Dolphin Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I was reading my newest issue of TOS. I know it is conservative Christian, and some articles I don't agree with. I thought it was a good magazine with a lot of good resources about homeschool. This month they have introduced a new regular column by the author of the whistlerblower, and it is very political. I will not be renewing my subscription, I do not want to be reading about how black liberation is a revolutionary idea when learning about curriculum. Just my 2 cents (and I am sure that some people will disagree), but other than politics that directly have to do with homeschooling don't seem like they should be in a homeschooling magazine. Any recommendations for a new magazine as I will not financially support anything that might be financially supporting the Tea Party.:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannanlee Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Practical Homeschooling is a good magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Shoot. I will not renew either. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 This is my NUMBER ONE GRIPE about so much in the homeschooling community now! Why, why, why must everyone think we all need to be told how to dress, what to read, how to worship...or not, how to vote, how to think, how to eat, and on and on ad nauseum??? If I pay for homeschooling resources, I want to know about academics and learning styles and MAYBE organizing all my crap (.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily_Grace Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I dropped TOS when I realized they proudly support the Pearls. Not my cuppa, not what I want to be reading in a homeschool magazine. I much preferred the content of Secular Homeschooling. Straight up school talk and nothing but. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 I was petrified clicking to see what the responses would be. I am glad I am not the only one out there. Thank you for the magazine recommendation, I will look at that one. I think it just got to me. Yes, I am Christian, yes I home school, however it rubs me the wrong way to try and tell me which political party I should support. I do want to clarify, I am not slamming the Tea Party, I just don't want to support it as it is not my political affiliation, I don't want a political party assumed as I home school. I think that the way they American Political system works is interesting. If enough people believe the same way, the can organize a party. At election time, the ones with the most votes get to lead for four years. No problem with that. I just don't like how people slip something political in, where it just does not need to be. We are all bright people who can make up our own minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I feel the way I feel about it whether I *agree* with the position presented or not. Homeschoolers are B.I.G. B.U.S.I.N.E.S.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Hey Dolphin :) I think I asked you already... but we're in Salem and you're not around here, right? I didn't think so... but...I have an 8 year old son and couldn't help but make sure :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Which article is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 This is my NUMBER ONE GRIPE about so much in the homeschooling community now! Why, why, why must everyone think we all need to be told how to dress, what to read, how to worship...or not, how to vote, how to think, how to eat, and on and on ad nauseum??? If I pay for homeschooling resources, I want to know about academics and learning styles and MAYBE organizing all my crap (.). :iagree: I dropped TOS when I realized they proudly support the Pearls. Not my cuppa, not what I want to be reading in a homeschool magazine. I much preferred the content of Secular Homeschooling. Straight up school talk and nothing but. I agree with the first bit, haven't tried the magazine, but maybe I should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoVanGogh Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I thought Secular Homeschooler went out of business earlier this year? It was a great magazine. I loved that it was really focused on homeschooling and nothing else. I dropped my subscription to TOS a few years back because I didn't like the majority of their content. And I consider myself to be a conservative Christian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Which article is this? It's the new Current Events column by David Kupelian on page 34. (If you don't subscribe, you can see the current issue online here.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It's the new Current Events column by David Kupelian on page 34. (If you don't subscribe, you can see the current issue online here.) Lenin next to the Statue of Liberty! :lol: Yup, the only two choices on earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) It's the new Current Events column by David Kupelian on page 34. (If you don't subscribe, you can see the current issue online here.) Thank you. Wow. :001_huh: Not expecting that with my homeschool info! Edited August 7, 2011 by Mommy22alyns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It's the new Current Events column by David Kupelian on page 34. (If you don't subscribe, you can see the current issue online here.) Wow. I couldn't even make myself finish it. (I am, uh, not really that Conservative. ;)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catz Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Shoot. I will not renew either. Thanks for posting. Yikes - I picked this up now and again. I guess I won't anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannanlee Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 That article was a lot biased garbage along with being very uneducated. Shame on TOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kchara Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Wow, thanks for the heads up. I was going to renew my subscription (I had let it lapse, so I didn't get this issue), but now I think I'll pass. I am conservative, politically and religiously, but I don't particularly want to hear politics when I'm looking for encouragment and ideas for homeschooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeannpal Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I haven't read that magazine. thanks for the heads up. I take it that the magazine is really ultra conservative? I'm a Christian but not very conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DianeW88 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I've always liked The Link. I haven't read an issue in awhile, but from what I remember, they were secular. Great ads, too! http://www.homeschoolnewslink.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyD Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 As one of the pp said, as far as I know Secular Homeschooling is out of business. I was a subscriber and liked it well enough, if mostly for the (very thorough) book reviews. I also get Home Education Magazine, but I'm not crazy about it -- it seems quite oriented towards unschoolers, so there isn't nearly as much about the nitty-gritty of homeschooling as I would like. Again, though, Rebecca Rupp writes a (IMO) very good product/book review column for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Why not write an email to TOS, and express you opinion on the article? I have not read the latest issue yet, so I can't comment on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momtothreeboys Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) I was reading my newest issue of TOS. I know it is conservative Christian, and some articles I don't agree with. I thought it was a good magazine with a lot of good resources about homeschool. This month they have introduced a new regular column by the author of the whistlerblower, and it is very political. I will not be renewing my subscription, I do not want to be reading about how black liberation is a revolutionary idea when learning about curriculum. Just my 2 cents (and I am sure that some people will disagree), but other than politics that directly have to do with homeschooling don't seem like they should be in a homeschooling magazine. Any recommendations for a new magazine as I will not financially support anything that might be financially supporting the Tea Party.:confused: Read that article. Threw the magazine out and emailed a letter expressing my total dislike to that racist (to me anyways) article and asked that they not send me anymore issues. Edited August 7, 2011 by momtothreeboys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 Why not write an email to TOS, and express you opinion on the article? I have not read the latest issue yet, so I can't comment on it. I have. I have also asked that they not send me anything further, even any other magazines that are left on my subscription. Here is the letter from the publisher talking about the article. and Here is the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeannpal Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I have. I have also asked that they not send me anything further, even any other magazines that are left on my subscription. Here is the letter from the publisher talking about the article. and Here is the article. Wow! Providential history at its worst. So much of what he wrote is garbage to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abreakfromlife Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Ugh. I probably won't be renewing either. My copy is still sitting in the plastic wrap. I almost started a thread about them a couple of months ago when I got a previous issue. I got TOS a few years ago, for a couple of years, and then dropped it. And then got suckered in with one of their special deals so the mag was super cheap. The last couple of issues I've noticed a lot of 'keep them home where they belong' stuff and that really rubs me the wrong way. I was wondering if that was a newer stance that they've chosen to talk more about, or if it was always there and just didn't bother me a few years ago??? Either way, it's annoying, and their emails drive me up the wall. I send them to my spam folder now because they are always selling something and it's always over the top subject lines and it drives me crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I had not seen this before. Thanks for the links. You guys know that I am silent about politics. Helping parents teach their kids is my passion. The home school world is so politicized already that, were I to be open about my politics, I'd run the risk of driving off parents who would otherwise find my work helpful. That's my decision; it might not be yours, were you in my shoes. However. I am also passionate about history. And about understanding the past properly. This guy is obviously affected by a family trauma, and I'm sorry about this. But I'm kind of appalled by the publication of this article in an educational magazine, because it is so filled with jaw-droppingly inaccurate statements. A "civil war"? Really? Anyone know anything about the real Civil War, and what it did to our country? Whatever you think of our culture's current state, making a verbal parallel between our century and the horrific destruction of the