Carpe Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I had not heard this until now. And I didn't read anything but the first post, so sorry if I'm restating something someone else has said. My first thought was to be happy, and then to be disgusted with myself for being happy at anyone's death. I want a world in which people do not need to be killed, no person, and that world can not contain people celebrating the death of others. I'm having very serious mixed feelings about it. As a military goal it's the best news in the last decade, but I can't accept the idea that we should celebrate deaths. No matter how awful the person, I don't feel murder should be praised. It was a necessary evil. And it's very unfortunate that these things are still necessary. Ugh, I don't even know what I'm getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I had not heard this until now. And I didn't read anything but the first post, so sorry if I'm restating something someone else has said. My first thought was to be happy, and then to be disgusted with myself for being happy at anyone's death. I want a world in which people do not need to be killed, no person, and that world can not contain people celebrating the death of others. I'm having very serious mixed feelings about it. As a military goal it's the best news in the last decade, but I can't accept the idea that we should celebrate deaths. No matter how awful the person, I don't feel murder should be praised. It was a necessary evil. And it's very unfortunate that these things are still necessary. Ugh, I don't even know what I'm getting at. I understand, it is difficult to imagine being happy at the death of another human being. However we also know that the world is likely a better place without that person in it. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Can't imagine Obama would announce it was today when it wasn't.:iagree: As I said above, pre-speech "facts" were characterized by the on-air talkers at MSNBC as being leaks from congressional staffers (members of Congress were called prior to the speech). Doubters might be interested in this: Local man apparently live-tweeted Osama mansion raid It contains a link to the gentleman's twitter feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 This is funny http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20058790-281.html?ttag=fbw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I should have read Moria's post before posting *sheepish* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanchGirl Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I've been watching the news only for the last few hours since after President Obama's speech and I haven't heard anyone say it was last week. They did say the raid was planned last week, maybe that is the confusion? That would jive with the President saying he gave final go-ahead today. The reporters are also mentioning photo-analysis identification, but not saying anything about DNA confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 This is funny http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20058790-281.html?ttag=fbw They've collected the lot of them. :) ETA: Oops, I spoke too soon. I hope someone integrates all the tweets from these guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanchGirl Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 :iagree: As I said above, pre-speech "facts" were characterized by the on-air talkers at MSNBC as being leaks from congressional staffers (members of Congress were called prior to the speech). Doubters might be interested in this: Local man apparently live-tweeted Osama mansion raid It contains a link to the gentleman's twitter feed. That is kinda of cute; he's witnessing history and he's annoyed that his sleep is being interrupted, likening the helicopter to a mosquito buzzing around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I should have read Moria's post before posting *sheepish*Not at all, mine is just the one guy. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mama Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 . I would love to see a thread in praise of our country, our military and our intelligence community go by without nasty commentary from sore losers. This is bigger than you. Yes. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Geek Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Mrs. Mungo, I know we don't agree on a lot but I would like to say thank you to you and your family for your military service. I would also like to thank all the others who serve our country in the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrappyhomeschooler Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I've only read a few of the posts. I don't know how to feel or what to think. I cannot celebrate the killing of anyone, even someone as warped as Osama bin Laden. I am grateful for the military and believe that brutal actions are necessary at times to prevent even more brutality, and I respect them for doing a difficult and dangerous job. I am hopeful that this will be a turning point and the beginning of reuniting soldiers with their families and a beginning of healing for their wounded hearts and for our country as a whole. I am glad this one chapter of our national nightmare is over, and pray that the world will regain some peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 "I've never wished a man dead but I've read obituaries with great pleasure." Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 And it happened on my birthday. Yay! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison in KY Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Somewhere there are some US intelligence men and women who are going to finally have a break from 9/11. I'm so happy for them. I know there will always be work, but can you imagine chasing after one guy in particular for this long, and then finally catching him :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Mrs. Mungo, I couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerstone Classical Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Hate to put a damper on all the debate as to exactly who should get the credit for this great success....but CHUCK NORRIS was just seen at an airport coming back into the USA:lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerstone Classical Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 And I heard Jack Bauer was with him! Love. It.:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrellyMama Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Hate to put a damper on all the debate as to exactly who should get the credit for this great success....but CHUCK NORRIS was just seen at an airport coming back into the USA:lol::lol: :lol: I may have to use this for my FB status today. Very funny! Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Of course! I just didn't realize Obama did. I'm really impressed with his speech tonight! :) Really? You didn't? All the times he's said that he was a Christian previously? All the times he's attended church services? He's been a member of a UCC church for years. He very often mentions God in his speeches, and has discussed his spirituality on a number of occasions. Do you still believe, as Fox news wants the world to, that he's a Muslim? :001_huh: astrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) Can't honestly say that I care what obama had to say. Here's President Bush's comments: "I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude," the former president said in a statement. "The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done." Do you not respect his humanity or the Office enough to even capitalize his name? :confused: astrid Edited May 2, 2011 by astrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhomemaker25 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I can't believe this thread is still open! That makes me happy. I am a strong Bush supporter, but I completly respect the office of President. That said, President Obama deserves some credit as Commander in Chief. I don't know why we think being President is easy. It got on my nerves when people disrespected President Bush and called him an idiot. I refuse to disrespect President Obama just because I did not vote for him. That seems childish to me. Many people, former President Bush, President Obama, special forces, intelligence, our military and I'm sure a host of others got us to where we are today. I'm telling you I'm going to celebrate. I'm going to be ok with us killing someone who came to my house and made me feel vulnerable and insecure. I will never forget the sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach on 9/11. I will never forget watching Osama followers rejoicing in the streets. Never. I will also never forget the soaring feeling at finding that the mastermind was finally brought to justice. I will never forget the victims of 9/11 rejoicing in Times Square. Never. Today is not a day for politics. It's a day to come together as a country and be glad that justice was served. For a minute let's just forget labels such as democrat, liberal, conservative, republican. Let's just all be fellow countrymen! Thank you to all who made this possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Ten years ago during a surreal afternoon in Germany my neighbors and I stood in my living room and watched the towers fall. I have photos of the flowers placed in front of our gates by locals, including a helmet from our local firefighters. We knew that day that our lives were forever changed. I remember people reaching out to one another on the boards. I have now watched my husband, friends and nearly all members of our army family go away to war. I have been to the funerals of some of them. I would love to see a thread in praise of our country, our military and our intelligence community go by without nasty commentary from sore losers. This is bigger than you. (((Mrs. Mungo)))) So sorry about the loss of your loved ones..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdalley Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Hate to put a damper on all the debate as to exactly who should get the credit for this great success....but CHUCK NORRIS was just seen at an airport coming back into the USA:lol::lol: I heard Dog the Bounty Hunter was with him. :D The spontaneous celebrations in New York City, West Point, The Naval Academy.... I've got chills. I'm glad he's dead. I'm glad he died at the hands of our special ops and he knew it was at the hands of people he'd brought so much pain and suffering to. No, it's not the end. But I'm not sure there ever will be an end to extremists wanting others dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauracolumbus Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Hate to put a damper on all the debate as to exactly who should get the credit for this great success....but CHUCK NORRIS was just seen at an airport coming back into the USA:lol::lol: That made my morning. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Seriously?This all started with Solamichella giving the military 100% credit. How is that baiting Bill? It started with JoJosMom saying she didn't give a flip about what the president said, then proceeded to quote the previous president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrappyhomeschooler Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I will never forget watching Osama followers rejoicing in the streets. Never. I will never forget that, either. That's why the sight of Americans doing the same thing makes me unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I posted in the Obama thread that maybe we will turn a corner. Maybe this will be remembered as what Churchill called the end of the beginning. They won't be coming home any time soon. But maybe this puts us one step closer. :iagree: I think this turns a page. I'm not sure about the celebrations, perhaps a grateful acknowledgment to those who made it happen and a sigh of relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver0f10 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I just watched Fox streaming live' date=' and they did play some of President Obama's speech, but it was only the very beginning when he made the announcement that he was killed. None of the rest mentioned here was aired. I know people are happy to hear this news, but the people pumping their fists (on the FOX broadcast) looks canned. :001_huh:[/quote'] I watched FOX live streaming and they aired the speech in it's entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommee & Baba Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Dh and I were lying in bed watching tv when the breaking news happened. We stayed up to watch it all. What a wonderful victory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeannie in NJ Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 we were on the Boardwalk here in Ocean City on Sat. and read a memorial plaque on a bench about a young man (from the words it sounded like he had been a firefighter) that died on Sept. 11. We were talking about all the firefighters and police that lost their lives being heroes on 9/11 to our dc who were too young 10 years ago to remember that day. And then last night to be able to tell them about how justice was uptained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWOB Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Ten years ago during a surreal afternoon in Germany my neighbors and I stood in my living room and watched the towers fall. I have photos of the flowers placed in front of our gates by locals, including a helmet from our local firefighters. We knew that day that our lives were forever changed. I remember people reaching out to one another on the boards. I have now watched my husband, friends and nearly all members of our army family go away to war. I have been to the funerals of some of them. I would love to see a thread in praise of our country, our military and our intelligence community go by without nasty commentary from sore losers. This is bigger than you. :grouphug: Thank you for this. I too sent my dh off to war shortly after 9/11, along with many friends. I was active-duty Navy when 9/11 happened. To hear people bicker over the number of times President Obama used "God" in his speech, belittle this achievement, and make this about anything other than the AWESOME MILITARY MEMBERS who carried this out sickens me and cheapens the contributions of our military members. And just because I cannot resist, GO NAVY!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 :iagree: I think this turns a page. I'm not sure about the celebrations, perhaps a grateful acknowledgment to those who made it happen and a sigh of relief. You describe how I feel. True, he was not as effective recently as he was on 9/11. However, if we had just given up and let him go it would send the message that you can attack the U.S. and get away with it. Also true, our country will need to be on alert both at home and overseas because of this. But do we allow a mass murderer get away with it because we're afraid of retaliation? I don't feel like celebrating, but I'm relieved this particular chapter has ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaT Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 The day after 9/11 my 13yo son told me he would join the military when he turned 18. He is now a Sgt. in the Marine Corp. 9/11 changed all our lives - I am celebrating today. Thank you to our awesome military men and women who serve!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I personally think that those tweets and the nearly hour long delay before the President's speech last night support what President Obama stated...that the mission occurred within the last 24 or so hours. We all know that *all* media is guilty of filling empty space by running their mouths and have been known, repeatedly, to state things that are later found to be in error. This has been a long running mission. It began with President Clinton and has escalated over the years as more events added fuel to the fire (literally). There are many, many, many people who should be feeling immense satisfaction today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xuzi Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I can't believe this thread is still open! That makes me happy. I am a strong Bush supporter, but I completly respect the office of President. That said, President Obama deserves some credit as Commander in Chief. I don't know why we think being President is easy. It got on my nerves when people disrespected President Bush and called him an idiot. I refuse to disrespect President Obama just because I did not vote for him. That seems childish to me. Many people, former President Bush, President Obama, special forces, intelligence, our military and I'm sure a host of others got us to where we are today. I'm telling you I'm going to celebrate. I'm going to be ok with us killing someone who came to my house and made me feel vulnerable and insecure. I will never forget the sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach on 9/11. I will never forget watching Osama followers rejoicing in the streets. Never. I will also never forget the soaring feeling at finding that the mastermind was finally brought to justice. I will never forget the victims of 9/11 rejoicing in Times Square. Never. Today is not a day for politics. It's a day to come together as a country and be glad that justice was served. For a minute let's just forget labels such as democrat, liberal, conservative, republican. Let's just all be fellow countrymen! Thank you to all who made this possible. Love this. United we stand, divided we fall. Let's all stand together today