Wildwood Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hello, I am wanting to purchase a good C-Rod book to use with my 4 year old, looking for suggestions. I saw this one, wondering if anyone has opinions about it or could recommend another... http://www.christianbook.com/idea-book-cuisenaire-rods-primary-level/9781569117484/pd/7357538?event=CBNETP#curr Also, thinking of possibly using Miquon Orange with her some time soon, and wondered if it is suggested for use with a 4.5 year old. I'm attracted to the discovery oriented approach for her and think it will fit her beautifully---from what I can tell. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FO4UR Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I have that book on the shelf, and I don't find it very useful. There is nothing in there that isn't covered better in Miquon. Jump into Miquon with both feet. Use the Orange book, and follow the author's advice to make up your own lab sheets together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Okay, good to know. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Eh. I think it depends. There's very little in there that's not in Miquon, but the layout is much friendlier than Miquon and has lots of inroads for getting kids used to the rods and getting you as an instructor used to the rods. So, Miquon is clearly the superior resource, especially in the long run, but I think it can seem daunting. So... I think some people would really benefit from having a gentle, more modern and accessible introduction to ideas for the rods. That said, if you're sure you're going the Miquon route, just get the Miquon materials and delve in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Eh. I think it depends. There's very little in there that's not in Miquon, but the layout is much friendlier than Miquon and has lots of inroads for getting kids used to the rods and getting you as an instructor used to the rods. So, Miquon is clearly the superior resource, especially in the long run, but I think it can seem daunting. So... I think some people would really benefit from having a gentle, more modern and accessible introduction to ideas for the rods. That said, if you're sure you're going the Miquon route, just get the Miquon materials and delve in. This is very helpful, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) That Cuisenaire Idea book samples look really pedestrian. Adapting Miquon to use with a 4 year old remains one of the best moves I've ever made. Bill Edited November 17, 2011 by Spy Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 What I needed to know, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nansk Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Do take a look at this free ebook as an intro into the C-rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristenR Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Do take a look at this free ebook as an intro into the C-rods. Yes! This ebook is awesome! And be sure to print out the cards as well. You can see my 2 year old using them here. She would just match the rod to the picture. My 2 year old loves playing with the rods with us. My 4 year old went straight into the Orange book and we haven't looked back since! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Slight thread hijack: I am starting my 2nd grader and my 4 year old in Miquon after Christmas (if I can wait that long!). Would both of them start with orange or would I put the 2nd grader in a different book? TIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Yes! This ebook is awesome! And be sure to print out the cards as well. You can see my 2 year old using them here. She would just match the rod to the picture. My 2 year old loves playing with the rods with us. My 4 year old went straight into the Orange book and we haven't looked back since! :D Excellent, I will definitely print this out! Thanks, nansk and KristenR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Slight thread hijack: I am starting my 2nd grader and my 4 year old in Miquon after Christmas (if I can wait that long!). Would both of them start with orange or would I put the 2nd grader in a different book? TIA. I'd be interested to learn this as well as I have a 2nd grader and a 4 year old also. It might be nice to have them both using the Miquon, if possible, at least in part. Also, if they both did Orange, would each need their own Orange book? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jar7709 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hello, I am wanting to purchase a good C-Rod book to use with my 4 year old, looking for suggestions. I saw this one, wondering if anyone has opinions about it or could recommend another... http://www.christianbook.com/idea-book-cuisenaire-rods-primary-level/9781569117484/pd/7357538?event=CBNETP#curr Also, thinking of possibly using Miquon Orange with her some time soon, and wondered if it is suggested for use with a 4.5 year old. I'm attracted to the discovery oriented approach for her and think it will fit her beautifully---from what I can tell. Thank you! You could try looking for a copy of the Cuisenaire Alphabet Book for your 4yo if the Orange book is too much. It is out of print, but I found a used copy on Amazon, and my DD is enjoying it, it gently gets you working with the rods while practicing letters and little pictures. I plan on moving her up to Orange when we finish it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Bumping for the evening