Civil War is indefensible. And you notice he doesn't defend it. He just states it and then assumes he's proved it (a logical fallacy, BTW--see the "History" chapter of TWEM if you're curious). The fifties an "innocent time" without "much divorce" in which "everyone loved Christmas" and "America was prosperious, strong, and unified"? Are you KIDDING ME? Sure, unless you were black (like my adopted sister). Or Japanese-American. Or one of the poor white women whose doctor decided to sterilize her without her knowledge as a eugenic precaution (actual story from MY COUNTY, circa 1955). Yeah. Innocent. Anyone who can, with a straight face, list all the liberation movements, Supreme Court decisions, and "upsurges" that he does, while pretending that he's established some sort of cause and effect relationship, has NO idea how to think about historical causality, let alone how to demonstrate it. And wait (this is NOT a political statement, by the way, it's an observation on his method)-- the "cult of personality" surrounding Obama is tragically destructive, but the JKF era was a shining time of hope and promise? Anybody see the disconnect? Oh, and by the way: Communism, Marxism, and socialism are not identical. That was History 101. If TOS chooses to run political columns, whatever. They'll drive away people who dislike that political party, and attract those who do. But to publish this disconnected and illogical piece in an education magazine--that I find discouraging, disheartening, and alienating. Here endeth the lesson. And if you happen to have a copy of TWEM on your bookshelf, go look up the section on "logic-stage reading" and what questions to ask of your history books. And compare it to this column. SWB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitilin Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I LOVE SWB!!!:001_wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I LOVE SWB!!!:001_wub: :iagree::iagree::iagree: LOVE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I LOVE SWB!!!:001_wub: :iagree: Awesome post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I thought this was going to be about sex somehow (tea!) and wondered what the heck the connection was gonna be. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Wow, that's disappointing. I subscribed last fall because I heard Aubrey had an article coming up in one of the issues. I also love to read all the ads to see what's new in the hs curriculum world. Do you suppose they'd retire the column if enough people wrote to complain? Sometimes folks with the best of intentions get sidetracked and can be persuaded to rethink their direction when others gently point out to them where they erred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarenM Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I actually just got my copy in the mail and read it today. Quite appalled:iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Do you all think this sort of thing will happen more frequently until there is an actual schism in the community? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 I thought this was going to be about sex somehow (tea!) and wondered what the heck the connection was gonna be. :tongue_smilie: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: I to love SWB. Thank you for responding in such a clear way. You responses inspire me to keep my cool and post in a responsible way. I have to say that you have all really lifted me up today. I felt sick when I read the article this morning, so I had to say something. I went back and forth a little as I was worried (from experiences on other boards) that I would be slammed for posting about this. It has just reconfirmed to me that like I have a church "home", this is my homeschool support "home". Intelligent people, discussing a controversial topic. No one has been rude to anyone. Thank you. I have been experiencing a lot of negativity lately because I am a homeschooler. I sat down this morning to lift myself up. I thoroughly enjoyed this article in TOS. I read it first and it made me feel better about my choice to home school my children. Then I read the civil war article.... Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nicole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I dropped it a few years ago when it came out they supported the Pearls. There was no way I would continue with that magazine after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The fifties an "innocent time" without "much divorce" in which "everyone loved Christmas" and "America was prosperious, strong, and unified"? Are you KIDDING ME? Sure, unless you were black (like my adopted sister). Or Japanese-American. Or one of the poor white women whose doctor decided to sterilize her without her knowledge as a eugenic precaution (actual story from MY COUNTY, circa 1955). Yeah. Innocent. SWB This is the part that stuck out to my less educated self. The 50s a time of innocence? Perhaps he is stuck in romanticizing the era. The 50s, before civil rights? The 50s when my mother (who grew up poor in the country) had to work full time and have her own apartment in town just to finish HIGH SCHOOL. The 50s when white, straight men ran the country? Sure, the blame the Beatles, it's all their fault. :svengo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Sure, the blame the Beatles, it's all their fault. :svengo: :lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The Queen speaks and she rules!