Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Has anyone done Life of Fred Calculus? Is it really 2 years of college calculus? Thanks :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Heather in VA Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I own it but we aren't there yet. I'm really not sure. I'm going to have to research what constitutes 2 years of calc these days. When I was in school I took BC Calc in high school and then only needed 1 more semester in college - with a math/computer science major. It is at least BC Calc. I need to look more closely but my daughter's gymnastics coach borrowed it LOL. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Thank you for your reply! What does "BC" mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Heather in VA Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Thank you for your reply! What does "BC" mean? LOL - that is an excellent question. There were two types of calc classes at my school and are the pretty common options (although there are other more specialized possibilities if you are in a school that say has International Baccalaureate or something like that) but to keep things simple - there is AB and BC. I have no clue what the letters mean. I do know that AB covers less than BC and BC starts father down the Calculus road than AB. So for example, I took Analytical Geometry and Advanced Trig my Jr year. Some of those topics would be covered in AB Calc while BC calc assumes those and goes farther down the calc road. My general understanding is that AB is 1 year of college Calc and BC is 1 1/2 but I don't know if that is exact or not. I laugh at the question because just the other day I was talking to a friend of my daughter who is getting ready to take calculus next year in an International Baccalaureate public school. The title of her class is IB AP BC Calculus. No kidding. When I took it, it was called AP BC GT Calculus. We just laughed because who really knows what all these letters mean LOL. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Jane in NC Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Has anyone done Life of Fred Calculus? Is it really 2 years of college calculus? Thanks :) Calculus is not usually taught over two years in college. The first semester is Differential Calculus, the second is Integral (with series), the third is multivariable. This is usually followed by a course in differential equations. Calculus texts come in editions that cover two or three college semesters. Differential Equations are introduced in Calculus but a course in the subject will have its own text. So I am not sure what "2 years of college calculus" would mean. I suspect that it is two semesters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Calculus is not usually taught over two years in college. The first semester is Differential Calculus, the second is Integral (with series), the third is multivariable. This is usually followed by a course in differential equations. Calculus texts come in editions that cover two or three college semesters. Differential Equations are introduced in Calculus but a course in the subject will have its own text. So I am not sure what "2 years of college calculus" would mean. I suspect that it is two semesters. How many units is a semwster math course? I think the description said it covered 16 college units of math. I'll go check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 (edited) Here is what it says on the website LOF uses when you buy from them (Z Twist Books): 16 semester units including: - milti-variable calculus - analytic geometry - vector calculus - differential equations ETA that it says "2 years of college calculus" on the author's website. Edited May 5, 2010 by Cheryl in SoCal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 LOL - that is an excellent question. There were two types of calc classes at my school and are the pretty common options (although there are other more specialized possibilities if you are in a school that say has International Baccalaureate or something like that) but to keep things simple - there is AB and BC. I have no clue what the letters mean. I do know that AB covers less than BC and BC starts father down the Calculus road than AB. So for example, I took Analytical Geometry and Advanced Trig my Jr year. Some of those topics would be covered in AB Calc while BC calc assumes those and goes farther down the calc road. My general understanding is that AB is 1 year of college Calc and BC is 1 1/2 but I don't know if that is exact or not. I laugh at the question because just the other day I was talking to a friend of my daughter who is getting ready to take calculus next year in an International Baccalaureate public school. The title of her class is IB AP BC Calculus. No kidding. When I took it, it was called AP BC GT Calculus. We just laughed because who really knows what all these letters mean LOL. Heather LOL. Thanks, I think;):lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