and in the days to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 It started with JoJosMom saying she didn't give a flip about what the president said, then proceeded to quote the previous president. There are over 29,000 members on here, but that comment was baiting Bill? Or anyone, for that matter? *shrug* still not seeing it but it doesn't really matter. I just responded because you quoted me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Can't honestly say that I care what obama had to say. Here's President Bush's comments: "I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude," the former president said in a statement. "The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done." I just responded because you quoted me. I only quoted you to point out where it started. For 9 pages we were discussing the death of bin Laden, what we heard and read from various news sources, and a little about President Obama's religious beliefs. Then the above was posted and it turned south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I'm just glad that he's been caught, finally. It's time, and it's overdue. The wheels of justice turn slowly sometimes, but they do turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Who did YOU lose in the attacks? A couple hundred people I worked with, but none who were close friends. The City of New York was my account, and I worked for a large company at the time. We spent 'till after New Year's putting the agencies back together as best we could. The lingering effects, well... I can't tell you how all of those events during and after have been seared in my mind, but put to the back of my memory for some time. I had no idea that hearing this news would actually make me feel like I've exhaled fully for the first time in almost 10 years. I am incredibly grateful to all involved for seeing this through, no matter how long it took. It matters all the way down to someone like me, who was just another working stiff at the time, who came away "unscathed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I can't tell you how all of those events during and after have been seared in my mind, but put to the back of my memory for some time. I had no idea that hearing this news would actually make me feel like I've exhaled fully for the first time in almost 10 years. I am incredibly grateful to all involved for seeing this through, no matter how long it took. It matters all the way down to someone like me, who was just another working stiff at the time, who came away "unscathed." :grouphug: Honestly, that's why they do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvasMom Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Hate to put a damper on all the debate as to exactly who should get the credit for this great success....but CHUCK NORRIS was just seen at an airport coming back into the USA:lol::lol: :lol: Love this. Classic. lolol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWOB Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Hate to put a damper on all the debate as to exactly who should get the credit for this great success....but CHUCK NORRIS was just seen at an airport coming back into the USA:lol::lol: :lol:I am stealing this and putting it as my FB status, only because I am reading so much crud this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mejane Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) As a native New Yorker, with one cousin who escaped the towers and another who was at the Pentagon that day, I am thrilled beyond words that the evil SOB is dead. I'm only sorry they didn't vaporize his *ss as he didn't deserve a proper funeral "in accordance with Muslim law." I know they did it to avoid making a martyr out of him, but I can't help but think of the families here who would've loved to bury their loved ones after 9/11 except they no longer existed. If there's a hell, I hope bin Laden is roasting his chestnuts in it right now. Edited May 2, 2011 by Mejane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I can't help but think of the families here who would've loved to bury their loved ones after 9/11 except they no longer existed. :iagree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I *almost* feel guilty for being happy that he was shot in the head by the U.S. military, as opposed to having died of illness. (And three cheers for Chuck Norris, all the same ;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbie in OR Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 "I've never wished a man dead but I've read obituaries with great pleasure." Mark Twain Perfect! And I LOVE our military men and women...grew up Army, brother is in the Air Force. Our whole family stands with them and we are beyond proud and thankful today for their success this week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home'scool Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 It was just reported that President Obama placed a call to Donald Trump. He was quoted as saying, "Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner on that whole Birth Certificate thing, I was a bit tied up killing Osama." :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secular_mom Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 We can always count on you Michelle :glare: Bill And President Obama is Commander-In-Chief, so of course he gets that credit too. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPlaceLikeHome Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I think Bush made some great speeches and had a lot of tough decisions to make when he was president. I think he had the best of intentions even when I disagreed with him. I find it just awful that some cannot give our current president the same respect. I find it awful that people would rather believe lies than something good. :iagree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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