OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) I have decided to take the jump and create my own curriculum. From PM's and my thread here I am leaning towards the following for my DC's. PLMK if I've missed a subject or anything important. Feel free to make suggestions as well. I have DS age 6 (not reading and needs phonics intro) in first grade and DD ( advanced LA and Spelling) age 9 in 3rd. I would like to go for more of a classical approach (not sure how the things I chose fit w/in this approach) with hands on and good books. I am waiting eagerly for a copy of TWTM:) I also need to implement some things that are educational for downtime if you could help there as well. (Someone either sent me a link or posted on another thread I started with ideas, but I don't remember which one and can't find the link):001_huh: Both: History SOTW Vol. 1 Science (supplement) SIAN-Detective Lab Music Appreciation Color the Classics III Bible The Children's Story Bible Art Mary Ann Kohl & Bright Ideas Foreign Language La Clase Divertida Level 1 Kit (maybe) DS 1st Grade LA WTM-Ordinary Parent's Guide to Reading Kit WTM-FLL 1 w/audio Thinking Skills 1 Science ES-Intro to Science Bible PAFC-Enjoying God's Gifts (supplement) Handwriting CLP-Writing w/Diligence Math Singapore 1a/1b DD-3rd grade LA WWE 2 Grammar R&S 3 Science Christian Kids Explore- Biology Bible PAFC-Growing with God (supplement) Math Singapore 2a/2b Handwriting Cheerful Cursive Spelling CLP-Spelling Skills 3 Thanks ladies:grouphug: Edited September 24, 2010 by OregonNative Changes to Curriculum Choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Sherry Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I haven't used the specific art or Bible resources you are using, but I just wanted to suggest, that if possible, for you to use something with them that you can use with both of them, if you think they are close enough in maturity level to do that. Maybe someone who has used the materials you have listed can comment. When my children were that age we didn't use a curriculum for Bible. What we used was Leading Little Ones to God http://www.christianbook.com/leading-little-ones-to-god/marian-schoolland/9780802851208/pd/5120?item_code=WW&netp_id=162507&event=ESRCN&view=details The Child's Story Bible by Vos http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details'>http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details'>http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details'>http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details Egermeiers Bible Story Book http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details and a Reformed Baptist Catechism. http://www.christreformedchurch.org/pdf/catechism-for-children.pdf It may save you a lot of time , also, if you can combine for art. Maybe someone can post about that regarding the art curriculum you have listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelia Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 For your son, OPG is phonics, so you don't need a separate program. I'd consider the Writing With Ease level 1 workbook. It teaches narration and copywork to prep the student for more advanced writing, but it's not necessary at this age. Everything else looks good, though one module of Atelier won't get you through the whole year unless you do art very infrequently. You could also consider music, either playing an instrument (even recorder) or music appreciation or both. Your DD might like to learn a foreign language, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) I haven't used the specific art or Bible resources you are using, but I just wanted to suggest, that if possible, for you to use something with them that you can use with both of them, if you think they are close enough in maturity level to do that. Maybe someone who has used the materials you have listed can comment. When my children were that age we didn't use a curriculum for Bible. What we used was Leading Little Ones to God http://www.christianbook.com/leading-little-ones-to-god/marian-schoolland/9780802851208/pd/5120?item_code=WW&netp_id=162507&event=ESRCN&view=details The Child's Story Bible by Vos http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details'>http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details'>http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details'>http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details Egermeiers Bible Story Book http://www.christianbook.com/the-childs-story-bible/catherine-vos/9780802850119/pd/5011?item_code=WW&netp_id=157340&event=ESRCN&view=details and a Reformed Baptist Catechism. http://www.christreformedchurch.org/pdf/catechism-for-children.pdf It may save you a lot of time , also, if you can combine for art. Maybe someone can post about that regarding the art curriculum you have listed. Thanks Miss Sherry:001_smile: I edited my post to say that the Bible choices are supplements/extra things for them to do. My DD has the Adventure Bible for Early Readers which she likes to read on her own. Heck, I like to read it-I can understand what I'm reading much better:001_huh: I have Leading Little Ones to God-this would be OK for a 6 and 9 year old? I do think that a Bible Story Book with pictures would be great for us. Both of my kids would really enjoy it. Do the Bibles you recommended have actual stories and not just a small 2 page reading? Edited September 24, 2010 by OregonNative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 For your son, OPG is phonics, so you don't need a separate program.Oh, Great!:party: I'd consider the Writing With Ease level 1 workbook. It teaches narration and copywork to prep the student for more advanced writing, but it's not necessary at this age. Would this be for my DD age 9? One of the things I really dislike about CM is the narration and copywork. If it's not absolutely necessary, I would rather skip it.:blushing: Everything else looks good, though one module