ciyates Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) I retract my comment it. It was not taken the in the light I meant it. It was as my DS would say a failed attempt at humor. Edited August 17, 2010 by ciyates failed attempt at humor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragons in the flower bed Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I should beat DS until he behaves right :D:D:D:D:lol::lol::lol::lol: Proverbs 20:30 (New International Version) Blows and wounds cleanse away evil, and beatings purge the inmost being Disclaimer: I do not intended to beat him until he behaves. I don't think I am that strong. Wow. I've never noticed anything in the Bible that I was *certain* I disagreed w/. There are things I question, hope are symbolic, etc. But we know statistically what happens to the abused: they become abusers. Huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Check the context. Could it be the person is talking about beating one's self? Sounds very medieval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBlueLobsters Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 :lurk5: :iagree::lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciyates Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Before it gets out of hand I am not going to hit/beat/spank or physically do anything else to my son. It has just been one of those days. Growing up I always heard my mom say I am going to beat that out of you (she never did :D ) I just read that and thought it was funny. The great thing about Proverbs is you can't really take them out out of context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I'm going to get into a lot of trouble for saying this, but yeah, there is some hilarious stuff in the Old Testament - especially Leviticus, Genesis, etc. My personal favorite was the guy named Nimrod. There was always sumpin weird happening to somebody in Genesis. :confused: In all seriousness, though, I try to focus on the Sermon on the Mount and specific things Jesus said. If you read his conversations with the rabbis, he basically refutes a lot of the Old Testament rules and tells them to have some common sense. When my daughter asks about something like that, I tell her that it was just a violent, scary, different world back then. That probably makes the most sense to me. No beatings!!! (or stonings) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciyates Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 I know but somedays I just want to hit him in the head and ask if he actually uses that big old brain of his. I personally thing it is in there so that we can show the kids and tell them "See the Bible says I can do this boy so you better fly right." However instead of beating him about the head and shoulders I am making him scrub the kitchen while I hide on the WTM forum :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooblink Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Yikes, that is one of those verses that can be...hard. I prefer to think it means the blows and wounds that life throws at us, also serve to build and strengthen our character. That's how I'll read it, anyway. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 If you really want to debate something then at least look up the Greek so you can see what it really means, not what some translator thought it meant at the time. In this case, it might be better for her to look up the Hebrew since it was written originally in that language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I thought it was Aramaic for the Rroverbs? Or just some of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) I thought it was Aramaic for the Rroverbs? Or just some of them? Just some of them. ETA - I looked it up - it was all in Hebrew for this book. Edited August 17, 2010 by Jean in Newcastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 What a bizarre idea for a thread. Sometimes I just don't get it. Oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simka2 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Ughhhhh...:glare: ALthough, I think OP was just finding some sarcastic humor to cope with a trying day. I can relate :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I think Cadam is correct in her conclusion that it's about criminal punishment, not about children. She's also correct that Proverbs are just that: proverbs, general observations. For instance, Prov 21: 14A gift in secret subdues anger, And a bribe in the bosom, strong wrath." There are many other proverbs indicating that bribes are wrong, but in one sense it is true (though not commanded) that bribes work; they also have other negative effects. Another example is Prov. 26; 4Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him. 5Answer a fool as his folly deserves, That he not be wise in his own eyes. It's kind of an ancient: Darned if you do; darned if you don't. In other words, you can't win. (If you've ever dealt with someone who fits the profile of the Proverbs referring to fools, you've probably had that experience!) The Bible has different genres: some is poetry, some is history, some is specific theological teaching; other passages contain specific commands for conducting oneself. The book of Proverbs is composed of proverbs. It's best to read them through the lens of the genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimm Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 At the time it was written lawbreakers and criminals tended to be beaten for their crimes. I would imagine it reformed the ones it didn't kill - thus making the proverb a general truism of it's day. Yikes, that's not exactly much better. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I have a feeling this is going to be one of these threads. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I retract my comment it. It was not taken the in the light I meant it. It was as my DS would say a failed attempt at humor. LOL! When all you see is print on a screen, you don't get tone of voice or facial expressions...I think people take things literally. :lol: I get what you were saying! :D It's been a rough day for everybody. I could never tear my kids away from their dinosaur army and wooden fortifications... Oh well. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 LOL! When all you see is print on a screen, you don't get tone of voice or facial expressions...I think people take things literally. :lol: I get what you were saying! :D It's been a rough day for everybody. I could never tear my kids away from their dinosaur army and wooden fortifications... Oh well. :tongue_smilie: I read that as fornications. :lol::lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I read that as fornications. :lol::lol::lol::lol: Bwhaaaa! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I read that as fornications. :lol::lol::lol::lol: LOL! I am really tired. I had to check my spelling. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I retract my comment it. It was not taken the in the light I meant it. It was as my DS would say a failed attempt at humor. My kids will say loudly "Bad joke, Mom" whenever one of mine bombs.:glare: They could give me a pity laugh. . .:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in MD Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 If you like the Old Testament, you have to check out Tim Hawkins favorite Bible verse :) I'm going to get into a lot of trouble for saying this, but yeah, there is some hilarious stuff in the Old Testament - especially Leviticus, Genesis, etc. My personal favorite was the guy named Nimrod. There was always sumpin weird happening to somebody in Genesis. :confused:QUOTE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 That YouTube clip was hilarious. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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