wy_kid_wrangler04 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 We are doing figuratively speaking this year and doing lit to go along with what dd is learning about in FS. We tried LL7 and just didnt like it. I am looking to 8th grade now. We will be going MFW ECC so doing lit based on our history is not really do-able (unless we end up doing AAH2 along with it- depends on it that will be to much) anyways- what do you do or do you have any suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Starting Points (Quine) would be a good blend with that. Also there are endless missionary biographies to chose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy_kid_wrangler04 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Starting Points (Quine) would be a good blend with that. Oh I like that :D I saw a few samples. I will be looking for more! Thank you! Oh, btw, I foud ds a psychologist. Waiting for a call back for the date :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samiam Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 We'll be doing CLE Literature. We'll be doing MFW ECC in 8th grade next year as well. DS will have lots and lots of opportunity to read good books. Ideally, I would love to do more of a whole book study, like Progeny Press, that MFW recommends. We tried to do that last month, was going to use Bronze Bow. Had DS read the whole book. I read the whole book. Then had DS read just Chapter 1-2 for first lessons in PP. Failure! He just wasn't putting thought into it. I though we could do alot of it orally, since I knew I wouldn't get full thought good answers if he wrote them out on his own. I thought this could be one thing that we really do together, since he does so much on his own, like we could have a good discusssion. Ugh. Lots of "Umm, I don't know". or really really basic answers, like straight from the book but not getting the "meaning" behind it. I could provide him the "meaning", the interpratation, but that just kind of missed the point of HIM studying it. So back to CLE we went. At least, I know he is getting the Lit study, learning terminology, etc. So for next year, it will probably CLE as well. I might have to outsource Lit down the road!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catherine Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I use TWTM's lit lists, and we are doing modern history this year, so it co-ordinates. I modify a bit-adding my own choices and leaving out some. My boys love to read, but have never enjoyed literary analysis that much, so we don't discuss as much as probably some of you do. I have used the questions in The Well Educated Mind to guide discussion at times, and study guides, mostly from sparknotes, occasionally Cliff's Notes. I have to be a bit careful because I don't want to kill their love of reading, but the eighth grader in particular is old enough to begin to do some more in-depth reading. Just as an aside-because my kids have been so obsessed with HP, for so long, I got a guide to reading it as lit, and it was absolutely fascinating. For those of you who reject HP on the grounds that it's anti-Christian, this would be a thought-provoking read. It's The Deathly Hallows Lectures by John Granger. The books are filled with Christian symbolism, and JK Rowling herself has spoken publicly about her beliefs. One reason for the popularity of the books, IMO, is because they are complex enough to be read on many levels, from basic plot (younger kids) to much deeper. Regardless, it's a very interesting book and has allowed me to do some "mini" analysis with my kids on books they love and have read several times. It also allowed me to introduce some deeper analysis to the eighth grader than we had done in the past, looking at the author's superficial and deeper messages, and searching for and discussing symbolism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 We used K12 literature for 8th grade and enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 For the K12 lit, are those the online guides? What is in them? I have always been curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 It's an online course. There are interactive lessons that go with the reading as well as assignments and assessments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I've got my preliminary list put together and it also doesn't necessarily go along with the time period under study as much as in past years. I'm using some online resources for the poetry study portion of it, but I'm not really using any sort of lit guide regarding the books.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandra in va Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 We're using Literary Lessons from the Lord of the Rings this year with my 7th and 9th graders and it has been a lot of fun. http://www.homescholar.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 We're using LL LOTR next year. I just got my TE today. I'm so excited!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolly Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 We have used Oak Meadow for the first time this year for 8th. I chose it because I loved all of the books they cover for 8th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 What about finishing this year with CLE7, and next year doing CLE8: Christian Light Education Reading is Christian; not a full year program; has worksheets to practice literary analysis/elements;and is based on literary elements/analysis of short stories and excerpts of longer literary works. Or, for a full year lit. program: - Mosdos Literature: Gold (8th grade) -- based on short stories = http://www.mosdospress.com/toc8.html - Excellence in Literature: Intro to Literature (for gr. 8 or 9 -- full English course, includes composition (writing) = http://www.everyday-education.com/literature/eng1.shtml - Literature Lessons from the Lord of the Rings (for gr. 7-10) -- gentle, full-year, intro to literature program = http://www.homescholar.org/LOTR%20Curr.htm Or, what about an online lit. course such as The Potter's School, or a local homeschool co-op lit. course? Or, what about selecting works of your