newlifemom Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I have learned John 1 in Latin as In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum etc. In going over something today and rereading Carry on Mr. Bowditch, I see a different version apparently translated from the Greek by a guy named, Beza which reads In principio erat Sermo ille, et Sermo ille erat apud Deum Is one more correct than the other? Is the source of heated debates? When I see Sermo my very unenlightened mind thinks of word such as a sermon which does not make me think of Christ. Am I reading that correctly? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitilin Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 In googling around, I found this: http://books.google.com/books?id=fwiOL394f_QC&pg=PA267&lpg=PA267&dq=in+principio+erat+sermo+beza&source=bl&ots=-YlWE8wN33&sig=9FxoK1OYvQUeiq6sdbNBXFh5Ih4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=L4JzUJ-fK4Pc2QWx-IHYCA&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=in%20principio%20erat%20sermo%20beza&f=false And also this:http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4173446?uid=3739904&uid=2460338175&uid=2460337935&uid=2&uid=4&uid=83&uid=63&uid=3739256&sid=21101296136307 :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomen Nescio Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 The word being translated here is the Greek logos, which has a whole nest of meanings including the relatively ordinary ones expressed by verbum, meaning 'word', and sermō, meaning conversation or discourse. These words are perfectly fine to capture the ordinary sense of logos, though none of its broader philosophical import. I'm not a theologist, or an expert on the pre-Socratics, but the gist of it is that logos is a spark of intelligence that is the divinity of God which is shared with his creations -- i.e., what is meant by 'created in God's image'. Of course, that's just one traditional reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlifemom Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Thanks for the replies. I was too busy yesterday and earlier today to check. Interesting ideas I am seeing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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