BeckyFL Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 http://store.dayspring.com/faithnativity.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrappyhomeschooler Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 It looks like an African American/Amish nativity set with no faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 No. I'd consider it race neutral. Is that good enough? It's not white, but jest being wood would not lead me to think African. To me, that isn't just dark wood stain color, it's features and such too, tho I guess if the skin was painted black, I might. But my first thought seeing it at the store? Didn't jump to any ethnicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 No, I wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Sherry Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Maybe it is. I'm wondering where the decorative detailing style came from. I think it's possible that it is African American inspired. But I don't know. By guessing I would say yes, it probably is African American inspired. Also, the skin color is very dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plucky Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Yes, I would, and it is stunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappyhappymama Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 No, I wouldn't. If anything, I'd think it was meant to evoke mid-tone skin ranges typical of some folks in the middle east. I think it's intended to be race-neutral. It's lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Does it matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 No, I wouldn't. If anything, I'd think it was meant to evoke mid-tone skin ranges typical of some folks in the middle east. I think it's intended to be race-neutral. It's lovely. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crissy Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Does it matter? Maybe someone has an African American Nativity on his/her wish list and the OP wants to be sure to make the right purchase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Maybe someone has an African American Nativity on his/her wish list and the OP wants to be sure to make the right purchase? Ah. That would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAutumnOak Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Depends on whose house it was in...My family is black and if it was in my house, people would definitely think it was an African American nativity...In another home, people may think something else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Yes, I would, and it is stunning. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggieamy Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I would. I can't pin point exactly why but yes, I would consider it African American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 No, I wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 On my screen the skin tones def. look dark enough to be African American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeckyFL Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) Thanks everyone. I think african american OR neutral will end up working and it seems that the consensus is one or the other. I was happy to find it at such a great price as well. Edited December 6, 2010 by BeckyFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daughterofsarah77 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I think you could if you wanted to....but I also think it would be neutral as well. I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalinakel Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Of course. It is beautiful. Why not? This is a strange question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 This is a sincere question, and I truly don't know the answer, but wouldn't it be considered African or not? What, exactly, would make it "African-American" as opposed to African (or Haitian)? AutumnOak, you might be able to explain this to me, if you would. Thanks!:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 To me I first thought, "that is a nice mid-tone and nicely done since Jesus wasn't white." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMamaBird Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 If you didn't tell me it was AA, I wouldn't have thought it was, but once you mention it, yes, it could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 It could depict people of African origin. What makes it American? Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAutumnOak Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 This is a sincere question, and I truly don't know the answer, but wouldn't it be considered African or not? What, exactly, would make it "African-American" as opposed to African (or Haitian)? AutumnOak, you might be able to explain this to me, if you would. Thanks!:001_smile: Actually I agree with you :)...There is nothing that would make it African American verses just African...I would say the people could be Black, because I personally use the term Black...I know many use the term African American in place of the word Black...So I just figured the question meant did the people in the nativity look Black...But there is nothing that would make it American per se... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Actually I agree with you :)...There is nothing that would make it African American verses just African...I would say the people could be Black, because I personally use the term Black...I know many use the term African American in place of the word Black...So I just figured the question meant did the people in the nativity look Black...But there is nothing that would make it American per se... Just pointing out that you would only use African American instead of Black in the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Yes, I would, and it is stunning. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 To me I first thought, "that is a nice mid-tone and nicely done since Jesus wasn't white." My thoughts exactly. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAutumnOak Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Just pointing out that you would only use African American instead of Black in the United States. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeckyFL Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 To me I first thought, "that is a nice mid-tone and nicely done since Jesus wasn't white." Isn't that the truth? And yet, he is depicted so often with fair skin and European features. I actually prefer seeing him as Aslan to seeing him in some of the pictures I've seen through the years although ANY representation of Him at all warms my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Looks race neutral to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remudamom Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Depends on whose house it was in...My family is black and if it was in my house, people would definitely think it was an African American nativity...In another home, people may think something else... I'm sorry but I'm easily distracted. You look way too young to be the mother of those kiddos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaichiki Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) Isn't that the truth? And yet, he is depicted so often with fair skin and European features. I understand why people say that Jesus wasn't white, but he was ethnically Hebrew, right? My dh is ethnically of the Hebrew people and he is lightskinned. People would definitely describe him as white. ETA: I have