crowd:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I think Miquon is so unique that you would want to start with the orange book... though a 2nd grader might could start with the red book, I suppose. I wouldn't go past that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 I think Miquon is so unique that you would want to start with the orange book... though a 2nd grader might could start with the red book, I suppose. I wouldn't go past that. Thank you! And thank you jar7709 thank you for the Alphabet book recommendation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) Well, I am one of those people that believe that with Miquon and Singapore, you do not just jump in to a level until you have learned the approach. So, even though Adrian finished Horizons 1 last year, I reviewed SM 1A with him and started him with Miquon Orange. We are now cruising our way through Red :) and I am happy that Adrian's conceptual understanding has shot up since using this combo. It was the main reason for the switch. ETA: I am anticipating that by the end of the summer, we should be done with the four Miquon books, saving the other two for grade 3. SM is also smooth sailing now. Edited November 22, 2011 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay3fer Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Slight thread hijack: I am starting my 2nd grader and my 4 year old in Miquon after Christmas (if I can wait that long!). Would both of them start with orange or would I put the 2nd grader in a different book? TIA. I'd buy Orange and Red and use whichever sheets were appropriate for whichever child. Photocopy the sheets so you can reuse them; you may be able to use some of the sheets several times in different ways, esp. with the 4-yo. The 2nd grader may zip through it, but I don't suggest skipping anything that isn't stultifyingly obvious (like filling in a 100-chart). And sometimes, my 6-yo actually wants to do the mind-numbing easy stuff; sometimes, I can't stop her from filling in the hundreds charts. (just like I've given up stopping her from writing her name at the top of every SINGLE page!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I am a mean mom :tongue_smilie:! We started Miquon recently and I started Adrian with the Orange book. I made him do every.single.page! We are now doing the same with red. What can I say! I am a slave driver ;)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Well, I am one of those people that believe that with Miquon and Singapore, you do not just jump in to a level until you have learned the approach. So, even though Adrian finished Horizons 1 last year, I reviewed SM 1A with him and started him with Miquon Orange. We are now cruising our way through Red :) and I am happy that Adrian's conceptual understanding has shot up since using this combo. It was the main reason for the switch. ETA: I am anticipating that by the end of the summer, we should be done with the four Miquon books, saving the other two for grade 3. SM is also smooth sailing now. Marie, Thanks very much for your input on this. My feeling was that starting at the beginning with Miquon would be the best approach, thank you for confirming this. Glad to hear your SM/Miquon combo is proving to be very beneficial. I'll talk with you soon : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Marie, Thanks very much for your input on this. My feeling was that starting at the beginning with Miquon would be the best approach, thank you for confirming this. Glad to hear your SM/Miquon combo is proving to be very beneficial. I'll talk with you soon : ) You're welcome :)! You know what I always say! This is what worked in our home ;). I would rather start him from the beginning now and ensure he has the conceptual understanding he will need later, than to let him base his knowledge on memorization, without "getting it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaMinNC Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 MFW sells the cuisenaire alphabet book, if you are looking for it. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabi Sabi Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 FYI, if you're using Miquon with more than one child you might be interested to know that you can buy it in PDF form at CurrClick. I wish I'd known that before I bought all the books for my first child and now will have to repurchase them for my younger daughter. Would've been much easier and cheaper to have the ability to print the pages as needed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Great, thank you Melissa and Wabi Sabi, good to know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I would check the cost of having the pages printed vs. the cost of buying the books. I know I did and for me, it was cheaper buying them printed from Rainbow. If you can print them cheaper than buying them printed, then it is definitely worth considering :)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 The books are so cheap that I do wonder if it is worth printing them oneself. And I sort of like the one-color old-fashioned quality of the books vs laser printer, etc. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 The books are so cheap that I do wonder if it is worth printing them oneself. And I sort of like the one-color old-fashioned quality of the books vs laser printer, etc. Bill :iagree: I like that too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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