that many that didn't have enough space to do the problem right there (Caveat-we were using the New Syllabus Primary Maths after SM 2B).

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We do not write in the Textbook or CWP. The CWP has 2-3 problems on each page so I have my ds8 write out his work in a notebook. When he was younger, he needed more room to write out his work anyway. Ds6 will do the same when he does CWP 1 here soon. We consume the workbooks and IP.

 

Sonlight is the publisher of HIGs for US Edition Levels 2-6. Singapore is the publisher of US level 1 and all the Standards Editions. You want the ones published by Singapore - they are much easier to follow.

 

Right, but you must get the HIG that matches your PM...US Ed. = Sonlight HIG. STD Ed. = Singapore HIG. You cannot mix-and-match. I've been happy using the US Ed. through 5A.

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Sonlight is the publisher of HIGs for US Edition Levels 2-6. Singapore is the publisher of US level 1 and all the Standards Editions. You want the ones published by Singapore - they are much easier to follow.

 

I stand corrected. I did not realize the Level 2 and beyond US Edition HIGs were published by Sonlight (I'd only seen the 1st Grade US Edition HIG).

 

The author of all these (Standards and US) is the same person. But almost everyone (including the author) says the Standards Edition HIGs are better.

 

Bill

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I stand corrected. I did not realize the Level 2 and beyond US Edition HIGs were published by Sonlight (I'd only seen the 1st Grade US Edition HIG).

 

The author of all these (Standards and US) is the same person. But almost everyone (including the author) says the Standards Edition HIGs are better.

 

Bill

 

I was quite confused, at first, as to why people were saying that the US edition HIGs were so bad. At the time I was using US Level 1, and I thought they were great. I emailed Singapore (it was the author, Jenny, who responded) and they informed me that Sonlight had originally published the US edition HIGs for levels 2-6, but didn't think one was needed for level 1. And yes, she did agree that the Standards HIGs were better.

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I was quite confused, at first, as to why people were saying that the US edition HIGs were so bad. At the time I was using US Level 1, and I thought they were great. I emailed Singapore and they informed me that Sonlight had originally published the US edition HIGs for levels 2-6, but didn't think one was needed for level 1.

 

If memory serves, I believe the author of the HIGs said the 1st Grade HIGs were the most similar across the two versions. I guess that is because the 1st Grade US HIG was written last (of that series)?

 

From my perspective the entry point is a critical time for the HIGs—and more broadly—teaching whole-parts math properly from the outset, as I suspect many fall back on teaching using the basic approach they learned in American schools without laying the groundwork expected using the Singapore Model.

 

Waiting until one does not understand how to teach the material (say like waiting until 3rd Grade) does not strike me as a good idea. Not to suggest you disagree, I just see the "it's only 1st Grade math" mentality expressed often, and think it is a very misguided belief.

 

In is important to lay an excellent foundation.

 

Bill

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If memory serves, I believe the author of the HIGs said the 1st Grade HIGs were the most similar across the two versions. I guess that is because the 1st Grade US HIG was written last (of that series)?

 

From my perspective the entry point is a critical time for the HIGs—and more broadly—teaching whole-parts math properly from the outset, as I suspect many fall back on teaching using the basic approach they learned in American schools without laying the groundwork expected using the Singapore Model.

 

Waiting until one does not understand how to teach the material (say like waiting until 3rd Grade) does not strike me as a good idea. Not to suggest you disagree, I just see the "it's only 1st Grade math" mentality expressed often, and think it is a very misguided belief.

 

In is important to lay an excellent foundation.

 

Bill

 

I haven't seen the Level 1 Standards HIGs, but Level 1 US is very similar to Level 2 Standards.

 

I agree with you, but just to clarify, it was Sonlight who didn't think the HIG was not needed for level 1 - not me. :001_smile:

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I haven't seen the Level 1 Standards HIGs, but Level 1 US is very similar to Level 2 Standards.

 

I agree with you, but just to clarify, it was Sonlight who didn't think the HIG was not needed for level 1 - not me. :001_smile:

 

Just for emphasis, I understand (as of this morning) that it was Sonlight and NOT YOU, that felt the HIGs were unnecessary for Level One. I disagree with Sonlight. My understanding is Jenny Hoerst, the author of the HIGs, wrote the Level One US Edition last, after finishing the 2-6 UE Edition HIGs, but before writing the SE HIGs.

 

I had wondered why she wrote the Level One US Edition HIGs last, now I know why. Thanks for helping inform me :001_smile:

 

Bill

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