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My 10yo is in Barton 3 and has been stuck there for a little while (because of spelling, not reading.) What he is learning in the lessons about spelling is not transferring to anything else, either. I put some of the Level 3, Lesson 1 words into spellingcity.com and he missed the majority of them.:001_huh: The sight words, however, he was able to spell much more easily. The same is true when he is writing - he can write a lot of words as long as he has seen them before, but new words that he should be able to phonetically spell come out with nothing resembling phonics at all!

 

He is very visually oriented and I want to capitalize on that. Any ideas?

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We switched our DD to Apples & Pears about 6 weeks ago. We were working through AAS, but were stuck about 1/3 of the way into book 2. And practicing the when to use c and when to use k rule for over a year with no retention, caused me to move over.

 

I know we are still early on in using A&P to give a full thumbs up, but I am noticing a lot better results so far. My DD is an extremely phonetic speller (was would be wuz, have would be hav) but she is now writing these words without sounding them out each and every time. She still sounds out new words she doesn't know how to spell, but these words have now finally stuck. She is also able to look at words and sentences that have missing letters, and able to fill the letters in mentally. To me, this shows that she is finally developing the proper visual memory of the words.

 

So, while AAS made sense to me and I was very reluctant to change, I am so glad I did. My DD I guess is much more a pattern girl that a rules girl.

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My 10yo is in Barton 3 and has been stuck there for a little while (because of spelling, not reading.) What he is learning in the lessons about spelling is not transferring to anything else, either. I put some of the Level 3, Lesson 1 words into spellingcity.com and he missed the majority of them.:001_huh: The sight words, however, he was able to spell much more easily. The same is true when he is writing - he can write a lot of words as long as he has seen them before, but new words that he should be able to phonetically spell come out with nothing resembling phonics at all!

 

He is very visually oriented and I want to capitalize on that. Any ideas?

I supplemented Barton with portions of Seeing Stars. (Any list of the 500 or 1,000 most common words might do the trick.) We went through the "Star Words" list 10-25 words at a time, and any word that he couldn't spell automatically went on his spelling list/test. It stayed there and until he could pass it off on a spelling test.

 

Barton does cover some words as sight words, but maybe that doesn't start until Level 4. This year we stopped supplementing with Seeing Stars because he's far enough now through Barton (level 6) that I'm seeing a lot of overlap. (Plus, I'm tired. :tongue_smilie:)

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I supplemented Barton with portions of Seeing Stars. (Any list of the 500 or 1,000 most common words might do the trick.) We went through the "Star Words" list 10-25 words at a time, and any word that he couldn't spell automatically went on his spelling list/test. It stayed there and until he could pass it off on a spelling test.

 

Barton does cover some words as sight words, but maybe that doesn't start until Level 4. This year we stopped supplementing with Seeing Stars because he's far enough now through Barton (level 6) that I'm seeing a lot of overlap. (Plus, I'm tired. :tongue_smilie:)

 

Sight words start in Level 3 and he is doing okay with those. His bigger trouble is generalizing phonetic spelling to other work besides the Barton lesson.

 

I think going through a list of the common words might be better for him. We're working really hard to get his spelling/writing level to match his reading level in preparation for probable ps next year. He'll be in the 5th grade and he is on a 3rd-ish level (which is 2 grade levels in 9 months, which is about what we have left.)

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