hmsch4me Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I was scanning the NEA (National Education Association) website and found this gem. This is saddening to me. http://www.nea.org/espcolumns/dv040220.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty ethel rackham Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 What a crock!! What an amateurish attempt to write an article. Gee, the total research consisted of maybe 5 minutes of internet searching. Did you notice that the author is the custodian at a school? The author obviously has not studied anything close to grammar or logic. I wouldn't accept such a poor job from my eighth grader, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 about "professional" teachers, and parents who brought their dc home because of the failure of "professional" teachers, and oh, so much more. But I won't say them. I think I'll have a cup of tea and pat down my nerve endings. Grr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudreyTN Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I can't believe after reading all that HE IS ONLY A JANITOR!! Not even a teacher himself! How does he know anything about teaching anyway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Baer Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicGyrl Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Well, this "well-meaning amatuer" has the backing of my DH's entire school, including the Principal! :) Anyone who teaches with or knows DH, knows we homeschool and also knows it was HIS idea to homeschool, WHILE he was still a teacher (that is, he's still a teacher now, but he was just a baby teacher when we decided this). Only one person oppossed us, but she was promptly shut up by his Principal. His Vice Principal used to give my kids their evaluations. :) What does that say about this school and their teachers? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.griff Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Well, we all know that opinions are like you-know-whats and everyone has one. I know LOTS of people with completely ignorant STUPID ideas- but I don't let it get to me. Who cares what some ignorant janitor thinks about hsing anyway? He probably thinks we're incapable of cleaning up vomit when our children are sick at home too. Yeh, that's good, we should have to report to the local school district when someone blows chunks in our home hallway, and then they can send a janitor over to sprinkle that sawdust junk on it, and then they can lecture us about what a bad thing we are doing by HSing our kids until they get it cleaned up. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volty Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Thankfully we're within our legal rights to homeschool. Also, the reason we give up a second income or the convienince of a public school eduction, which would be very convieninet and cost us no tuition, is we're not satisfied with it. How about the author focuses on providing a worthwhile education, and we'll be happy to send our kids to you. Or in his case, focus on the vomit on the kndergarten classroom floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen sn Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Having spent the afternoon yesterday trying to explain the very simple metric system to a public school child - I would tell the janitor he's clueless. My friend's kid couldn't do the metric conversions in his homework because he does not get the metric system and he can't do the matematical calculations required anyway because he doesn't get that 12 and a half equals 12.5. He also can not do multiplication on paper (like 12.5 times whatever). He feels stupid (although I know he's not) because they passed him to the next grade when he didn't have the basic education necessary to continue!! He is totally screwed. Given where he is in his wonderful ps education and what they expect from him - he can go no further. (He did not even know that a foot equals 12 inches). He doesn't have the basic understanding to go any further. He can't answer their horribly worded questions because he is completely lost. These brilliant kids are lost in the "no child left behind" current state of our nation's education. Oh.....but I preach to the choir here! I just know - if I could have Travis at my house for a few months I could go back to where he does have some foundation and work from there. They rush these kids and so the kids just really never get it or retain it. sigh.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karenciavo Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 This article I believe is old and/or recycled. I don't give it much thought. nt. . Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volty Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 In any class, you've got five really bright kids, five lost in space, and 15 in the middle. And they all have different styles of learning. A teacher can only go so fast or so slowly and not be able to go just right for everybody. Plus you have discipline issuestoo with bullies and speds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle T Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I've seen this several times, I think it's been around at least a couple years. The dude is a janitor; by his own logic, he knows nothing about teaching, so how can he pass judgement on homeschoolers? He should stick with cleaning the bathrooms and getting the gum out from under the desks. I'd be glad to hear his advice on cleaning, don't care about his opinion on teaching. Michelle T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolash Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 and this bozo's a member of the Illinois Education Association? Hmm.. wonder what his "area of expertise" is? But like he said, some things are best left to the professionals... which is why he should clean up his, uh, trash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milseain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I've seen this several times, I think it's been around at least a couple years. The dude is a janitor; by his own logic, he knows nothing about teaching, so how can he pass judgement on homeschoolers? He should stick with cleaning the bathrooms and getting the gum out from under the desks. I'd be glad to hear his advice on cleaning, don't care about his opinion on teaching. Michelle T Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 How tiresome.... I wish they could see the way my older son's "professional" teacher conducts his honors lit class..... Let's see, they did a paper in the third week of school, oh, and another they had to rush through during the last week of the semester (I suppose so he could say they did at least two).... Neither ever got graded. Nor was feedback given. Oh, grades finally showed up online for the semester, but I do believe they were pulled out of a hat. Now, we're a month into the second semester. I just went online to see his grades. The teacher has about a dozen things listed - none of them graded, nor do I expect them to be until at least the last week of the semester..... Just a few days ago, I was looking through the notebooks of his high school work done while he was still at home. Just the samples of his work I included were many times the actual work he's completed this year. I'm afraid he's going to lose all his writing skills!!! Regena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestof3 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I bet I've read more books on how children learn and child development than most teachers! I don't need lessons on classroom management or how to produce cookie-cutter kids. Even when we don't "school" on a particular day, I'm sure my boys learn more in their free time than they would in a classroom. Take today for example. Rotten day. I didn't feel well. Our 17 year old self-schools, so he kept going as usual. My 8 and 6 year old boys spent much of the day designing coats of armor with big brother helping from time to time. They used a lightbox and a Dover book. Our 6 year old spent a couple of hours tracing shields and helmets, adding carious designs and coloring them. They enthusiastically watched math videos on geometry, number operations including multiplication and conversions, measuring and estimating (and they understand it). Our 8 year old listened to hours of Our Island Story. The young boys created Playmobil setups all the while discussing the Saxons, the Celts, and so on. Before bed, our 17 year old read our 8 year old another chapter from G A Henty's "Dragon and the Raven" (something he chose to do on his own). This was after he ran -- which he does because he is in training to act as a pacer in my brother's 100 mile race in May. When I told him he should be getting to bed, he was watching a Battle of the Bulge documentary. Even on "school" days, they take learning farther than what we do in "school time." We were reading about univalves vs bivalves pertaining to mollusks and we when finished, they enthusiastically began sorting our shell collection into two groups. They recognized some from our reading and others used a field guide to identify. Those who have never homeschooled know nothing about it! How could they? I didn't know what it would be like before I began! Providing a learning environment is half the "battle." They will learn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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