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If You Were A Christian And Now You're Not...

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When I started reading all these posts, from HOMEschool mamas, I was simple shocked. I guess I live a pretty sheltered life, as I didn't realize there ARE witches??? How can someone be a witch? That is confusing to me. Also, I didn't realize there are people, who do not live as husband and wife, (MAN and WOman) who homeschool. That surprises me as well.

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Why should conservative Christians have the monopoly on homeschooling?:confused:

Why does homeschooling require a spouse of the opposite gender (or a spouse at all)? Last I checked, the only requirement was having a kid to educate.

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Hold on to your panties, Elsie, another witch is posting in this thread. ;) I suggest you do some research, or even a simple search here on the board, to learn exactly what that means. I don't have the time or desire to go into it now.

 

OP: To answer your question-- it was the Bible. I was a regular church-goer as a child (protestant), went to Catholic school etc. I considered myself Christian. Then, as a young adult, I wanted to learn more about my faith so I did something I hadn't before-- I read the Bible, cover to cover. I was shocked, and felt like what the pastors and priests had served up to me all those years was "Christianity-lite" and a false representation of the god described in the Bible. The kind, loving "God" I'd been familiar with all my life did not exist in that book. Sure there were parts that were inspiring, but many more that I just couldn't reconcile. I had to decide: either it is all real, and I have to live my life according this book, or it's all false. It didn't feel right to pick and choose what I liked about it and scrap the rest. So ultimately I couldn't believe in a god like the one described in the Bible, and I left Christianity. Unlike Audrey though, I do still believe in a "higher power" of sorts; one that jibes with my sense of what life is all about.

 

I have no beef with Christians in general. Living where I do I don't encounter a lot of evangelical or fundamentalist types. Most of the intolerance I've come across has been on this board (not personally). :)

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Blue Moon...we're all cycling, aren't we? (okay, not me, because I haven't seen mine since Mags was born a year and a half ago)

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Oh no. I am Catholic. Much worse in certain circles.

 

But I am pro-cupcake. And pro-goat. And pro-kilt. So really, it is all good but the sacrificing. When my goat comes, he gets to live safely in the backyard.

 

Is your backyard El Chubacabra proof?

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Blue Moon...we're all cycling, aren't we? (okay, not me, because I haven't seen mine since Mags was born a year and a half ago)

 

I hate you...

 

 

 

 

:lol:

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Is your backyard El Chubacabra proof?

 

No, but I have a giant border collie. They like sheep. I bet he cam herd a goat also. :D

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I'm a "reluctant atheist." I was raised a Christian and now I'm not. Nothing horrible happened to me, I just grew out of it. If dh wanted, I would go back to church in a heartbeat. I always had friends there and enjoyed singing in the choir. However, it wouldn't be genuine. I haven't believed in anything since I was a child. I actually wish I did believe in something. I used to pray for belief, which was weird since I didn't believe. So then I would pray for authenticity. :001_huh: Yeah, it's a little confusing.

 

As far as homeschooling goes, I am not at all opposed to using religious material in our school (with the exception of Science. I can't really bend on that one.)

 

Overall, I try not to get involved in religious arguments because I think religion is an important part of culture and family. It would make no sense to want everyone to think like me. I love the diversity of this world (and this board) and I would be unimaginably bored if everyone held the same beliefs (or non-beliefs) as everyone else.

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How about fat women with tattoos and no husband.

 

Plus we all know that *I* am the only one that actually owns homeschooling. It is a rule, all those that want to homeschool have to apply for a license from me. I grant them to anyone that can type a post without appearing to be an adolescent in serious need of typing and/or spelling lessons. They can me homosexual, heterosexual, christian, wiccan or anythiing except for stupid. I refuse to grant homeschool licenses to stupid people. I do however hand out signs.

 

So here's your sign *I'm Stupid* to anyone that thinks today is a good day to poke the hive.

 

For everyone else I have issued *troll-be-gone* spray. Apply liberally where ever you see a troll outbreak cropping up.

 

I just thought of that country song :lol::lol::lol: "here's your sign."