of Atelier won't get you through the whole year unless you do art very infrequently. Aw, shoot! How long does one mod last? You could also consider music, either playing an instrument (even recorder) or music appreciation or both. Any suggestions for music appreciation? Your DD might like to learn a foreign language, too. I think this is a wonderful idea-thanks for suggesting it:) Any suggestions for this? :cheers2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDmom Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I have been peeking in on some of your other threads throughout the day. I wanted to mention that if you use some of the materials from Peace Hill Press (like SOTW and WWE), they have many of their books available as PDFs. I prefer real books, but for the workbooks, those printable student worksheets sure are convenient (and you get them immediately after buying them). I like your plans, overall. I used about a third of SL LA 2 Adv. last year. It didn't contain dictation, just copywork. The copywork passages were pretty long (too long for my then 8-year-old). You could always use them as dictation, if you want to, but I don't think SL officially uses dictation until LA 3. I also want to mention that the spelling words seemed too easy for 3rd grade. Not as easy as some that you were referring to earlier, though. Maybe I just didn't use the program long enough to get into the more challenging words. We used up through week 12. Looking at the samples, the Week 18 and 36 samples seem more appropriate for a 3rd grader than anything we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 I have been peeking in on some of your other threads throughout the day. I wanted to mention that if you use some of the materials from Peace Hill Press (like SOTW and WWE), they have many of their books available as PDFs. I prefer real books, but for the workbooks, those printable student worksheets sure are convenient (and you get them immediately after buying them). I like your plans, overall. I used about a third of SL LA 2 Adv. last year. It didn't contain dictation, just copywork. The copywork passages were pretty long (too long for my then 8-year-old). You could always use them as dictation, if you want to, but I don't think SL officially uses dictation until LA 3. I also want to mention that the spelling words seemed too easy for 3rd grade. Not as easy as some that you were referring to earlier, though. Maybe I just didn't use the program long enough to get into the more challenging words. We used up through week 12. Looking at the samples, the Week 18 and 36 samples seem more appropriate for a 3rd grader than anything we did. Very good to know about SL. I'll review my previous thread for more ideas. Thanks for your thoughts:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrsjamiesouth Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 We used https://funclase.com/welcome.html for Spanish a couple years ago and we really liked it. If you like the idea of classical and might follow WTM, then here is a good map: http://www.welltrainedmind.com/store/curriculum-guides/curriculum-map.html I use FLL (this would cover grammar) with my 1st grade son and we really like it. If you decide against SL, you could look at FLL3 with WWE for your daughter. A friend of mine is doing SOTW and she highly recommends the Activity book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 We used https://funclase.com/welcome.html for Spanish a couple years ago and we really liked it. If you like the idea of classical and might follow WTM, then here is a good map: http://www.welltrainedmind.com/store/curriculum-guides/curriculum-map.html I use FLL (this would cover grammar) with my 1st grade son and we really like it. If you decide against SL, you could look at FLL3 with WWE for your daughter. A friend of mine is doing SOTW and she highly recommends the Activity book. Thanks!! After all the time I have spent at Peace Hill Press, I never saw the Curriculum Map:lol: Any idea if doing SOTW with two children requires 2 activity books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crl Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Doing SOTW with 2 children would require 2 sets of student pages from the activity book. You could either buy an extra printed set, copy the pages you need from the book, or buy the pdf version of the book to print 2 sets from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 Doing SOTW with 2 children would require 2 sets of student pages from the activity book. You could either buy an extra printed set, copy the pages you need from the book, or buy the pdf version of the book to print 2 sets from your computer. I was looking at buying the Combo Pack from PHP. Here is what comes in it "The Volume 1 Combo Pack contains one copy of the revised paperback text, one copy of the bound Activity Book, one extra set of Student Pages, and one copy of the Test and Answer Key". (emphasis PHP) If I'm reading correctly what you wrote, it sounds like the combo pack would be all I need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crl Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Yes, it sounds like everything you would need since they include one bound activity book which has student pages you can tear out and one set of student pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 Yes, it sounds like everything you would need since they include one bound activity book which has student pages you can tear out and one set of student pages. Thanks:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 Am I missing spelling for DD age 9?