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Kidcoder & Teencoder from Homeschool Programming Inc?

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I posted this on the K-8 forum, but I thought maybe I'd find better luck here. I'm looking for input about Kidcoder and/or Teencoder from Homeschool Programming Inc. HBC has is at a discount right now, but I'd like to hear what others think before I jump in. How long (approx.) would one course last? Do you feel they learned enough for it to be useful? I'm looking mainly at Kidcoder Windows Programming and Kidcoder Gaming Programming. Thanks!

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