Love2Smile Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Can someone recommend a logic program for a student who has never studied logic or a mom either? My dd is going into 10th grade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscopterdoc Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 We loved Fallacy Detective and Thinking Toolbox. here Out of all the logic products dd has done, she learned and retained the most from these 2 books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 At that age you could start with Traditional Logic. We have & like Fallacy Detective & Thinking Toolbox. You could start with that, but we use it when our dc are about 12/13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love2Smile Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 Thanks! Those are the ones I was looking at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Wisc Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Can someone recommend a logic program for a student who has never studied logic or a mom either? My dd is going into 10th grade In 10th, you could do both Thinking Toolbox and Fallacy Detective in a semester or less and then move into book 1 of Traditional Logic. With a quick review in 11th grade, you could then move into Book 2 of TL and take 2/3 to 3/4 of the year working through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy in Ky Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 We love, love, love Introductory Logic by Wilson and Nance. It is so clear! The lessons are short, introducing concepts little by little. We use the dvd's along with the workbook and answer key. This is my second time through it, and I just can't say enough good about it :D Ds 15 loves it as well. He enjoyed Thinking Toolbox and Fallacy Detective also, and IL is a wonderful next step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love2Smile Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 In 10th, you could do both Thinking Toolbox and Fallacy Detective in a semester or less and then move into book 1 of Traditional Logic. With a quick review in 11th grade, you could then move into Book 2 of TL and take 2/3 to 3/4 of the year working through it. Where can I see samples of Tradional Logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Wisc Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Where can I see samples of Tradional Logic? http://www.memoriapress.com/descriptions/Logic1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Where can I see samples of Tradional Logic? Jean gave you the link. We went with it after much deliberation, in part on the recommendation of Tina in Ouray (not sure if she posts anymore) who was/is one of the logic gurus on the forum/old boards. I bought it with the lectures. They are virtually the same as the text, so my eldest only listened to one of them. However, I'm quite confident that at least one of my other two dc will listen to them. My ds is most likely to benefit from hearing as well as reading based on what he's been like so far (but he's still 9, so we'll see.) She finised TL 1 last semester, and I'm planning to get 2 for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brindee Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 From what I've read, you can Count Fallacy Detective and The Thinking Toolbox as 1 semester credit, as Jean said. You put it on the transcript as Intro. to Logic. That's what dd will be doing next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemMommy Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Traditional Logic for wordy people Nance's Logic for mathy people My son is wordy and has learned a lot from Traditional Logic. The video are BOOOOORRRRING, but the program is well-designed. Fallacy Detective, for you son, I think I would have him read it for fun over the summer. It's a light read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 The second time around, I decided to start with informal logic first, so we've used TT and FD this year. I will follow up with Introductory Logic next year. I think for someone who is new to the game, it is simpler to understand than Traditional Logic..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leanna Tomlinson Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I'm going to go ahead and confess...Fallacy Detective gets on my nerves! It's junior high tone does not impress my kids, and I think it's difficult to teach. I've used it for three dc, but I'm looking for something else. For my upcoming 7th grader I'm going to try The Art of Argument. I have not used it yet, but the table of contents seems to include all of the same fallacies in FD. The material is presented in a format that IMHO will spark more dialog with my dc. http://www.christianbook.com/argument-introduction-informal-fallacies-student-revised/aaron-larsen/9781600510182/pd/510183 I have used Traditional Logic with my three teens for the 9th grade. Leanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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