Trilliums Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 First, one of my kids applied to a sports related leadership program. During his interview, the main instructor said his only concern was that since DS was home schooled, he had been around adults more and had a higher degree of honesty. Public schooled kids, he went on to say, learn to lie at a very early age. He was concerned that DS would struggle with this as he had to basically accept a certain level of lying from the kids. The instructor said several time, in a crowded rec center, that public school kids learn to lie and lie frequently. Also, I started leading a group of kids in a very goal specific activity. The group is about half home schooled kids and half public school kids. The majority of my time is spent trying to get the ps kids under control. The hs kids are focused and productive. I am honestly stunned by the difference. I do think this is partially because the hs kids are there because they want to be, and the ps kids are more ambivalent about the group...but still, I sometimes literally feel my jaw dropping down in shock. Am I a sheltered home schooling mom??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatmansWife Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I find his comments surprising too......I'm surprised that he noted/recognized the difference. Sheltering?? I don't think so. Sheltering isn't necessarily a bad thing either. If "sheltering" results in my kids being honest, under control, focused and productive....then I welcome being called a "sheltering home schooling mom". I guess it's all in how you look at it. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeaganS Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I think that is odd too. As for the kids at your activity, could it be because they have spent their entire day being couped up in a classroom and they are pretty antsy by the time they get to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita in NC Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 My son recently took a driver's ed class. There were about 40 students in the class. Some of the students were homeschooled and some were tracked out from the local private school. DS said that the kids from the private school constantly spoke with each other while the teacher was lecturing. That the kids had their cell phones out texting and stuff. He said they were very disrespectful and the teacher even threaten to throw them out of the class. DS said the homeschooled students were quiet and respectful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mothersweets Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 My son recently took a driver's ed class. There were about 40 students in the class. Some of the students were homeschooled and some were tracked out from the local private school. DS said that the kids from the private school constantly spoke with each other while the teacher was lecturing. That the kids had their cell phones out texting and stuff. He said they were very disrespectful and the teacher even threaten to throw them out of the class. DS said the homeschooled students were quiet and respectful. :iagree:This has been our experience as well. It was even more pronounced when my older kids took their driver's ed course in our local "big city". It wasn't as bad when the younger ones took their course in our little town. I really feel for teachers, driver's ed instructors, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilliums Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 It has also made me feel much more sympathy towards teachers. Makes me *almost* understand how they can become kinda crabby and such strict enforcers. Our group meets on weekends, so it may be released energy after being in school all week, but for the most part they just don't seem to care about paying attention or doing any of the projects. It has been disappointing for the kids who DO care. The disruptive kids drag the whole group down to their level. My kids and I did discuss lying a lot as a result of the instructor's comments. I think my kids realized a few things about the pressures on can encounter in a school setting. And, we did see some humor in it. DS #2 said, "Mom, turns out we are failing to learn social skills by home schooling! How will we cope without being able to lie??" But, sadly enough, we did reflect that too often in our society the liars seem to benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-rap Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 As far as the first issue you brought up... I think that is totally bizarre! My kids have been involved in ps activities and courses over the years, and have never run into that attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimeeM Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Perhaps I'm the odd man out here. I think it is absolutely necessary to be able to lie in certain situations. Honesty is wonderful and admirable; but sometimes certain situations call for a lie. Period. When my children are younger, we start with the "truth at all costs"; but as they age and develop the ability to become rational, discriminating little creatures, they are taught (perhaps "taught" is the wrong word here) to lie as a model of kindness and compassion in certain situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 First, one of my kids applied to a sports related leadership program. During his interview, the main instructor said his only concern was that since DS was home schooled, he had been around adults more and had a higher degree of honesty. Public schooled kids, he went on to say, learn to lie at a very early age. He was concerned that DS would struggle with this as he had to basically accept a certain level of lying from the kids. The instructor said several time, in a crowded rec center, that public school kids learn to lie and lie frequently. (snip)?? :confused: blink. :confused: blink. :confused: it sounds like the coach thinks learning to lie at an early age is a good thing? :confused: there are segments of society where kids learn to lie - it's not because they're in public school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 That's an odd comment. I was public schooled and I never "learned" to lie. I'm a terrible liar. I'm also somewhat naive when people are lying. Since it's something that doesn't come naturally to me, I just assume everyone is being truthful :glare:. I really think dishonesty comes naturally to certain people, whether they are home, public, or privately schooled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I find those kinds of stereotyping statements to be unproductive. I've taught Sunday school at our church for more years than I can remember off the top of my head and I've had exemplary kids from homeschools, private schools, and public schools, and kids who were rude, disrespectful, etc. (for the first two weeks, LOL!) from homeschools, private schools, and public schools. (By the third week, they know the rules. There are some from each group, though, that I've had to ride all year.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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