amyco Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From ds's Rod and Staff lesson today. He was supposed to diagram this sentence, and these kinds of sentences confuse me as to the subject, and why that word is the subject. Any help and/or explanations gratefully accepted! (I know the answer but don't understand it.) Here is an interesting story. The skeleton is story is Why isn't it "here is"???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsie Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The story is what "is." So, story is the subject. Here tells where it is. You need a noun or pronoun as a subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in NS Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From ds's Rod and Staff lesson today. He was supposed to diagram this sentence, and these kinds of sentences confuse me as to the subject, and why that word is the subject. Any help and/or explanations gratefully accepted! (I know the answer but don't understand it.) Here is an interesting story. The skeleton is story is Why isn't it "here is"???? What is the simple predicate? Is. Who or what is doing that action? (or really, who or what exists, since "is" is a "being" verb) Story. Story is. (when diagraming, always start by asking the two above questions, in that order) In that sentence, "here" is the adverb, answering the question, "where", about the verb, "is". Where is the interesting story? Here. Maybe it's the "is" (the lack of action, lol) that is confusing you. How about this: "Here is being read an interesting story." What is the simple predicate? is being read Who or what is doing that action? Story. Story is being read. hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perky Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 "Here" is an adverb (tells where), so it can't be the subject. Subjects must be nouns or pronouns, (I won't go into gerunds and things, but in general subjects must be nouns of some sort). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAutumnOak Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 "Here" is an adverb (tells where), so it can't be the subject. Subjects must be nouns or pronouns, (I won't go into gerunds and things, but in general subjects must be nouns of some sort). :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankcassiesmom Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yep. The STORY is interesting. Skeleton being Story is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankcassiesmom Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Adding that I am always reminding my 12yods that the sentence isn't always in order when it comes to finding subjects, diagramming, etc. This is the perfect example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From ds's Rod and Staff lesson today. He was supposed to diagram this sentence, and these kinds of sentences confuse me as to the subject, and why that word is the subject. Any help and/or explanations gratefully accepted! (I know the answer but don't understand it.) Here is an interesting story. The skeleton is story is Why isn't it "here is"???? Ds is using R&S. In the lesson they have him rearrange the sentence, putting 'here' at the end. An interesting story is here. There is the same way There is a cat. A cat is there. Hth for future classes :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tress Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 In Dutch we are taught to change the verb from singular to plural, or if it is plural to singular. That which has to change also, to get a correct sentence, is the subject. Here is an interesting story. Change is ---> are. Here are [...] storIES. Story became stories, so story in the original sentence is the subject. It works in Dutch and I'm pretty confident it works for English, too :D. HTH, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in NS Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 ...the sentence isn't always in order when it comes to finding subjects, diagramming... Which is exactly why I tell my kids to always find the simple predicate first, then ask who or what about it. My kids get confused if they don't use this order, esp. with the more complicated sentences. In Dutch we are taught to change the verb from singular to plural, or if it is plural to singular. That which has to change also, to get a correct sentence, is the subject. Here is an interesting story. Change is ---> are. Here are [...] storIES. Story became stories, so story in the original sentence is the subject. It works in Dutch and I'm pretty confident it works for English, too :D. HTH, Hey, that's interesting to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyco Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Thank you everyone! I should have remembered to ask those helper questions. I get confused on the being verbs. I see them as equals signs: "here" = "interesting story" kind of like "Mom" = "Amy" So, I guess my confusion comes in when "here" is neither a pred.nominative or pred. adjective, and my above equation doesn't really work for that sentence. And of course the bit about subjects having to be nouns or pronouns, apparently I forgot that too! (Or maybe I tried to convince myself "here" was a pronoun, somehow. Yikes, must be Friday.) Thanks again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in SW WA Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hey, that's interesting to know! :iagree: Thanks, Tress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nansk Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 In Dutch we are taught to change the verb from singular to plural, or if it is plural to singular. That which has to change also, to get a correct sentence, is the subject. Thanks! This is a good tip that I hope I won't have to use. :-) Adding that I am always reminding my 12yods that the sentence isn't always in order when it comes to finding subjects, diagramming, etc. This is the perfect example. Or rather, "Here is the perfect example." :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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