2nd grader and Phonics

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I am just now re-starting my dd's school year with some tried and true materials, like PLL, R&S Spelling, and FIAR.

 

My dd reads at about a 4th grade level, and did Adventures in Phonics A, finished Phonics Pathways and then completed MCP Phonics B.

 

Should I add in a phonics workbook for her? Does R&S Phonics 2 correlate with Spelling by Sound and Structure?

 

I don't think it's really necessary, but I know my evaluater thinks every second grader needs phonics, regardless of their reading and decoding ability.

 

Also, FWIW as you make suggestions, my dd does not sound out well when she gets to three syllable words she doesn't know. She is more likely to fudge it on the pronunciation but get the meaning correct through context. Something that works on longer syllable words might actually be useful.

[Chelli]

I would do something like Webster's Speller. It teaches how to break down words into chunks so that any word can be decoded no matter how long it is (I believe I'm right on this!). Here is the website:

 

http://www.thephonicspage.org/index.html

 

I am going to have my dd7 work through this as well for 2nd grade just to make sure we have those phonics down cold!!! There are different schedules on the website so you can choose how fast/slow to have your dc go through the lessons. HTH.

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Thanks I will check into that. I remember seeing that website long ago. It's very nice.

[momofabcd]

I say, until she can decode words on a 12th grade level, continue phonics. Webster's looks promising, ElizabethB has some syllable division exercises to go with it and Blend Phonics, but have you thought about Adventures in Phonics Level C? I saw you gave a very favorable review of AiP on another board.:001_smile:

[susankenny]

Based on what you've shared, I would use Hooked on Phonics Master Reader. It specifically focuses on syllables and assumes the child already knows how to read well. R&S Phonics 2 is still focusing on basic letter sounds, blends, etc. You can find Master Reader used for fairly cheap. It is computer based. You do one short lesson each day, followed by a reading card. There are 4 levels, and when each level is complete you read a chapter book. It's excellent, easy, and I especially love that there is no writing.

 

Susan

[Chris in VA]

We used AiP C in second grade. My dd had made a tremendous leap in reading ability the previous year, and needed to slow down and pick up some phonics knowledge. It was a little challenging to her, but GREAT. There's a whole section on syllibication--division of syllables, too--that's wonderful. The writing lines are small, but that made her do the work carefully. Can't recommend it highly enough.

[Ellie]

But if she reads on a fourth-grade level, how is it that she stumbles on longer words? :confused:

 

My recommendation would be Spalding. It will fill in any gaps in her reading and spelling ability, seamlessly. It will be everything a 7yo needs for English skills: reading, spelling, penmanship, capitalization and punctuation, simple writing.

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Lots of great ideas. That's why I popped in over here...always so many ideas!

 

Yes I am a huge fan of AIP! I'm Not sure why I didn't think of using level C. It's so affordable too. Great idea. I'm going to look into that and take a peek at Master Reader.

 

Ellie, I know...Spaulding does seem great but ya know...I'm lazy. If my dd is already reading and she is a natural speller I can't see going through the learning curve for Spaulding. Heck, I couldn't see that learning curve ever...unless of course one of my dc had a disability or something... ;)

 

Thanks a bunch.

[SnowWhite]

My second grader is doing Explode the Code 6. It works for us. ;)

[Ellie]

Ellie, I know...Spaulding does seem great but ya know...I'm lazy. If my dd is already reading and she is a natural speller I can't see going through the learning curve for Spaulding. Heck, I couldn't see that learning curve ever...unless of course one of my dc had a disability or something... ;)

 

Thanks a bunch.

::psst:: Spalding, not Spaulding. :D

 

You said:

FWIW as you make suggestions, my dd does not sound out well when she gets to three syllable words she doesn't know. She is more likely to fudge it on the pronunciation but get the meaning correct through context. Something that works on longer syllable words might actually be useful.

Hence my suggesting Spalding. It doesn't sound as if she's reading as well as she might be. And Spalding isn't only about spelling; it teaches children to read by teaching them to spell. See the difference?

 

But I totally understand the learning curve thing, although truly, it isn't as bad as you seem to think it is. :001_smile:

[ElizabethB]

Here are my syllable division exercises:

 

http://www.thephonicspage.org/On%20Reading/howtotutor.html

 

I also really like Webster's Speller! In your case, I recommend the 1908 version, it has more reading selections.

 

I also like Marcia Henry's Words, it combines phonics, spelling, syllable division, and root study.

 

http://www.proedinc.com/customer/productView.aspx?id=989

 

Megawords also combines syllable work with spelling, although it does not have an explicit phonics portion.

[lamolina]

ElizabethB- I like the idea of using Webster's Speller, but when looking through it at donpotter.net, I guess I have a hard time understanding how I will actually implement it with my 5 year old! Any suggestions or tips you could give would be great!! I would also like to use it with my 7 year old who reads well, but I notice she sometimes guesses with longer words.

 

Thanks!

[ElizabethB]

ElizabethB- I like the idea of using Webster's Speller, but when looking through it at donpotter.net, I guess I have a hard time understanding how I will actually implement it with my 5 year old! Any suggestions or tips you could give would be great!! I would also like to use it with my 7 year old who reads well, but I notice she sometimes guesses with longer words.

 

Thanks!

 

Here is how I used it last year with my son, he was 5 then:

 

http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208407

 

Also, here are some threads about using it with an older child:

 

http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216114

 

http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97408