no issues with Jesus depicted in various ways. Edited December 7, 2010 by zaichiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAutumnOak Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I'm sorry but I'm easily distracted. You look way too young to be the mother of those kiddos! That is too funny :lol:...People do comment when I go out with them sometimes...One woman asked me was I like ten when I started having kids!...My husband thinks other people think he robbed the cradle when we go out :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Sherry Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) Of course. It is beautiful. Why not? This is a strange question. How is it a strange question ? Various pieces of art work are inspired by different cultures. I don't think it's strange at all to wonder if this particular item fits in with what could be considered African American. Wouldn't that just mean it could be of interest to an American of African descent ? Edited December 7, 2010 by Miss Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieM Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Oh, I really like that! I collect small, simple nativity sets and I like the artwork on the clothing. I think the skintones are lovely. Would I think it was AA? I dunno... since the question was asked first, I looked at it with that thought in my mind. I *think* if I'd just seen it first, not in light of that question, I might just think it was meant to look more Middle Eastern. But if one specifically wanted an AA nativity set, I believe this would be suitable/acceptable. Either way, I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smrtmama Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No, I wouldn't consider it African-American, but that's primarily because I'm pretty sure there wasn't such a people at the time of the nativity, and my suspension of disbelief only goes so far. The figurines could be representing people of African or Middle Eastern origin, however. Makes me happy to see a nativity set where everyone isn't blonde haired, blue eyed, and pale-skinned. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plansrme Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) I'm pretty sure there wasn't such a people at the time of the nativity, and my suspension of disbelief only goes so far. But but but, there weren't marshmallows or snowmen at the time of the Nativity, either, and that hasn't stopped someone from making a Nativity out of them! This seems like an appropriate time to break out the Cavalcade of Bad Nativities: http://www.goingjesus.com/cavalcade1.shtml Terri Edited December 7, 2010 by plansrme typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolly Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 But but but, there weren't marshmallows or snowmen at the time of the Nativity, either, and that hasn't stopped someone from making a Nativity out of them! This seems like an appropriate time to break out the Cavalcade of Bad Nativities: http://www.goingjesus.com/cavalcade1.shtml Terri :lol::lol::lol::lol:I'm surprised I didn't wake someone up with my cackles of glee.:lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty in Pink Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipling Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 But but but, there weren't marshmallows or snowmen at the time of the Nativity, either, and that hasn't stopped someone from making a Nativity out of them! This seems like an appropriate time to break out the Cavalcade of Bad Nativities: http://www.goingjesus.com/cavalcade1.shtml Terri I LOVE IT!!!!!:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcyB Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 But but but, there weren't marshmallows or snowmen at the time of the Nativity, either, and that hasn't stopped someone from making a Nativity out of them! This seems like an appropriate time to break out the Cavalcade of Bad Nativities: http://www.goingjesus.com/cavalcade1.shtml Terri ....and they brought him gold, frankincense and snausages. <snicker> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisemomof4 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 no, I really wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No. I'd consider it race neutral. Is that good enough? It's not white, but jest being wood would not lead me to think African. To me, that isn't just dark wood stain color, it's features and such too, tho I guess if the skin was painted black, I might. But my first thought seeing it at the store? Didn't jump to any ethnicity. :iagree: It's neutral and probably more accurate...neither "white" nor "black". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieM Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 But but but, there weren't marshmallows or snowmen at the time of the Nativity, either, and that hasn't stopped someone from making a Nativity out of them! This seems like an appropriate time to break out the Cavalcade of Bad Nativities: http://www.goingjesus.com/cavalcade1.shtml Terri Aaaaaaaaauuuughhhh!!! That is hilarious!!!! Good thing I wasn't holding my coffee cup when I got to the Goose in Mary's Clothing!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 To me I first thought, "that is a nice mid-tone and nicely done since Jesus wasn't white." I agree. The fact that it is Dayspring made me think AA, though, as my mil often gets me cards from Dayspring that are AA (we're not AA, but she seems to like them. :D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 But but but, there weren't marshmallows or snowmen at the time of the Nativity, either, and that hasn't stopped someone from making a Nativity out of them! This seems like an appropriate time to break out the Cavalcade of Bad Nativities: http://www.goingjesus.com/cavalcade1.shtml Terri Loved it! Thanks for the laugh! :lol: Cinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom in High Heels Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 But but but, there weren't marshmallows or snowmen at the time of the Nativity, either, and that hasn't stopped someone from making a Nativity out of them! This seems like an appropriate time to break out the Cavalcade of Bad Nativities: http://www.goingjesus.com/cavalcade1.shtml Terri :lol::lol::lol: LOL! That site is fantastic. I really needed a good chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaichiki Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I really don't mean to be insistent, but I wonder how most people would describe Jesus if not white. Maybe I'm missing something here and I would be happy to be educated -- I always thought that Jesus, being a Hebrew, was lightskinned and would be described, in today's vernacular, as white. I have family and friends who are Eastern European and Middle Eastern Jews and they would ALL e described as white. Can someone share their perspective? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I really don't mean to be insistent, but I wonder how most people would describe Jesus if not white. Maybe I'm missing something here and I would be happy to be educated -- I always thought that Jesus, being a Hebrew, was lightskinned and would be described, in today's vernacular, as white. I have family and friends who are Eastern European and Middle Eastern Jews and they would ALL e described as white. Can someone share their perspective? Thanks. I"m white. The Middle-easterners I know have darker skin than I do and have tight curly hair. They are actually rather racially ambiguous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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