own and using questions from TWTM webpage, info and questions from the first few chapters of TWEM, and a good lit. guide: - Garlic Press' Discovering Literature: Challenger level guides (secular) = http://www.rainbowresource.com/prodlist.php?sid=1297104812-2080940&subject=6&category=1408 - Portals to Literature (secular; designed for classroom use, but adaptable) = http://www.rainbowresource.com/prodlist.php?sid=1297104812-2080940&subject=6&category=1394 - Progeny Press high school level guides (Christian) = http://www.progenypress.com/ - The Great Books (more of a guided Christian worldview discussion than a traditional lit. guide) = http://www.thegreatbooks.com/ - Glencoe Literature Library guides (FREE; secular) = http://www.glencoe.com/sec/literature/litlibrary/ - Sparknotes (FREE; online; secular; analysis/background) = http://www.sparknotes.com/ - Cliff's Notes (FREE; online; secular; analysis/background) = http://www.cliffsnotes.com/ - Shmoop (FREE; online; secular; analysis/background) = http://www.shmoop.com/literature/ - Bookrags (for a fee; online; secular; book summaries/analysis/background) = http://www.bookrags.com/ BEST of luck, whatever you go with! Warmest regards, Lori D. PS: Just curious: what was it about LL7 you didn't like? :) (We very much liked LL7 as a gentle intro into literary analysis, with very enjoyable literature selections, variety of genres, variety of types of literature (novels, short stories, poetry) the information in the lessons, and just enough worksheets to practice the literary lesson learned without overkill. The one downside IMO: no real discussion questions. BTW: in the last half of the units of LL8, the worksheets include more actual literary analysis practice.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacy in NJ Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) For the K12 lit, are those the online guides? What is in them? I have always been curious. Their 8th grade English is called Literary Analysis and Compostion and includes the typical English components (vocab, grammar, composition, and reading). You can purchase just the reading component minus their book studies which are online. You would need: Classics for Young Readers Vol. 8 (purchase this from amazon or Christianbooks.com) Teacher's Guide for Semester 1 & 2 (purchase from amazon) Student pages for Semester 1 & 2 (purchase from amazon) There are stand alone reading books that are also covered in the Teacher's Guide (can't remember which ones - I think a Shakespeare play and more). If you visit the k12 website, look for the materials list for lit and that will provide the names of any extra books. Beginning in 6th grade there are more online activites in the k12 lit program. You can still use Classics for Young Readers and the Teacher's Guide, but more of the program itself is online. My 5th grader is using their reading stuff and really enjoying it; we'll most likely continue on with the 6th grade stuff soon. Edited February 7, 2011 by Stacy in NJ more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygrrl Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I use TWTM's lit lists, and we are doing modern history this year, so it co-ordinates. I modify a bit-adding my own choices and leaving out some. My boys love to read, but have never enjoyed literary analysis that much, so we don't discuss as much as probably some of you do. I have used the questions in The Well Educated Mind to guide discussion at times, and study guides, mostly from sparknotes, occasionally Cliff's Notes. I have to be a bit careful because I don't want to kill their love of reading, but the eighth grader in particular is old enough to begin to do some more in-depth reading. Just as an aside-because my kids have been so obsessed with HP, for so long, I got a guide to reading it as lit, and it was absolutely fascinating. For those of you who reject HP on the grounds that it's anti-Christian, this would be a thought-provoking read. It's The Deathly Hallows Lectures by John Granger. The books are filled with Christian symbolism, and JK Rowling herself has spoken publicly about her beliefs. One reason for the popularity of the books, IMO, is because they are complex enough to be read on many levels, from basic plot (younger kids) to much deeper. Regardless, it's a very interesting book and has allowed me to do some "mini" analysis with my kids on books they love and have read several times. It also allowed me to introduce some deeper analysis to the eighth grader than we had done in the past, looking at the author's superficial and deeper messages, and searching for and discussing symbolism. I am a big fan of John Granger, thanks for this rec.! IT will be perfect to do with the kids this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevknorr Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 http://www.centerforlit.com/default.htm we have used LL and did enjoy it but this is my favorite becuase it can be used across the grades. it is based on socratic questioning which can be used with any novel. this seminar is for the teachers but i have used it with my 8/9th graders who did it with me. we all enjoyed it. i have been an avid reader and this program has enriched my understanding and enoyment of everything i read. good luck! teresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom22ns Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 We're using LL LOTR next year. I just got my TE today. I'm so excited!! OOOH I'm jealous! We're going to do LL LOTR next year too and I can't wait to buy it. I'm holding off ordering because I had to pay for a CAT scan this month. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love2Smile Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I am pretty sure we will be using CLE Lit with my 8th grader this year. I had thought about LL7, but she balks at having to read entire books unless it's what she wants to read at this point. I have seen the samples of CLE and like how I "know" she'll be getting the information she needs to learn about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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