eumyang Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 (edited) I forgot where I read this, but I think these are what the letters in "AB" and "BC" mean: A topics refer to concepts in Precalculus B topics refer to differential and integral calculus C topics include sequences & series, an intro to differential equations, and some analytic geometry (polar coordinates, parametric equations, vectors) D topics would include multivariable calculus. (Of course there is no "D", but it was conjectured that "D" would have been used if AP were to include multivariable calculus topics. Some high schools would offer a multivariable calculus course and call it "AP Calculus CD" or "AP Calculus D." ) 69 Edited May 6, 2010 by eumyang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Laura in CA Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 must have been on these boards -- it's where I get all my info! -- that the College Board is planning to introduce a third calculus AP exam in a few years, and that it will cover multivariable calculus. I wonder what it will be called -- D? CD? ABCDEFG? :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Jane in NC Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Here is what it says on the website LOF uses when you buy from them (Z Twist Books): 16 semester units including: - milti-variable calculus - analytic geometry - vector calculus - differential equations ETA that it says "2 years of college calculus" on the author's website. OK, I took a look at the website. From the table of contents, I would say it is three semesters of Calculus. (Units vary from college to college.) A course in differential equations covers more than what is listed for Chapter 24. At least that is my story from teaching a "Diffy Q" course and I'm sticking to it! :D Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Jane in NC Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 must have been on these boards -- it's where I get all my info! -- that the College Board is planning to introduce a third calculus AP exam in a few years, and that it will cover multivariable calculus. I wonder what it will be called -- D? CD? ABCDEFG? :001_smile: As multivariable, it should be called Calculus XYZ (with t as a parameter). :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I forgot where I read this, but I think these are what the letters in "AB" and "BC" mean: A topics refer to concepts in Precalculus B topics refer to differential and integral calculus C topics include sequences & series, an intro to differential equations, and some analytic geometry (polar coordinates, parametric equations, vectors) D topics would include multivariable calculus. (Of course there is no "D", but it was conjectured that "D" would have been used if AP were to include multivariable calculus topics. Some high schools would offer a multivariable calculus course and call it "AP Calculus CD" or "AP Calculus D." ) 69 So based on that definition, would LOF Calculus be BCD Calculus plus Analytical Geometry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 OK, I took a look at the website. From the table of contents, I would say it is three semesters of Calculus. (Units vary from college to college.) A course in differential equations covers more than what is listed for Chapter 24. At least that is my story from teaching a "Diffy Q" course and I'm sticking to it! :D Jane Thanks! If that is the case, what would you call it for high school if completed in 1 year? Honors Calculus? Would that be specific enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Jane in NC Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 So based on that definition, would LOF Calculus be BCD Calculus plus Analytical Geometry? Analytical Geometry is covered in either Precalculus or Calculus, depending on the publisher. It is not as emphasized as it once was. Back in the days of yore, my first Calculus course was called "Calculus and Analytic Geometry". Some texts include more analytic geometry than others. Not something that I would write home about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Analytical Geometry is covered in either Precalculus or Calculus, depending on the publisher. It is not as emphasized as it once was. Back in the days of yore, my first Calculus course was called "Calculus and Analytic Geometry". Some texts include more analytic geometry than others. Not something that I would write home about. Thanks:001_smile: So then would you call it Honors BCD Calculus (being specific), Honors Calculus (being generic) or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Jane in NC Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Thanks:001_smile: So then would you call it Honors BCD Calculus (being specific), Honors Calculus (being generic) or something else? I have not seen the LOF Calculus text so I do not know if it is the type used in an honors course. The only honors Calculus courses with which I am familiar are given at the college level for math majors. They are proof intensive. Michael Spivak's Calculus text would be an excellent choice for an honors Calculus course. Most Calculus texts come in editions that either cover differential and integral calculus or differential, integral and multivariable Calculus. For the sake of a transcript, I would call the courses Calculus I, Calculus II and Multivariable Calculus--or just Calculus. In the descriptions, I would note the specific material covered. I do not believe that the term "BCD" would have much meaning to someone examining a transcript. If your student is going to take the AP Calculus exam (either AB or BC), then provide the score on the transcript. If you wish, you can submit your syllabus to the College Board, then call your course AP Calculus AB or AP Calculus BC if your syllabus passes muster. I feel uncomfortable using the term honors on my homeschool transcript. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Heather in VA Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I'd probably call it Pre-calc and BC Calculus. I suspect it's called 2 years of college calculus because if I remember correctly (my book is on loan) it contains Analytical Geometry which comes before BC Calculus but goes beyond what AB Calculus would be. You might want to email Stan Schmidt. He's always been very helpful when I've had these kinds of questions. (or any questions) Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I have not seen the LOF Calculus text so I do not know if it is the type used in an honors course. The only honors Calculus courses with which I am familiar are given at the college level for math majors. They are proof intensive. Michael Spivak's Calculus text would be an excellent choice for an honors Calculus course. Most Calculus texts come in editions that either cover differential and integral calculus or differential, integral and multivariable Calculus. For the sake of a transcript, I would call the courses Calculus I, Calculus II and Multivariable Calculus--or just Calculus. In the descriptions, I would note the specific material covered. I do not believe that the term "BCD" would have much meaning to someone examining a transcript. If your student is going to take the AP Calculus exam (either AB or BC), then provide the score on the transcript. If you wish, you can submit your syllabus to the College Board, then call your course AP Calculus AB or AP Calculus BC if your syllabus passes muster. I feel uncomfortable using the term honors on my homeschool transcript. Jane Thank you, I so appreciate your help! I tagged on "honors" because it says it's college level calculus and it spans what would be 3 college semesters. My ISP calls college level courses and courses taken at a community college "honors" courses. Given that definition, would you still not call it honors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I'd probably call it Pre-calc and BC Calculus. I suspect it's called 2 years of college calculus because if I remember correctly (my book is on loan) it contains Analytical Geometry which comes before BC Calculus but goes beyond what AB Calculus would be. You might want to email Stan Schmidt. He's always been very helpful when I've had these kinds of questions. (or any questions) Heather Thanks Heather:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

eumyang Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 must have been on these boards -- it's where I get all my info! -- that the College Board is planning to introduce a third calculus AP exam in a few years, and that it will cover multivariable calculus. I wonder what it will be called -- D? CD? ABCDEFG? :001_smile: Perhaps this is what you read? http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1066609&postcount=10 I went to an AP Summer Institue on Calculus BC a couple of weeks ago. There is a rumor that there will be major topic changes in the AB and BC courses to better align with college calculus taught on semester systems. Also there is talk of a third AP Calculus exam to cover multivariable calculus, which many high schools are now offering. These changes will be coming in 2012. 69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Laura in CA Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Perhaps this is what you read?http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1066609&postcount=10 Yes, that's it -- thanks! As multivariable, it should be called Calculus XYZ (with t as a parameter). :D LOL! Love it. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

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