ktgrok Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 My dh got upset today that I took our nude just turned 2 daughter out into the driveway today. She had just used the potty for the very first time, and I wanted him to congratulate her as she was a bit unsure of the whole thing. She was in my arms, with girl bits against my body (so they were not visible), with my arm under her bottom so really not visible either. And we were in our driveway on a quiet street. One person was outside, working on cleaning out their garage, several houses away and across the street. I find nothing wrong with a nude toddler, especially in the circumstances described. He feels it is bizarre and against all societal norms. He says most people would agree with him. Do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susann Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I'd have no problem w/it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 While I voted 'inappropriate', that's not really how I feel. I wouldn't do it, but I don't find it inappropriate. My dh, however, would've reacted like yours. Which is why I wouldn't have done it, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalknot Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 No, I don't. We have kids running around nude all of the time, in fact you've described our entire potty training methodology: keep 'em naked, point 'em to a corner in the yard, and show 'em how to squat or spray. We're also those annoying immigrants in the neighborhood doing this type of thing and bringing down property values ;) :D LOL so YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I said "other." Somewhere between "I wouldn't do it" and "so what," but not quite inappropriate. I lean more toward "inappropriate" but that doesn't seem to be the right word. That seems a bit strong, and I don't feel that it's that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 my boys ran around with nothing on at 2, but i didn't let my daughter. I have no reason why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegoat Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I think it is fine but I also think people have become uptight. They don't even show the bum on that sunscreen baby mascot any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 As long as she wasn't cold I see nothing wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyandbob Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I think it's fine. I know my dh would not have liked me doing that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samiam Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I said "other." Somewhere between "I wouldn't do it" and "so what," but not quite inappropriate. I lean more toward "inappropriate" but that doesn't seem to be the right word. That seems a bit strong, and I don't feel that it's that bad. I agree with this. While not really inappropriate or even weird, really, it's just kind of awkward to me. While I completely think that little baby bottoms are the cutest thing ever, and love to see my little toddlers running down the hallway after a bathroom in the nude. That being said, we didn't generally have them out and about in the house naked. I guess we are prudish in that way. So taking them outside at age 2, naked, yeah, probably not something we would have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Meh, no big deal. During potty training little nekkid toddler butts are normally running around here. If I have people over etc I have them get properly dessed, but otherwise nekkid it is. In fact at little ones they also played in the pool in the front yard nekkid. No big deal imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissad2 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 My 2yo was playing in the sprinkler today in the nude :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mama2cntrykids Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 My oldest ds used to play in the kiddie pool outside our house completely nude at 18-21 months. He also ran around outside with only a t-shirt on at two b/c he was potty training. So, no, I see nothing wrong with it. Still just a baby in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ. Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I find absolutely nothing wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuff Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I don't see it as a big deal on a quiet street, but my dh would agree with yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyWImom Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I see nothing wrong with it either, but then I grew up in a "naked" household. My parents were relaxed about nudity, but some people aren't. Maybe your dh grew up differently, and that's why he reacted the way he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 I see nothing wrong with it either, but then I grew up in a "naked" household. My parents were relaxed about nudity, but some people aren't. Maybe your dh grew up differently, and that's why he reacted the way he did. My dh grew up in a very very very weird home...lets just say he is going to the other extreme here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kidsforME Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 While I voted 'inappropriate', that's not really how I feel. I wouldn't do it, but I don't find it inappropriate. My dh, however, would've reacted like yours. Which is why I wouldn't have done it, LOL. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyD Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I voted it's perfectly fine, but I have to say that my DH is also way more uptight (not to be judgmental or anything :tongue_smilie:) than I am about our little ones being naked, and that's with all boys. I think it's adorable, but he's always all, "Where are your pants! We wear pants in this house!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonermomma Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 He would have really been in dismay if he had been at my house last week when my three year old son stripped naked on the trampoline and then continued to jump! I had a heck of a time catching him to get him off due to the enclosure. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I voted it's perfectly fine, but I have to say that my DH is also way more uptight (not to be judgmental or anything :tongue_smilie:) than I am about our little ones being naked, and that's with all boys. I think it's adorable, but he's always all, "Where are your pants! We wear pants in this house!" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 At that age I think its completely fine. What's weird is anyone having a problem with it. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Thanks everyone. At least I know I'm not crazy! Thinking about it, he even got upset when we watched the movie Babies....there was a little boy in Mongolia running around without pants/diaper and my husband kept asking "why doesn't he have pants on!!!!!!