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SO I read this thread about the Logic of English. Of course I had to go poke around. Now I am worried what I am doing for handwriting, phonics and spelling for my littles isn't going to be good enough as a foundation. The boys like it fine, and they are making progress fine. Should I switch to SWRish ways just to be sure they get the spelling? Is it really better?

 

I should mention what we are using MP's Kinder Plans (just the phonics and enrichments {sort of}).

Memoria Press First Start reading with their Classical Phonics book

SRA Phonics Book 1

Varied readers included in MP's Kinder package

HWT Cursive

 

Is this good enough? We have dictation for words they have learned and some are sight words like are, one, does, there. They ask how those are spelled. Does it matter if they know the reason those words are spelled the way they are or is just learning them via exposure enough? I already have two horrible spellers and am trying to not repeat that with these younger ones.

 

Sometimes I feel like if I don't use SWR either by WRTR or SWR or AAS or Phonics Road or now Logic of English, I am going to mess up my kids later.

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I never used any of those programs or anything like them, and I did great. Many others on this forum (likely including yourself) are in the same boat. :)

 

Some kids NEED the O-G style lessons. Most probably don't. If your kids are reading and writing, don't worry about it.

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We used MP K and loved it. I loved it so much (even for my dyslexic ds) that we will be using it again soon for ds 2.

 

If you want, when you move on to MP 1 just use AAS in place of MP's spelling lists (which are just organized by a theme and not spelling rules). That is what we've done. AAS is also an O-G program and if you have kids who need it, its not a big deal to add it at the 1st grade level. :)

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Thank you for the reassurances. I feel much better. (and so does my dh who was starting to sweat that I was going to switch programs yet again.;)) I don't think either son needs O-G methods and frankly, they were not helpful with my older two, either. I have done Dancing Bears/Apples and Pears and AAS in the past.

 

I am planning on staying with MP. I guess I need to look elsewhere for spelling, then. I thought the lists would be related to the phonics they are learning like it is now.

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  • 4 weeks later...

UPDATE: I called MP about the spelling lists and was told that the MP spelling lists for grades 1 and 2 are related to the phonics concept they are studying each week. Yea! One less subject to organize and choose for.

 

Too bad grammar isn't so easy. I really cannot stand R&S.

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UPDATE: I called MP about the spelling lists and was told that the MP spelling lists for grades 1 and 2 are related to the phonics concept they are studying each week. Yea! One less subject to organize and choose for.

 

 

Yes and no. We are working through MP 1 right now, but have chosen not to use their spelling. The spelling lists are related to the phonics learned in SRA Phonics 2, but there is no explanation of rules or how/when to use them. For example, when you are studying hard and soft c & g, the words on the spelling list will be different hard and soft c or g words, but they will not be taught by the rule c & g are soft before i, e, or y (it may be mentioned, but is not the basis of how to teach spelling). This is what I mean by rule-based spelling and is very different from how O-G programs approach spelling.

 

Similarly, the compound words or syllables spelling lists will have multi-syllabic words on them but will not describe all the different rules for how to divide and spell syllables like AAS or SWR will (when vowels go with which syllable, open and closed syllables, etc.).

 

The MP version was not enough spelling work for my dyslexic ds. It might be just fine for others, and it is related to their weekly phonics workbook, but I would not call it rule-based spelling. I think it just depends on what kind of spelling work you feel is necessary for your dc.

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