Susan Wise Bauer Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I mean, I KNOW what comes after FLL, because the manuscript is on my screen right now. But I have NO TITLE. Help? Suggestions? Intermediate Language Lessons...there's already one. Logic Stage Language Lessons...only makes sense to people who are already deep into classical ed. Second? Next? Subsequent? Middle? Not-Quite-Beginner-Not-Yet-High-School? HEEELPP. SWB:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXMomof4 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I don't know, but I wish I had the manuscript on my screen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabeline Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Middle School language lessons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I think Logic Stage Language Lessons with a subtitle indicating the grades or middle school or whatever. Glad to hear it's in the works! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I vote for "Second Language Lessons". It's not too original or exciting, but it is clear and works well as a descriptive and simple title for the next next program in the series. No pressure, but I have a child on FLL4 this year so work fast.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medieval Mom Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) That's a tough one. Perhaps Central Language Lessons :D I like Middle Language Lessons, as well as using Intermediate Language Lessons. I realize that Serl has already written a book of the same name; but, at the time, many English/grammar books had a common title, though unique author. Whatever the name, we look forward to it! :) Edited November 17, 2010 by Medieval Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like Middle, though I've got a couple of guys here who might argue for Mean Language Lessons ;). How about Central? Follow Up? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXMomof4 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Logical Language Lesson? A play on logic stage and the fact that they are very logical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I also like Median Language Lessons.:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3lilreds in NC Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Logical Language Lesson? A play on logic stage and the fact that they are very logical? I like Logical Language Lessons! Would "Secondary Language Lessons" sound too much like HS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I mean, I KNOW what comes after FLL, because the manuscript is on my screen right now. But I have NO TITLE. Help? Suggestions? Intermediate Language Lessons...there's already one. Logic Stage Language Lessons...only makes sense to people who are already deep into classical ed. Second? Next? Subsequent? Middle? Not-Quite-Beginner-Not-Yet-High-School? HEEELPP. SWB:confused: You are right that Logic Language Lessons would only make sense to classical educators. Second Language Lessons would make people think it was for second graders. Hm. I think I like Middle Language Lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lailasmum Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Second Language Lessons makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalknot Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I mean, I KNOW what comes after FLL, because the manuscript is on my screen right now. But I have NO TITLE. Help? Suggestions? Intermediate Language Lessons...there's already one. Logic Stage Language Lessons...only makes sense to people who are already deep into classical ed. Second? Next? Subsequent? Middle? Not-Quite-Beginner-Not-Yet-High-School? HEEELPP. SWB:confused: Who is your primary audience? ETA: rather, who are you trying hardest to sell/market to? If it's those already deep into classical education, Logic Language Lessons sounds fine (if somewhat of a mouthful!) If you're hoping to stock the shelves at B&N and appeal to the masses, it might make more sense to keep the FLL brand and simply add a tag-line noting the next level: FLL, Stage 2. (With the existing FLL program eventually going to print as FLL, Stage 1.) Alternatively, I vote you go with the unexciting but descriptive "Second/ary Language Lessons" suggested by an earlier poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigs Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Is this going to be a series of 3 (for elementary, middle school, high school)? If so, I might think about the names for all 3 so they "go together". First, Second, Third First, Next, Final First, Middle, Advanced Best Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpedIntoTheDeepEndFirst Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Do you want it to always end in "Language Lessons" ? If not, you could go with a "Language Lessons for..." title. Otherwise maybe Next Step Language Lessons and then Final Step LL or Next Stage/Final Stage. Or name the Series something and go with First Language Lessons as a subtitle and then name the others at will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Do you want it to always end in "Language Lessons" ? If not, you could go with a "Language Lessons for..." title. If you don't like Middle Language Lessons, then I would go with some like the above. Language Lessons for the Middle Grades or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I have no suggestions, I am just looking forward to buying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athena1277 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I vote for Intermediate Language Lessons. Whatever you end up calling it, thank you for writing it! We love FLL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Mom Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like Logical Language Lessons, but it may be that it appeals to me because I am finding my logic stage child to be completely illogical at the moment :glare:. I think Second Language Lessons sounds like you are learning a second language i.e. ESL. Maybe Core or Central or Mezzo or please, please hurry and get it off of your screen and into our hands and help us with teaching our illogical logic age children!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPlaceLikeHome Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Do you want it to always end in "Language Lessons" ? If not, you could go with a "Language Lessons for..." title. Otherwise maybe Next Step Language Lessons and then Final Step LL or Next Stage/Final Stage. Or name the Series something and go with First Language Lessons as a subtitle and then name the others at will. :iagree: Language Lessons for the Older Child or something like that;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I agree with those who said Second LL sounds like an ESL title. I like Middle School Language Lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitilin Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 :iagree: Language Lessons for the Older Child or something like that;) I like this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Jen Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Why not First Language Lessons grades 5-8. You've already "branded" FLL might as well stick with it to avoid ILL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoyfulMama Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Essential Elements of Language Essential Language Lessons If there is a third... Advanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janna Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I think Second Language Lessons would be confusing because there is already a FLL 2. I don't care for Middle Language Lessons because there isn't anything on the other side yet in which this is in the middle. I understand it has multiple meanings (middle school, middle book), but unless you have it contracted out already or are absolutely certain there will be another LL that is advanced, it's kind of risky and seems odd until you get it out. To me anyway. But I have a tendency to overthink things, LOL. So what about: *More Language Lessons *Beyond First Language Lessons *Building on First Language Lessons *Secondary Language Lessons (and with this, you could keep with your book 1-6 like you had with FLL, indicating this is for all of the secondary grades) Or something along those lines? I also like Cadam's suggestion of Intermediate Language Lessons For The Well Trained Mind. But if you do that, you would almost have to use Advanced Language Lessons for the upper grades once that was out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmosis Mom Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Is this going to be a series of 3 (for elementary, middle school, high school)? If so, I might think about the names for all 3 so they "go together". First, Second, Third First, Next, Final First, Middle, Advanced Best Wishes I agree. I think I vote for First, Next, Final. It has some humor to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I agree with those who said Second LL sounds like an ESL title. I like Middle School Language Lessons. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrappyhomeschooler Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like Intermediate Language Lessons for the Well Trained Mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CarolineUK Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Essential Elements of LanguageEssential Language Lessons If there is a third... Advanced. I like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FO4UR Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like Intermediate Language Lessons for the Well Trained Mind. :iagree: That would be my first pick. (ILLTWTM can be the acronym...hehe) My 2nd pick would be "Language Lessons for the Middle Grades." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinaPagnato Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Intermediate Language Lessons. Everyone will know what ages/grades it pertains to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Intermediate Language Lessons.Everyone will know what ages/grades it pertains to. There is already a book with that name, so that's not going to work. I think Intermediate Language Lessons for the Well-Trained Mind is TOO long and it doesn't fit with the other books. I like Secondary Language Lessons equally well as Middle Language Lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) I like Secondary Language Lessons equally well as Middle Language Lessons. Not the greatest choice for selling to Australians :) "Secondary" would mean year 7-12 for us. Not that I suppose we are such a big market. Anyway, the important Aussies (like me :D) will already know what's what from hanging here. Rosie Edited November 17, 2010 by Rosie_0801 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy loves Bud Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I mean, I KNOW what comes after FLL, because the manuscript is on my screen right now. But I have NO TITLE. Help? Suggestions? Intermediate Language Lessons...there's already one. Logic Stage Language Lessons...only makes sense to people who are already deep into classical ed. Second? Next? Subsequent? Middle? Not-Quite-Beginner-Not-Yet-High-School? HEEELPP. SWB:confused: I like Language Lessons for the Middle Grades. I wouldn't try to force something just to keep the pattern going. With Intermediate and Logic out of the running, I don't like the sounds of the others. Second sounds like second grade, Secondary like high school. You could also just let it continue the series you have: First Language Lessons for the Well Trained Mind, Level 5. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) Advanced Language Lessons, Book 1 Advanced Language Lessons, Book 2, etc. That keeps the flow and branding from First Language Lessons, and "Advanced" has a nice connotation to it; people will like to feel that they are advancing their child, especially in the middle years. I agree with the others that say "Second" refers to a second language and "Secondary" to high school. Then you could go with "Accelerated Language Lessons" for High School. Edited November 17, 2010 by HappyGrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I vote for "Second Language Lessons". It's not too original or exciting, but it is clear and works well as a descriptive and simple title for the next next program in the series. No pressure, but I have a child on FLL4 this year so work fast.:D I like Second too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinaPagnato Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 There is already a book with that name, so that's not going to work. I think Intermediate Language Lessons for the Well-Trained Mind is TOO long and it doesn't fit with the other books. I like Secondary Language Lessons equally well as Middle Language Lessons. Ah! So that's why it sounded so good to me! :tongue_smilie: Yeah, so I'd go with Middle Language Lessons. Secondary Language Lessons feels like a mouthful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Essential Elements of LanguageEssential Language Lessons I like both of these as well as Language Lessons for the Middle Grades. LLMG would work as an acronym, as would EEL for either of the above two. Strange but true, I think that when dealing with the homeschool crowd you need to make sure your title works well as an acronym. Oh, and btw, THANKS! I have been worrying about where to go after FLL4, which my dd will finish before she finishes 4th grade ... Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsbaby Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Why not First Language Lessons grades 5-8. You've already "branded" FLL might as well stick with it to avoid ILL. :iagree: I like this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcjlkplus3 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Same here and I also echo some else's question about whether or not it will be scripted like FLL or more independent? I like First Language Lessons level 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowWhite Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like "More Language Lessons," as suggested by a pp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagira Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like Secondary Language Lessons. As a subtitle, you can have "for the Well-Trained Mind". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dulcimeramy Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Further Language Lessons Following Language Lessons Subsequent Language Lessons Later Language Lessons Language Lessons II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowWhite Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Further Language Lessons Ooooh, I like this one too. First, Further, Final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeaganS Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I really liked the previous poster's suggestion of Essential Language Lessons. It goes well with First Language Lessons, I think. I'm not a fan of Middle Language Lessons, that just sounds funny to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacy in NJ Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) :confused: I mean, I KNOW what comes after FLL, because the manuscript is on my screen right now. But I have NO TITLE. Help? Suggestions? Intermediate Language Lessons...there's already one. Logic Stage Language Lessons...only makes sense to people who are already deep into classical ed. Second? Next? Subsequent? Middle? Not-Quite-Beginner-Not-Yet-High-School? HEEELPP. SWB:confused: ETA: Oh, I get it (palm slaps forehead). You mean what to call FLL5 because it's a transition into 5th grade or logic stage. How about Secondary Language Lessons for The Well Trained Mind? But, what would you call the next level? Secondary Language Lessons 2? Uggh, that's horrible. Good Luck! Edited November 17, 2010 by Stacy in NJ more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Tara~ Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like the "Language Lessons for..." and "First Language Lessons for Grades ..." ideas. "Secondary Language Lessons" would be next in line. But I agree, take advantage of what you have with the FLL title. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iona Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like "More Language Lessons," as suggested by a pp. :iagree: or language lessons kontinued or first language lessons then add stage two or lefels 5-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Coming in late. Has anyone suggested Language Lessons for the Middle Grades/Years ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like Secondary Language Lessons. As a subtitle, you can have "for the Well-Trained Mind". :iagree:I like the sound of Secondary Language Lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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