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeannie in NJ Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 at that age, my dd would strip off her swimsuit to run down to pee in the ocean. The only reaction we ever got from others were smiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmy Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I have no problem with nude toddlers. Mine like to play in the yard naked and it doesn't bother me at all. It's easier to hose them down that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Wallace Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I wouldn't make a habit out of it, but the thing you didn't mention here was that time was of the uppermost: she JUST successfully completed the potty visit, he JUST drove up, and let's face it -- she's two, and would likely have had a hard time putting together "successful potty visit" with "Dad congratulates me a half hour later after I'm dressed." We need "cause" quickly followed by "effect" at that age. And hey -- she's just two. Big deal if it's one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skadi Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I think we were scarred for life by having some friends who let their toddler run around naked all the time. Call me a prude, but I don't want anyone's penis rubbed against my leg as they try to climb on me. I don't want to stare at a twig and berries unconsciously and then think "Oh no, I'm staring! I didn't mean to!" I don't want to sit on furniture where a little kid has dragged his naked butt across the seat minutes before. We wouldn't tolerate that kind of stuff from adults, so I think it's important to teach children that it is not appropriate behavior. I think part of it is also about respect -- I want to demonstrate that respect for ones own body and the privacy of others, no matter how young they might be. A one time event like you describe wouldn't bug me, but in general I'm not permissive of that because I include children as part of a greater society that does not engage in public nudity (rather than treating children like a breed apart from us or something). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 I think we were scarred for life by having some friends who let their toddler run around naked all the time. Call me a prude, but I don't want anyone's penis rubbed against my leg as they try to climb on me. I don't want to stare at a twig and berries unconsciously and then think "Oh no, I'm staring! I didn't mean to!" I don't want to sit on furniture where a little kid has dragged his naked butt across the seat minutes before. We wouldn't tolerate that kind of stuff from adults, so I think it's important to teach children that it is not appropriate behavior. I think part of it is also about respect -- I want to demonstrate that respect for ones own body and the privacy of others, no matter how young they might be. A one time event like you describe wouldn't bug me, but in general I'm not permissive of that because I include children as part of a greater society that does not engage in public nudity (rather than treating children like a breed apart from us or something). I don't let her run around naked when we have people over, or even on a regular basis at home. Just when we are trying to learn to use the potty. Interesting post though. I guess I never thought of it that way..I know in most societies, including our own for a long time, children had different standards and codes of dress than adults. (some places that meant naked, some places it meant boys and girls wore dresses, some places it meant boys wore short pants and men long, and girls wore short dresses and men long) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I find absolutely nothing wrong with it. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I voted "inappropriate," although I think that's too strong a word. *I* would not have taken a nekkid toddler out in the front yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustybug Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 At that age I think its completely fine. What's weird is anyone having a problem with it. :D Guess I'm weird then. :tongue_smilie: My DH would have reacted the same way, and barring a house fire or something, I wouldn't even take a naked infant outside of the house. I don't even allow them to run around in only a diaper unless they are inside our house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceful Isle Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I voted other. I wouldn't do that, but I'm not saying it was wrong of you to. I would have probably grabbed a towel or something to cover the child with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Completely fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_midori Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I dunno - I guess I keep picturing perverts lurking around the corners ogling little kids... too many cop shows!! lol I'm generally very loose in the "who sees a body" thing, including my own (I'm sure as shooting not going to be upset to jump out of bed bum-nekked & attack an intruder, for instance, or feel personally violated if some creep decides to plant cameras or something bizarre - not that I'd be "ok, whatever", I just wouldn't be "omg I can't take it!")... but I am uncomfortable with the thought of deliberately going out in the public, open-to-the-world front yard with a completely naked child. Only a diaper, sure. Backyard with walls, sure. Running around the house naked, sure. But walking outside with a totally naked child, with neighbors in their yards? Um... no. At the very least, I think it might potentially be very uncomfortable to THEM, which I would want to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I wouldn't let her run streaking down the street, but holding her in your arms for a short while in your own yard is not weird. She's practically a baby. I would not let a little girl play naked outdoors or indoors for any length of time, but that is more of a sanitary issue. (My kids, age 5, are always trying to get my goat by streaking around the house. They think it is hilarious.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondeviolin Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 No matter how often I try to clothe Ellie, she is nude a fair bit. And even when she is dressed, it's usually a dress and no panties. I try to make sure she has underwear on if she's in the back yard. My kids are required to wear clothes to be in the front (or answer the door)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 I dunno - I guess I keep picturing perverts lurking around the corners ogling little kids... too many cop shows!! lol I'm generally very loose in the "who sees a body" thing, including my own (I'm sure as shooting not going to be upset to jump out of bed bum-nekked & attack an intruder, for instance, or feel personally violated if some creep decides to plant cameras or something bizarre - not that I'd be "ok, whatever", I just wouldn't be "omg I can't take it!")