mo2 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 :banghead: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuovonne Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 We sing " " in the car. We take turns coming up with a word to rhyme, and everyone sings the song. It takes a while for new rhymers to figure out the song, but it's low-key and fun and the younger kids eventually figure it out. And hey, you're trapped in the car anyway. When kids start giggling and suggesting words that make vulgar rhymes, you know they can rhyme in their heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelFlores Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 We do lots of nursery rhymes. I also point out that rhyming words are "word families", words with the same ending letter. Dd has gotten good at finding the word families on a written page. We also list word families for fun occasionally. I plan on this leading to teaching poetry in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristinannie Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 We just do a lot of ryhming games, especially at dinner or when we are in the car. "What rhymes with car?" Over and over and over and over and over until my DS FINALLY got the concept! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siloam Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 :banghead: Sonlight LA is great for this, because they start back in K when they are just learning letters and sounds and it allows them to see how only the first letter changes and the rest stays the same. Some kids have trouble hearing rhyming, they need to see it. You can start by showing them how they can look at the end letters and see how only the beginning letter changes. Then you can progress to a rhyme with blends at the beginning and show them how the first couple of letters might change. Once they begin to grasp that you can move into times when the word sounds the same even through different letters are used, and near rhymes. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratia271 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 We read lots of nursery rhymes and poetry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Was I supposed to teach that??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 :grouphug: I am not sure it is necessary, actually. My daughter had to be taught, but she wanted to learn, so this is what I did: http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2352369&postcount=16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuovonne Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I am not sure it is necessary, actually. My daughter had to be taught, but she wanted to learn, so this is what I did: http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2352369&postcount=16 ... For weeks she insisted that words like happy and puppy should rhyme and had to ask dozens of people other than me to believe that they didn't! Uh. Please help me. Why don't happy and puppy rhyme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry in OH Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Read Hop on Pop, Green Eggs and Ham and other Dr. Seuss books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dulcimeramy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Uh. Please help me. Why don't happy and puppy rhyme? Happy and Pappy rhyme. (also Slappy, Sappy...) Huppy and Puppy rhyme. (also Guppy, Yuppie...) Happy and Puppy don't rhyme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuovonne Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Happy and Pappy rhyme. (also Slappy, Sappy...) Huppy and Puppy rhyme. (also Guppy, Yuppie...) Happy and Puppy don't rhyme. I'm still confused. So the first syllables have different vowel sounds, but the last two syllables are still identical. happy = hap + py puppy = pup + py Do they not rhyme because the last syllable is unstressed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellyndria Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I'm still confused. So the first syllables have different vowel sounds, but the last two syllables are still identical. happy = hap + py puppy = pup + py Do they not rhyme because the last syllable is unstressed? I think it's because the rhyming part of a word starts with a vowel sound, not a consonant sound. It doesn't just go by the last syllable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 See, it is harder than you thought!! :lol::lol: So, don't be too discouraged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo2 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Was I supposed to teach that??!! :grouphug: I am not sure it is necessary, actually. OK, wait a sec. I can't even begin to tell you how many places I have read that rhyming is an essential pre-reading skill. Do you not think so? Because my 8yo CANNOT rhyme. She just can't do it. And she has a really hard time reading too. So I was wondering about the connection between rhyming/phomenic awareness/reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytwomonkeys Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 there is a great book called "piggle". see if your library has it (by crosby bonsall). it introduces rhyming in a very fun & game-oriented way. my kids loved it!! we still play piggle:) http://www.amazon.com/Piggle-Homer-Story-Crosby-Bonsall/dp/0066239559 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 OK, wait a sec. I can't even begin to tell you how many places I have read that rhyming is an essential pre-reading skill. Do you not think so? Because my 8yo CANNOT rhyme. She just can't do it. And she has a really hard time reading too. So I was wondering about the connection between rhyming/phomenic awareness/reading. In my house, there is a negative correlation!! My daughter learned to read early and had to be explicitly taught to rhyme, and the process was painful. She was reading at a 12th grade level when she couldn't rhyme. My son has been able to rhyme since he was 4. His reading progress is coming along, but slowly. He forgets vowel sounds at times still and can sound out about 1 letter per second on a good day. He also occasionally forgets a more obscure consonant sound like w or y. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscopup Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 OK, wait a sec. I can't even begin to tell you how many places I have read that rhyming is an essential pre-reading skill. Do you not think so? Because my 8yo CANNOT rhyme. She just can't do it. And she has a really hard time reading too. So I was wondering about the connection between rhyming/phomenic awareness/reading. My son was reading very well before he figured out rhyming. He seemed to pick it up quicker after learning the name game though: Bob bob bo bob Banana fana fo fob Me my mo mob... Bob! It gets tricky with some names though. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siloam Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 OK, wait a sec. I can't even begin to tell you how many places I have read that rhyming is an essential pre-reading skill. Do you not think so? Because my 8yo CANNOT rhyme. She just can't do it. And she has a really hard time reading too. So I was wondering about the connection between rhyming/phomenic awareness/reading. It is common for auditory dyslexic and CAPD kids to have problems with rhyming, becuase they just don't hear it. Which again does tie into phonemic awareness because they just don't hear it. I don't think learning to rhyme is necessary right now. It isn't going to magically solve her reading issues. If you want to work on phonemic awareness you could look at Earobics or LiPS. If you were to get phonological awareness in place you might very likely see rhyming fall into place. Puppy and happy would be near rhymes. They would probably work in an ABAB or similar rhyme scheme where they were not right next to one another, but they would be awkward in an AABB rhyme scheme. For example: I gave a drink to my puppy And then he was happy It doesn't sound quite right. I gave a drink to my puppy Who thanked me with kisses And he was so happy I know it is me he misses. Now the meter is off, but ignoring that you can get away with using puppy and happy in the second one but not the first. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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