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I don't know if you were referrng to me or not, but I certainly was not trying to cause problems. I've beenon this board sinse April, I think, and dont have myny posts and am not even on this site that often. When I saw the title of the thread, I assumed it was about falling from grace, or having faih then loosing it~more of a "do you believe in eternal securit" type ?. When I started reading all these posts, from HOMEschool mamas, I was simple shocked. I guess I live a pretty sheltered life, as I didn't realize there ARE witches??? How can someone be a witch? That is confusing to me. Also, I didn't realize there are people, who do not live as husband and wife, (MAN and WOman) who homeschool. That surprises me as well.

 

I guess I just thought hs was something christians did, and didn't realize the culture is this messed up in their thinking. It is insane.

 

Yes we as christians are to be loving and love people, but we are NOT to be tolerant of SIN! We love the gays but do not accept their lifestyle, and so on.

 

Jesus told the woman at the well, who HE DID forgive, to go and SIN NO MORE.

 

That's all. My views are complete opposite of most of yours, and I'm not here to debate. I won't be chaging my mind, as you likely won't either. I think its great to be able to share OUR own views, I was just completely taken back by all this!

 

Actually, quite a few posters likely share your views here but thry tend to be rather more diplomatic, choosing not to throw around terms like, "insane" and "messed up".

 

I tend to think they don't share you're rather extreme naivity, something that is most definitely not a virtue and puzzling on a board where Classical homeschooling is a major focus.

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That's overreaching. The poster just stated surprise, asked for clarification, then made some boring comment about having different views. Views on what? We don't know for sure. We can guess but until she reveals what they are, it's rather hard to discuss them and stranger to insult her.

 

It was not my intent to insult her. However, I did feel that her underlying tone was insulting to others and that she was going to use Christianity as her cloak. As a Christian, that is highly offensive to me.

 

To each his/her own. :)

 

ETA - Now seeing her later post, I truly don't feel that I overreacted at all. Jumped the gun, perhaps. Maybe I'm just psychic. But that may REALLY confuse the whole situation. :lol:

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I hate you...

 

 

 

 

:lol:

As long as I know that you're really mad at Mother Nature, but really still love me, it's okay. I'll embrace your frustration.

 

 

:lol:

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Actually, quite a few posters likely share your views here but thry tend to be rather more diplomatic, choosing not to throw around terms like, "insane" and "messed up".

 

I tend to think they don't share you're rather extreme naivity, something that is most definitely not a virtue and puzzling on a board where Classical homeschooling is a major focus.

:iagree:

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As long as I know that you're really mad at Mother Nature, but really still love me, it's okay. I'll embrace your frustration.

 

 

:lol:

 

Of course that's the case. It is just easier to only type 3 words and not all that :D

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It was not my intent to insult her. However, I did feel that her underlying tone was insulting to others and that she was going to use Christianity as her cloak. As a Christian, that is highly offensive to me.

 

To each his/her own. :)

 

ETA - Now seeing her later post, I truly don't feel that I overreacted at all. Jumped the gun, perhaps. Maybe I'm just psychic. But that may REALLY confuse the whole situation. :lol:

 

I was just pointing out how we should let people reveal themselves first and she promptly obliged. :)

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I didn't leave the church because of christians, although I haven't met many who resemble Jesus. I left the church because I think it's a myth/fairy tale like so many others over the centuries. I left because of scientific facts.

 

:iagree:

 

 

The 'culture' of hsing is inclusion...at least on THIS board.

:iagree:

 

I don't live in bubble (foreign service brat) but I will share that until I got on these boards, I never knew people breastfeed their kids until 4 or 5 or that people were witches. True story.

 

ETA: Now that I come to think about, I never knew that much about evangelicals either.

Before I came to the Hive, I'd never heard of the Pearls or Ezzos.

 

I was happier in my ignorance.

:iagree:

 

I have no beef with Christians in general. Living where I do I don't encounter a lot of evangelical or fundamentalist types. Most of the intolerance I've come across has been on this board (not personally). :)

 

:iagree:

 

I wouldn't say I've lived an insulated life at all but there are a few things (mostly strictly evangelical, fundamentalist points of view) that I was completely unaware of until I started homeschooling and found this board.

 

I did know people were witches (one of my best friends is), I did know about extending breastfeeding.

 

Some I definitely could have happily lived without ever knowing.

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I guess I just thought hs was something christians did, and didn't realize the culture is this messed up in their thinking. It is insane.

Yes we as christians are to be loving and love people, but we are NOT to be tolerant of SIN! We love the gays but do not accept their lifestyle, and so on.

