Halcyon Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Hey all I was thinking of downloading the Verbal Problems book and then making my own laminated board (the shipping for the board and pawns is 10 bucks, about double the cost!)--we have various colored dice up to 10, and game pieces we can use for pawns...and I can make a laminated board. My older son can already solve basic algebra questions like 4x-9=2x+3 so I think it would be okay to move to the verbal problems books, which is a $35 download. Thoughts on people who have used this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 After I got the starter set,I said the same thing-that if I'd just gotten the book, I could have made this myself, so I'd say "Go for it". I also found, somewhere, worksheets online that covered much the same content as the first workbook that a teacher had made for HOE, so you might want to try googling it and see what you found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Thanks! I was also thinking it might be fun to try doing some of the CWP problems using the HOE "method"! ETA: Found them! Thx! Edited February 13, 2012 by Halcyon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poke Salad Annie Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Don't forget you can get David Tower's Intellectual Algebra free at Google books. We work these problems on the dry-erase board every night. I read the problem, and I let the little guy work them on scrap paper. I also let him work them out on the dry-erase board. We have decided to skip the HOE, as we have been setting up problems as algebraic equations since the start of MEP. I worried that the HOE might become a crutch that could prove difficult to break away from later as a transfer to paper work. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Don't forget you can get David Tower's Intellectual Algebra free at Google books. We work these problems on the dry-erase board every night. I read the problem, and I let the little guy work them on scrap paper. I also let him work them out on the dry-erase board. We have decided to skip the HOE, as we have been setting up problems as algebraic equations since the start of MEP. I worried that the HOE might become a crutch that could prove difficult to break away from later as a transfer to paper work. YMMV. Interesting. My son already knows how to set up algebraic equations for the most part....I am going to take a look at that book! Much appreciated :) ETA: Is there an answer key to the book-it looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poke Salad Annie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Interesting. My son already knows how to set up algebraic equations for the most part....I am going to take a look at that book! Much appreciated :) ETA: Is there an answer key to the book-it looks great! There is an answer key, but not in the public domain that I am aware of at this time. I think it sells for ~$15 or so on the used book market. I download many of these books from Google, as I never know when they'll be yanked from the freebies. It seems someone must be purchasing the rights to these old books and printing them at the instant print shops around the country. I guess that's when they leave the public domain access, though I have occasionally found things at archive.org that no longer show up at Google books. I wonder if the answer key would show up somewhere on the way-back machine. I haven't searched there yet, so that's a possibility. The book How to Solve Word Problems in Algebra is nice to have, and cheap on the resale market. I think I paid ~$5 or so for my copy, shipped. With the supplies you already have on hand, and a homemade balance board, you will be set for many hours of math fun! I usually mention this book on this board, as it does show a demonstration of the scales, which gives a visual of the need for balancing the equations. Again, I think the HOE program is nice. I really just prefer to show work step by step with reasons for the work (properties, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 There is an answer key, but not in the public domain that I am aware of at this time. I think it sells for ~$15 or so on the used book market. I download many of these books from Google, as I never know when they'll be yanked from the freebies. It seems someone must be purchasing the rights to these old books and printing them at the instant print shops around the country. I guess that's when they leave the public domain access, though I have occasionally found things at archive.org that no longer show up at Google books. I wonder if the answer key would show up somewhere on the way-back machine. I haven't searched there yet, so that's a possibility. The book How to Solve Word Problems in Algebra is nice to have, and cheap on the resale market. I think I paid ~$5 or so for my copy, shipped. With the supplies you already have on hand, and a homemade balance board, you will be set for many hours of math fun! I usually mention this book on this board, as it does show a demonstration of the scales, which gives a visual of the need for balancing the equations. Again, I think the HOE program is nice. I really just prefer to show work step by step with reasons for the work (properties, etc.) Thanks! I'm dling the book now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyforlatin Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 There is an answer key, but not in the public domain that I am aware of at this time. I think it sells for ~$15 or so on the used book market. I download many of these books from Google, as I never know when they'll be yanked from the freebies. It seems someone must be purchasing the rights to these old books and printing them at the instant print shops around the country. I guess that's when they leave the public domain access, though I have occasionally found things at archive.org that no longer show up at Google books. I wonder if the answer key would show up somewhere on the way-back machine. I haven't searched there yet, so that's a possibility. The book How to Solve Word Problems in Algebra is nice to have, and cheap on the resale market. I think I paid ~$5 or so for my copy, shipped. With the supplies you already have on hand, and a homemade balance board, you will be set for many hours of math fun! I usually mention this book on this board, as it does show a demonstration of the scales, which gives a visual of the need for balancing the equations. Again, I think the HOE program is nice. I really just prefer to show work step by step with reasons for the work (properties, etc.) Thank you for the link to the algebra book! I like it! Halcyon, what you are planning to do is excellent. I had no idea that there is downloadable version; otherwise, that's exactly what I would have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The Primary Grade Challenge Math book by Ed Zaccaro has several chapters on algebra and basic linear equations that really breaks down the problem solving steps for children in a well explained way. This might work well with an approach with a book like that mentioned by Poke Salad Annie (which I'm off to download). Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freerange Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thank you for the link to the algebra book! I like it! Halcyon, what you are planning to do is excellent. I had no idea that there is downloadable version...... Nor I, so thanks for this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber in AUS Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Wow! I didn't know you could download the book, brilliant! Saves on postage to Australia! Care to link any other resources you've found? Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in SW WA Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think it would be okay to move to the verbal problems books, which is a $35 download. Thoughts on people who have used this? The HoE verbal problems book w/ complete answer key is worth the $35. The book you downloaded looks wonderful also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 The HoE verbal problems book w/ complete answer key is worth the $35. The book you downloaded looks wonderful also. Thanks! I do wish it was a bit cheaper, though, as pdfs usually are. $35 is a lot of moola, especially when you can't resell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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