... but I am uncomfortable with the thought of deliberately going out in the public, open-to-the-world front yard with a completely naked child. Only a diaper, sure. Backyard with walls, sure. Running around the house naked, sure. But walking outside with a totally naked child, with neighbors in their yards? Um... no. At the very least, I think it might potentially be very uncomfortable to THEM, which I would want to avoid. i guess I get that. We know all our neighbors, they all have kids too, although older than mine. And the only one outside was half a block away, not close enough to see anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trish Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I don't find it inappropriate. Yet, in the internet age, I worry about people with Long Lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelle in MO Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I think what you did was fine. I would've done it and not thought twice. Dh would be fine w/it, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I think we were scarred for life by having some friends who let their toddler run around naked all the time. Call me a prude, but I don't want anyone's penis rubbed against my leg as they try to climb on me. I don't want to stare at a twig and berries unconsciously and then think "Oh no, I'm staring! I didn't mean to!" I don't want to sit on furniture where a little kid has dragged his naked butt across the seat minutes before. We wouldn't tolerate that kind of stuff from adults, so I think it's important to teach children that it is not appropriate behavior. I think part of it is also about respect -- I want to demonstrate that respect for ones own body and the privacy of others, no matter how young they might be. A one time event like you describe wouldn't bug me, but in general I'm not permissive of that because I include children as part of a greater society that does not engage in public nudity (rather than treating children like a breed apart from us or something). :confused: Is this post hyperbole or sarcastic? It must be, and I am missing it. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Elf Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I don't know. On one hand, she's 2 so it doesn't seem like a big deal. On the other hand, I can't help but think of the man who was arrested because his child (4 yrs. old I think?) drew a picture of him with a gun. I can totally see some government official deciding that carrying a naked child around outside is some sort of abuse. But I admit I'm a person who sees the negative side of everything. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I voted "inappropriate", but that really isn't the right descriptor for why I wouldn't do it. Regardless of whether you feel you know your neighbors, or whether you think you know if they can see your naked little girl from their house/windows, I'm just too aware of how often predators live among us. With the prevalence of girls who are sexually abused either by strangers, neighbors, family members (as evidenced by informal polls on this board), I would not feel comfortable exposing my dd's body in public. Yes, to me, and to most people, a 2 year old is just a sweet baby. To others though, it's a titillation that I don't want to provide, kwim? I wouldn't freak out about a one-time short exposure, but I understand your dh's reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I wouldn't think twice about it. And FWIW I was an advocate for sexually abused kids. Criminals are going to see what they want to see. Someone who finds 2 year olds to be sexually stimulating doesn't need to see them naked to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Pfft, mine ran around nekkid all the time. ALL the time. I asked my neighbor if she was offended, and she was a French Canadian and fully endorsed naked children running around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Pfft, mine ran around nekkid all the time. ALL the time. I asked my neighbor if she was offended, and she was a French Canadian and fully endorsed naked children running around. Just one more reason I love you, and your posts. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimummy Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Totally fine in our household. I would do (and have done) exactly what you did with no hesitation. Our 2yr old DD takes off ALL her clothes every time she goes on the potty! She never wants to put them back on so she is very often running around the house without clothes, and I've taken her out the front like that when necessarry for brief periods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Someone who finds 2 year olds to be sexually stimulating doesn't need to see them naked to do so. I wish it were as simple as that. If that were true, there would be no child porn. Ask an offender which would more readily draw their attention--naked child, or clothed child? Sadly, I think we can guess at the answer to that one. Wherever my dc might be seen by others, they had their clothes on. In the house, or in our very private yard, naked was okay, but not in possible view of neighbors or passers-by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 :confused: Is this post hyperbole or sarcastic? It must be, and I am missing it. :001_huh: :D Totally fine in our household. I would do (and have done) exactly what you did with no hesitation.Our 2yr old DD takes off ALL her clothes every time she goes on the potty! She never wants to put them back on so she is very often running around the house without clothes, and I've taken her out the front like that when necessarry for brief periods. My DS stripped every time he went #2 until he was almost 6. The boy really likes to be naked, even now at 6, it's a battle to get him dressed after a bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I remember in the neighborhood where I grew up, there was a family that had kids age 1, 2, and 3, and often after a bath they would escape running naked down the street, their mom chasing them with a towel. I really don't think anyone was pulling out their cameras or getting off on the sight. Neighbors just chuckled, felt sorry for her, and wondered if she was going to get her life under control before she had any more kids. Yes, there are weirdos out there, but the vast majority of incidents involve people the family knows and trusts. I would not worry that a brief flash of baby skin would excite someone down the street. If there is a pedophile in the neighborhood who would actually touch the neighbor kids, a layer of clothing isn't going to prevent that. I'd be curious to know why so many dads are intolerant of baby nudity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Guess I'm weird then. :tongue_smilie: My DH would have reacted the same way, and barring a house fire or something, I wouldn't even take a naked infant outside of the house. I don't even allow them to run around in only a diaper unless they are inside our house. :iagree: We never made a big deal out of it, but ds always wore clothing. There was simply no need for him to run around naked. I don't see it as a lack of freedom to put some clothes on. I don't think the OP did anything terrible or that there was any harm done, but honestly, I would have taken the extra 30 seconds to put the kid's clothes back on before taking her outdoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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