twoforjoy Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) I don't know if the problem is the pencils, my DS, or my expectations, but it seems to me that the number of broken pencil tips we deal with each day cannot be normal. So, a poll. Edited November 3, 2011 by twoforjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailorMom Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 LOL.... mine aren't elementary anymore, but geez - it must have been 5 or 6 times back then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrappyhomeschooler Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I found that if I spend a little more money and buy the Ticonderoga pencils, they aren't as easy to break the tips. If they use a different kind of pencil, they snap the tips off about every 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Broken tips? Not a problem here. Of course, it is very hard to break pencil tips when all of the pencils are lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tap Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 None, to a rare one. Sorry, but it isn't an issue here. We use Black Warrior pencils and a good quality sharpener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We have more of an issue with dull pencil tips than broken pencil tips. We are at the pencil sharpener several times a day to refresh tips, but not because they are broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We've only used Ticonderoga pencils, so DS usually doesn't have an issue with broken tips....happens rarely, maybe once a month? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsAlimar Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I'm not sure how to answer because it depends on the type of pencil she is using. If she is using a mechanical pencil she can be snapping tips all over the place. If it's a regular pencil then she only snaps it when it is first sharpened. My dd presses too hard and so duller pencils seem to work better because they can take the pressure without breaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elise1mds Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We use the good pencils (Ticonderoga, etc.) but still have at least one or two broken tips per day. DS is dysgraphic and no matter what I do or demonstrate or encourage, he still pushes way too hard. However, having an electric pencil sharpener has definitely lessened the frustration that used to come when a tip broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElaineJ Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Yes, this drives me crazy! I voted 5+. So is there a certain of pencil that reduces this problem? We waste so much time sharpening pencils and cleaning up the shavings off the schoolroom floor. :glare: Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterflymommy Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We get the broken tips and "vanished" pencils. How can the durn thing DISAPPEAR when they kid hasn't even gotten out of their seat? Do they eat pencils or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellyndria Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I found when I was younger, that if I sharpened the pencils until they were super sharp, that the tips broke much more easily. So now when I sharpen pencils, I stop just before they are super sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I buy the black Ticonderogas and my son still breaks the tips multiple times a day. We use a white board as often as possible because I get so tired of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2att Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I have a pencil breaker/dropper/loser. He also regularly breaks off the eraser, which we replace with a cap eraser, and then I have to constantly remind him to keep the cap out of his mouth. He's 8, and I am hoping he will grow out of these difficulties some day. With my other children it was not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomsintheGarden Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We use the Ticonderoga pencils (large pack from Costco) and don't have too much of a problem with broken tips. I voted 1-2x/day. What I do have a problem with are dc rolling their pencils back and forth on the table. GAH! That makes me nuts! When Reg and I are old, and all the children are gone, we will find the land of the lost pencils. I'm sure of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyej Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Strategies: Good quality pencils (cheap pencils make life difficult), a decent sharpener, don't over-sharpen... With a very young child, pushing too hard and breaking the point occasionally is just something that's going to happen, but it'll happen less often with good quality pencils that aren't over-sharpened. If the pencil tips are breaking inside the wood and falling out, it's either because of poorly made pencils or even okay pencils that have been dropped too many times. If the point is just breaking off while writing, it's too-sharp pencil plus too much pressure in writing. I would expect too much pressure / occasional breakage from pre-K through first grade. 2nd for a child with fine motor challenges. I would consider a 3rd-grader+ who broke pencil tips more than once in a blue moon to be showing carelessness or even intentionally disrupting the school day, and I would respond accordingly. (This assumes, of course, good pencils, decent sharpener, and the child has been taught how to sharpen to a reasonable point.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisemomof4 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I want to say 5,000 but I'm wondering if that might be a slight exaggeration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisemomof4 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Broken tips? Not a problem here. Of course, it is very hard to break pencil tips when all of the pencils are lost. oh, I answered and voted wrong! (voted 5 - 6) THIS is much more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara in Colo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We switched to the expensive Papermate re-fillable mechanical penciles with .9mm lead---no breakage, but I keep VERY tight controll over the wherabouts of said pencils! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovin Learnin Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We stick to mechanical pencils. If/when the lead breaks I'm never aware of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeemama Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We have more of an issue with dull pencil tips than broken pencil tips. We are at the pencil sharpener several times a day to refresh tips, but not because they are broken. :iagree:This is how is goes in our house...usually just with my son... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateLeft Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It's an issue for us this year, because I bought cheap pencils from the office supply store, instead of the higher quality pencils I usually buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwjx2khsmj Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I thought that buying mechanical pencils would help with the broken tips/pencil sharpener issues that seemed to take up so much time in our school day. You'd be amazed at how quickly those skinny little leads can break and the whole pencil emptied of lead. We are back to regular pencils and a manual pencil sharpener. I'm hoping that removing the electric sharpener will take the fun out (and the noise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justasque Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I've found cheap pencils break more often. To limit pencil interruptions in general, I bought a huge box of quality pencils and sharpened all of them. I keep them in a cylindrical tin that once held those lovely Pirouette cookies. (I think they are Pepperidge Farm? They come in flavors like chocolate hazelnut. They are long thin sticks, about twice the thickness of a pencil; the cookie is wrapped around the filling. Lovely and elegant with a scoop of ice cream.) I simply put the tin on the table when we are doing school, or during my math class, and if a pencil fails the student takes a new one and moves on. Now and again we re-sharpen all of the pencils. When we tidy the house, all pencils go back in the tin. So the answer: Lots of quality pencils, already sharpened, plus chocolate. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 None, to a rare one. Sorry, but it isn't an issue here. We use Black Warrior pencils and a good quality sharpener. :iagree: Love the Black Warriors. Our problem is dropping the pencil on the floor. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punks in Ontario Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It happens, but not too often. We keep a cup of pencils on the table so they only have to pick up a new pencil if theirs is too dull or broken. That way it won't be an excuse for dawdling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginszoo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 1-2 per elementary child per day. Then the older ones will have them every few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrumm4448 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We use Ticonderogas and they don't break much. I am also prepared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmoe Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Broken tips? Not a problem here. Of course, it is very hard to break pencil tips when all of the pencils are lost. LOL! We can find pencils--just not the pencil sharpener! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy_kid_wrangler04 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 All. day. long First I thought it was the pencils I bought. So I threw them all away (a TON of pencils) then bought all new ones. Now I think its a way of stalling :toetap05: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy_kid_wrangler04 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We use Ticonderogas and they don't break much. I am also prepared. You can't have curriculum in your pictures and not tell us what it is. My eyes are tired of straining. Spill it :toetap05: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvasMom Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I'm really tempted to post a follow-up thread asking how many times a day your child drops his/her pencil. Aye aye aye. Drives me nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepyl Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We get one or two a week. I expect more when he gets bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepyl Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I'm really tempted to post a follow-up thread asking how many times a day your child drops his/her pencil. Aye aye aye. Drives me nuts. This happens more than broken pencils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingnlearning Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I'm really tempted to post a follow-up thread asking how many times a day your child drops his/her pencil. Aye aye aye. Drives me nuts. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rain Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We might have one broken lead a week. We mostly use Black Warrior pencils and a hand crank vacuum mount pencil sharpener. My 7yo used to break mechanical pencil lead like crazy. I switched her to pencils that use .7 or .9 lead. It made a HUGE difference! 10 yo Dd can use .5 lead without trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I love these pencils: http://www.amazon.com/Recycled-Graphite-Newspaper-Newsprint-40-Pack/dp/B0044U8BFS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320345459&sr=8-2 o'bon Anyone tried them in a homeschool/all day setting? I'm gifting some to my sister;'s kids this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessReplanted Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I voted 1-2, but really, it doesn't happen often. We seem to have more of an issue with keeping the pencils sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyD Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Don't even get me started about pencils. Between the breaking, and the dropping, and the dropping, and the sharpening, and then the pencil is too short to use ....and did I mention the dropping? I bought a giant box of those Handwriting Without Tears short pencils, but I'm starting to think that maybe something else would be in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I've found cheap pencils break more often. To limit pencil interruptions in general, I bought a huge box of quality pencils and sharpened all of them. I keep them in a cylindrical tin that once held those lovely Pirouette cookies. (I think they are Pepperidge Farm? They come in flavors like chocolate hazelnut. They are long thin sticks, about twice the thickness of a pencil; the cookie is wrapped around the filling. Lovely and elegant with a scoop of ice cream.) I simply put the tin on the table when we are doing school, or during my math class, and if a pencil fails the student takes a new one and moves on. Now and again we re-sharpen all of the pencils. When we tidy the house, all pencils go back in the tin. So the answer: Lots of quality pencils, already sharpened, plus chocolate. :D Those are the BEST! You can forget all your pencil troubles if you have a tin of those!:D Don't even get me started about pencils. Between the breaking, and the dropping, and the dropping, and the sharpening, and then the pencil is too short to use ....and did I mention the dropping? This is how I figure it: every time ds drops a pencil, it costs me time. My time is worth money (in my mind, anyway), so he has to pay me every time a pencil leaves the table. He doesn't drop his pencil any more. It's a Miracle! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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