 

A perfect example... in case and anybody still wonders why some of us left Christianity because of (some) Christians

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This is certainly a shock to see sooo many mamas, who hs thir chilren, have such different views.

 

You find diversity shocking? I think it's what makes westernized countries vibrant.

 

So probably the poster is thinking Audry thinks she can become invisible and everyone else is going along with it, either to humour her or because we are nuts too.

 

:lol::lol::lol:

 

We love the gays

 

Who are "the gays"? Can we spot them by their rainbow colored outfits, or are they stealthily going about their business, raising children, shopping for groceries, etc.? How sneaky of them to be so normal.

 

Well you also don't like fat women with tattoos....

 

Oh, is she *that* poster?

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How do I get that to my FB page?

It's in my wallpost album on FB. We're friends on FB. Or right click and save to your desktop and then upload it ;)

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If it's not too late to post on topic -

 

I left Christianity when I started reading the bible. I was raised Catholic - old school 1960's Catholic. The kind that is socially liberal and usually voted for Democrats. We were nominal Catholics so when I met dh and he said his ex was Catholic, I had no problem converting to Methodist. He was raised in a loosely religious home also.

 

As a Catholic, there wasn't much (any really) bible reading going on. I think it's different now, but that's not how it was when I was growing up. So, when I joined the Methodist church I also joined a bible study. I also started reading it every day at home. The more I read, the more I scratched my head. Even though Methodists aren't bible literalists, I still couldn't wrap my mind around the stories even as metaphors. I started looking into other religions, but I think by then the scientific part of my brain took over. I just couldn't believe in a supernatural being, Christian or any other.

 

Unlike some people, I didn't struggle or feel sad when I let go of belief. It was just kind of a shrug and realization that there's nothing "out there" and that that's okay.

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Ok, I'm biting~what's a troll?

 

Someone who posts inflammatory posts on purpose to start arguments, etc... Or bring down a fruitful discussion.

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Ok, I'm biting~what's a troll?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

 

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."

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Back on topic, I also find that finding my morals and ethics within myself to be very empowering. I have seen (not on this thread, just in the past) confusion from some Christian posters who do not understand how someone could have morals without an outside source laying out what they should be. I have to admit, I just find that way of thinking hard to comprehend. Just another reason why religion, any religion, isn't a good match for me. I don't want to look for an outside source to dictate who I should be as a person.

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A short fat woman without tattoos. :tongue_smilie:

 

And don't forget....who is a goat riding cupcake eating witch.

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And don't forget....who is a goat riding cupcake eating witch.

 

We have to ride the goat now?

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And don't forget....who is a goat riding cupcake eating witch.

 

I'm pretty sure they do not have facial piercings though. Because those are like, evil and stuff.

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Back on topic, I also find that finding my morals and ethics within myself to be very empowering. I have seen (not on this thread, just in the past) confusion from some Christian posters who do not understand how someone could have morals without an outside source laying out what they should be. I have to admit, I just find that way of thinking hard to comprehend. Just another reason why religion, any religion, isn't a good match for me. I don't want to look for an outside source to dictate who I should be as a person.

I have to say that this is one area where ya'll have broadened me. Many of us that were raised Christian, and are Christian, have had it pounded into us that Christianity is the basis of our morals. But then, the Jews have morals also...oh, wait, they are the exception ;) (tongue in cheek, just how it was presented when we were young). However, Scripture states that "Eternity is in their hearts". This applies to Christians and non-Christians and it put some things into perspective for me.

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Are you a troll?

 

I hate to break it to you, Wendy, but I, once named a magnificent troll hunter, am actually a troll.

 

I'm going on a goat ride now.

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And don't forget....who is a goat riding cupcake eating witch.

 

Riding a goat and eating a cupcake sounds like so much fun ! :D

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I hate to break it to you, Wendy, but I, once named a magnificent troll hunter, am actually a troll.

 

I'm going on a goat ride now.

 

ROFL.

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Thanks!

 

I'm really not trying to come across as unkind or judgemetal. I am of the conservative movement and have been a christian for 15 years~and I guess living with no tv, and not following the news really, its just sooo hard to believe there is such differences and acceptance of things, like the 50 shades of grey book, the Hunger Games, etc,,,I just didn't realize these things we soo much a part of society and amoung the homeschoolers.

 

This thread though has been interesting to say the least.

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