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I feel completely lost as to what to do for next year. My dd is 6 and she is a reluctant reader, can I start first language lessons if she only on lesson 50 of Ordinary Parents Guide to Teaching Reading? I was going to use Tapestry of Grace for history. What about spelling? Does anyone have a recommendation? Thanks for all your help!!!

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FLL 1&2 is a lot of oral work. If I'm remembering correctly your kiddo wouldn't have to do much reading. I did FLL 1&2 in one year (second grade) like Christina suggested. It worked out well.

 

I'd give spelling some time yet. Wait until she is reading better. I highly recommend All About Spelling. It was/is a life saver for my struggling speller.

 

I've got no info to pass on about TOG

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Here is the official Peace Hill Press answer http://www.peacehillpress.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=3

 

My child is using The Ordinary Parent's Guide to Teaching Reading. At what lesson number do I begin a spelling program, a penmanship program, and First Language Lessons Levels 1 and 2 (the grammar and writing program)?

 

Jessie advises teaching reading, writing, and spelling separately from one another, as they are three separate skills. You don't want to slow a child's reading progress just because her fine motor skills are not yet fully developed. And a child always does better spelling words he can easily read and recognize. Reading instruction can begin before spelling and penmanship. Most four- and five-year-olds can learn to read.

 

There is no set lesson in The Ordinary Parent's Guide to Teaching Reading at which the child should begin her spelling and penmanship instruction. Generally, the child should be about half-way through the lessons (around Lesson 115). At that point the child can read words with the most common patterns for short-and long-vowel sounds. The words in her spelling and penmanship program will therefore be familiar to her.

 

You need to be more precise when deciding to start First Language Lessons, since the child is asked to do copywork exercises. The Ordinary Parent's Guide is structured so that the child applies most phonetic rules to single-syllable words (Lessons 1-177). Lesson 178 and following in The Ordinary Parent's Guide are all multi-syllable words—these lessons reinforce the patterns taught earlier. A few new phonetic patterns are introduced in multi-syllable words, but those patterns are not as common as the patterns taught in earlier lessons. Once the child has completed Lesson 181 in The Ordinary Parent's Guide, he knows how to read most phonetic patterns, how to sound out the parts of multi-syllable words, and he has been introduced to the schwa sound. He is fully capable of doing copywork.

 

First Language Lessons for the Well-Trained Mind (Levels 1 and 2) is mostly oral work, although copywork exercises begin in Lesson 42 (and dictation exercises begin later). So by the time the child reaches Lesson 42 in FLL, he should be on or past Lesson 182 in OPG. If you are looking for a lesson by lesson comparison (and you do the same number of grammar and reading lessons per week), you can start FLL when the child in on Lesson 140 in OPG.

 

Following this suggestion assumes that the child has been practicing penmanship enough to copy names, words, and short sentences. If she can't do the copywork at the end of Lesson 42 (and subsequent lessons where she copies short words and sentences), delay beginning First Language Lessons until her penmanship skills prepare her for this.

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