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Am I missing spelling for DD age 9?? This is what my ds uses for spelling: http://www.christianlibertypress.com/productsBySubject.asp?cat=49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 This is what my ds uses for spelling: http://www.christianlibertypress.com/productsBySubject.asp?cat=49 Thanks Jinnah:001_smile::001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Thanks Jinnah:001_smile::001_smile: It's a good one if your child is good at spelling. R&S spelling is too easy for my ds (but perfect for my dd), but this one is perfect for more advanced spellers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 It's a good one if your child is good at spelling. R&S spelling is too easy for my ds (but perfect for my dd), but this one is perfect for more advanced spellers. So should I put her in 3? What about DS age 6? Does a first grader need spelling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Sherry Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Thanks Miss Sherry:001_smile: I edited my post to say that the Bible choices are supplements/extra things for them to do. My DD has the Adventure Bible for Early Readers which she likes to read on her own. Heck, I like to read it-I can understand what I'm reading much better:001_huh: I have Leading Little Ones to God-this would be OK for a 6 and 9 year old? I do think that a Bible Story Book with pictures would be great for us. Both of my kids would really enjoy it. Do the Bibles you recommended have actual stories and not just a small 2 page reading? There is a good amount of text in the Bible story books I listed. The one by Vos has the most text. It gives a good overview of the story of the Bible. You can take a look at it on the links I listed. The one by Egermeier has a little less text and more pictures. They're both good choices. But I wouldn't give these to the children to read on their own. They are something I would use to read aloud to them. Yes, I would use Leading Little Ones To God with a 6 and 9 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 So should I put her in 3? What about DS age 6? Does a first grader need spelling? Is she good at spelling? If so, do the 3rd. My dd did half of the 1st grade book before we switched to R&S last year. It got pretty heavy for a first grader. I'll see if I still have mine and will give examples of the lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 Is she good at spelling? If so, do the 3rd. My dd did half of the 1st grade book before we switched to R&S last year. It got pretty heavy for a first grader. I'll see if I still have mine and will give examples of the lists. She's incredibly good at spelling. I looked at some general spelling books in Mardels and she could spell the words in a 5th grade book. I know all curriculum "levels" are different though. Last year in 2nd grade her class spelled all of the: thought, though tough and words like navigator, typewriter etc. We never even studied at home and she got 100% each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 I bought R&S 3 for grammar before I decided to create my own curriculum. I just want to make sure that FLL is also grammar and that I wont need both. Since I'm not going boxed, I don't know how to incorporate independent readers and read-alouds. Do the books have to coordinate with what we are studying? If so, how do I go about this? TY:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 (edited) She's incredibly good at spelling. I looked at some general spelling books in Mardels and she could spell the words in a 5th grade book. I know all curriculum "levels" are different though. Last year in 2nd grade her class spelled all of the: thought, though tough and words like navigator, typewriter etc. We never even studied at home and she got 100% each time. You can check out different spelling programs on this website: http://www.cathyduffyreviews.com/spelling-vocabulary/spelling-vocabulary-index.htm Here is the link of Cathy Duffy's review of Building Spelling Skills: http://www.cathyduffyreviews.com/spelling-vocabulary/building-spelling-skills.htm Also, here is a website where users review different programs: http://www.homeschoolreviews.com/reviews/curriculum/showall.aspx I flipped to a random page in the third grade book: mighty, pious, alpine, timeless, finally, microwave, library, dynamite, spider, driver, beehive, fireside, lifeboat, ivory, etc. Another week: foggy, gemstone, dragon, genius, pledge, allegience, flag, giraffe, glide, birdcage, giant, gouge, gauge, grades, godliness, ginger, giggle, grammar, garbage, gadget As you can see, there are some easy words mixed in with more difficult words. The fourth grade has words like: advantageous, desirous, admirable, changeable, deplorable, courageous, famous, noticeable, imaginary, outrageous, embraceable, virtuous, conceive, reign, etc., along with easier words like channel, catcher, ditch, cheek, Indian. Edited September 25, 2010 by Jinnah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I bought R&S 3 for grammar before I decided to create my own curriculum. I just want to make sure that FLL is also grammar and that I wont need both. Since I'm not going boxed, I don't know how to incorporate independent readers and read-alouds. Do the books have to coordinate with what we are studying? If so, how do I go about this? TY:) So are you using FLL or R&S? I'm not sure if FLL has grammar, but the review sites will probably tell you if no one else knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 So are you using FLL or R&S? I'm not sure if FLL has grammar, but the review sites will probably tell you if no one else knows. On the curriculum map at Peace Hill Press it says FLL is grammar:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 You can check out different spelling programs on this website: http://www.cathyduffyreviews.com/spelling-vocabulary/spelling-vocabulary-index.htm Here is the link of Cathy Duffy's review of Building Spelling Skills: http://www.cathyduffyreviews.com/spelling-vocabulary/building-spelling-skills.htm Also, here is a website where users review different programs: http://www.homeschoolreviews.com/reviews/curriculum/showall.aspx I flipped to a random page in the third grade book: mighty, pious, alpine, timeless, finally, microwave, library, dynamite, spider, driver, beehive, fireside, lifeboat, ivory, etc. Another week: foggy, gemstone, dragon, genius, pledge, allegience, flag, giraffe, glide, birdcage, giany, gouge, gauge, grades, godliness, ginger, giggle, grammar, garbage, gadget As you can see, there are some easy words mixed in with more difficult words. The fourth grade has words like: advantageous, desirous, admirable, changeable, deplorable, courageous, famous, noticeable, imaginary, outrageous, embraceable, virtuous, conceive, reign, etc., along with easier words like channel, catcher, ditch, cheek, Indian. Thanks SO much for taking the time to do this! I think 3 would be a perfect book for my DD:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 On the curriculum map at Peace Hill Press it says FLL is grammar:001_smile: Sounds like you are set! Thanks SO much for taking the time to do this! I think 3 would be a perfect book for my DD:001_smile: No problem! I highly reccommed saving the review websites to your favorites... they have really come in handy for me over the last few years I have been homeschooling. It's nice to hear what other people think of programs before purchasing. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeefreak Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I have decided to take the jump and create my own curriculum. From PM's and my thread here I am leaning towards the following for my DC's. PLMK if I've missed a subject or anything important. Feel free to make suggestions as well. I have DS age 6 (not reading and needs phonics intro) in first grade and DD ( advanced LA and Spelling) age 9 in 3rd. I would like to go for more of a classical approach (not sure how the things I chose fit w/in this approach) with hands on and good books. I am waiting eagerly for a copy of TWTM:) I also need to implement some things that are educational for downtime if you could help there as well. (Someone either sent me a link or posted on another thread I started with ideas, but I don't remember which one and can't find the link):001_huh: Both: History SOTW Vol. 1 Science (supplement) SIAN-Detective Lab Music Appreciation Color the Classics III Bible The Children's Story Bible Art Mary Ann Kohl & Bright Ideas Foreign Language La Clase Divertida Level 1 Kit (maybe) DS 1st Grade LA WTM-Ordinary Parent's Guide to Reading Kit WTM-FLL 1 w/audio Thinking Skills 1 Science ES-Intro to Science Bible PAFC-Enjoying God's Gifts (supplement) Handwriting CLP-Writing w/Diligence Math Singapore 1a/1b DD-3rd grade LA WWE 2 Grammar R&S 3 Science Christian Kids Explore- Biology Bible PAFC-Growing with God (supplement) Math Singapore 2a/2b Handwriting Cheerful Cursive Spelling CLP-Spelling Skills 3 Thanks ladies:grouphug: I think it looks great! Way to go! Dorinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelia Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 One module of Atelier should last about 1/3 of the year. That's how it worked for us, anyway. Classics for Kids is good for music appreciation. You could just listen to classical music (check out CDs from the library and books about the composer) and that would work fine, too. For foreign language we use La Clase Divertida, since Ariel wanted to learn Spanish (and it's really useful where we live). It works for us because it's on DVD and has lots of projects. You can choose nearly any language you want. Nallenart is good for French, I'm told, and Song School Latin or Latin for Children are popular for a classical start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnandtinagilbert Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I bought R&S 3 for grammar before I decided to create my own curriculum. I just want to make sure that FLL is also grammar and that I wont need both. Since I'm not going boxed, I don't know how to incorporate independent readers and read-alouds. Do the books have to coordinate with what we are studying? If so, how do I go about this? TY:) SOTW will have book suggestions for you. Receiving catalogs from SL and Veritas, as well as, searching book lists here will give you additional reading suggestions for both read-a-loud and independent reading. Jim Weiss books on CD (available at many libraries) is very helpful, too. Finally, it you peek at the blogs of many TOG users in your year (Ancients, TOG Year 1), you'll get a peek at many of their books (you can also head to Bookshelf Central and pull up books used in year 1). Those places will provide you with many, many alternatives. GOOD WORK! Getting an ecclectic mix is often best for people whose children operate on multi-levels (mine always have). Boxed wouldn't work well in my house; particularly with the size of my Gang. I pray this path runs much smoother for you! Best wishes on a prosperous school year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonNative Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 SOTW will have book suggestions for you. Receiving catalogs from SL and Veritas, as well as, searching book lists here will give you additional reading suggestions for both read-a-loud and independent reading. Jim Weiss books on CD (available at many libraries) is very helpful, too. Finally, it you peek at the blogs of many TOG users in your year (Ancients, TOG Year 1), you'll get a peek at many of their books (you can also head to Bookshelf Central and pull up books used in year 1). Those places will provide you with many, many alternatives. GOOD WORK! Getting an ecclectic mix is often best for people whose children operate on multi-levels (mine always have). Boxed wouldn't work well in my house; particularly with the size of my Gang. I pray this path runs much smoother for you! Best wishes on a prosperous school year! Thanks you SO much for this information!! *sigh* I was really confused on how to do the books. Off to research:hurray: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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