lovinmomma Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 It would seem to me that if a child started copywork before reading well it would encourage "sight reading". Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Nope. Read first, then copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Is this really even much of an issue? How many kids have the fine motor skills to do copywork before they have the cognitive skills to learn to read? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsfamily Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I wouldn't. It would just seem like copying gobbly-gook if they can't read the words. We did do some copy work when my oldest was learning to read with SWR but I only used words he had already learned to spell and read. We didn't start WWE until he was reading fluently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 Is this really even much of an issue? How many kids have the fine motor skills to do copywork before they have the cognitive skills to learn to read? :confused: Yep. Some do. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 Nope. Read first, then copy. I wouldn't. It would just seem like copying gobbly-gook if they can't read the words. We did do some copy work when my oldest was learning to read with SWR but I only used words he had already learned to spell and read. We didn't start WWE until he was reading fluently. OK. Thank Gals! That's what I was thinking. P.s. Hi Taira! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwjx2khsmj Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Mine, until recently she was much more interested in writing than in reading. She'd copy all kinds of things, labels, magazine titles, etc. She is still at cvc reading level. We still do basic copy work and handwriting because she likes it and it helps with letter recognition. Maybe 10 minutes a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 Mine, until recently she was much more interested in writing than in reading. She'd copy all kinds of things, labels, magazine titles, etc. She is still at cvc reading level. We still do basic copy work and handwriting because she likes it and it helps with letter recognition. Maybe 10 minutes a day. Sounds like my girl! She LOVES writing. Has no interest in reading. I haven't forced her to learn to read, but in Jan. when she turns 6 I'm going to require that she does the new AAR. I'm mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsfamily Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 OK. Thank Gals! That's what I was thinking. P.s. Hi Taira! Hi! :seeya: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsfamily Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Sounds like my girl! She LOVES writing. Has no interest in reading. I haven't forced her to learn to read, but in Jan. when she turns 6 I'm going to require that she does the new AAR. I'm mean. If she likes writing so much, you could have her copy CVC words or whatever you're working on in reading. It might help reinforce the concept for her in an enjoyable way while sneakily teaching reading. She'll never know how mean you are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 My ds did copy work before he was reading. He's dyslexic and didn't read until 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Okay, I just tend to hear people talking frequently about writing skills lagging cognitive ability as opposed to the opposite situation. Goes to show how YMMV ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoife Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 we use dancing bears which has kids tracing words as they learn to read. my DS LOVES this!! I say the word orally, he traces it while saying the sounds and then he reads it. This really has done wonders for his understanding and his confidence in reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABQmom Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 With my first three dc, I waited until they could read. That was the best decision for them. My baby, however, who just started first grade, is doing copywork now. I found that if I chose short sentences that matched what she is learning in her phonics program, it reinforces the phonics, and she is finally starting to read better. I think the copywork is helping. She loves to write by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDmom Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 SL LA has children doing copywork before they've even learned all the sounds. I think they use it as a tool to teach phonics, but it annoys the heck out of me. But now I have this 5yo who finished his HWT workbook in 2 weeks. He's still reading CVC words. He adores all the copywork. His handwriting is better than his 7 yo brother's, but he still can't reliably spell his own name. I have no idea where this child came from. :001_huh: Ok, I guess I'm trying to say, do what works best for your child. Reading and writing skills are not the same. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classically Minded Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) Before I knew better, I had taught my dd at 4yrs old how to write and she was writing before she ever learned to read. It didn't encourage any sight reading though as you had asked. The only sight words I've given her are those in the OPGTR and she still wants to try and pronounce them instead of using them as sight words. So no problems here with introducing writing (copywork) first. ;) Edited October 6, 2010 by Classically Minded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 If she likes writing so much, you could have her copy CVC words or whatever you're working on in reading. It might help reinforce the concept for her in an enjoyable way while sneakily teaching reading. She'll never know how mean you are! You're sneaky! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 SL LA has children doing copywork before they've even learned all the sounds. I think they use it as a tool to teach phonics, but it annoys the heck out of me. But now I have this 5yo who finished his HWT workbook in 2 weeks. He's still reading CVC words. He adores all the copywork. His handwriting is better than his 7 yo brother's, but he still can't reliably spell his own name. I have no idea where this child came from. :001_huh: Ok, I guess I'm trying to say, do what works best for your child. Reading and writing skills are not the same. :001_smile: This made me laugh. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in SW WA Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Yes. Dd 6 did/does copywork before reading fluently. We started WWE 1 in June when dd6 was decoding/almost reading. Today in WWE 1, she wrote something about Caddie Woodlawn moving to Wisconsin. I had to help her read the words phonetically. We do hours of copywork per week and it is helping build reading skills. I don't have a problem with assigning copywork if the reading isn't mastered. It will come. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 Thank you for your advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Mine used Kumon books at 3yo for tracing before she learned how to read. But those books are designed for kids that age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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