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The Queen speaks and she rules!! Long live the Queen! Huzzah! :biggrinjester: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Here endeth the lesson. And if you happen to have a copy of TWEM on your bookshelf, go look up the section on "logic-stage reading" and what questions to ask of your history books. And compare it to this column. SWB Might actually make for an interesting assignment for some of the older kids. I would hope though that the column would lose even the readers who are on the same political wavelength as the author of the column but might be embarrassed by how he and TOS choose to represent their views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Susan, it is often amazing to me that logic and published authors often seem to be strangers to one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I was reading my newest issue of TOS. I know it is conservative Christian, and some articles I don't agree with. I thought it was a good magazine with a lot of good resources about homeschool. This month they have introduced a new regular column by the author of the whistlerblower, and it is very political. I will not be renewing my subscription, I do not want to be reading about how black liberation is a revolutionary idea when learning about curriculum. Just my 2 cents (and I am sure that some people will disagree), but other than politics that directly have to do with homeschooling don't seem like they should be in a homeschooling magazine. Any recommendations for a new magazine as I will not financially support anything that might be financially supporting the Tea Party.:confused: It's my opinion that there are several organizations that support home schooling as a tool to grow more support for their political and social agenda. I haven't read TOS, so I can't comment on its bias, but I am not surprised at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelwydd Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Ok, just read the article and the publisher's note. What a sad piece of anti-intellectual drivel. Goes to show that it's not just the public educational institutions producing irrational thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrumm4448 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I was petrified clicking to see what the responses would be. I am glad I am not the only one out there. Thank you for the magazine recommendation, I will look at that one. I think it just got to me. Yes, I am Christian, yes I home school, however it rubs me the wrong way to try and tell me which political party I should support. I do want to clarify, I am not slamming the Tea Party, I just don't want to support it as it is not my political affiliation, I don't want a political party assumed as I home school. I think that the way they American Political system works is interesting. If enough people believe the same way, the can organize a party. At election time, the ones with the most votes get to lead for four years. No problem with that. I just don't like how people slip something political in, where it just does not need to be. We are all bright people who can make up our own minds. Just to clarify, the Tea Party is NOT a political party. It is a grassroots movement. It is filled with Democrats, Republicans, Independents and Green Party people who are united by one principle: fiscal responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Just to clarify, the Tea Party is NOT a political party. It is a grassroots movement. It is filled with Democrats, Republicans, Independents and Green Party people who are united by one principle: fiscal responsibility. Grassroots movements, by definition, are not funded by multimillion dollar companies. http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tea_Party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I don't read Old Schoolhouse Magazine because they have advertised and have articles endorsing the Pearls. (hitting with sticks) Yuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 *I have decided to try and behave** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenjenn Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) It is not a grass-roots movement, it is bought and paid for by the Koch brothers, with FOX "News" acting as its propaganda wing. I was actually involved with the tea party movement as part of its grassroots inception. I attended the first tea party demonstration in our region on tax day. And it absolutely was, a grassroots movement. I was there, at the roots, volunteering my time was a graphic designer. No one was paying me. No one was paying for the printing (it was donated by a local printing company). I was communicating with our "leader" who was a college-aged young woman, unpaid. Whatever services and resources needed were donated or provided by volunteers like myself. I have since disassociated from the tea-party movement as it has become increasingly seized as a Republican movement on the national scene, but I can tell you with some degree of certitude having *been there at the source* that this was not some sort of FOX News hatched movement at its inception, and in some localities at least (such as mine) it continues to be an unfunded movement run by volunteers. I know them. However, I think it is disingenuous to say there tea party has Democrats as part of the movement. If they are there, they are an extreme minority. Republicans, Libertarians, and independents, yes. Edited August 8, 2011 by zenjenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Woa! What is "Animal Liberation" and is this one of those things I don't want to hear about? That article is one of the craziest things I have ever read. I did read Helter Skelter by the way. Edited August 8, 2011 by Sis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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