jibaker103 Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 How many high school credits would you give for a student who completed the list below starting summer 2009 and finishing April 2010? English & History Grammar - Easy Grammar Plus Writing - IEW Ancient HBWL, SWI B, Elegant Essay, and Editor in Chief Vocabulary - BF Ancients and Word Roots Literature - BF Ancients and Lightning Literature 8 Reading List: Ancients Tales of Ancient Egypt Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt The Cat of Bubastes Mara, Daughter of the Nile The Children's Homer D'Aulaire's Book of Greek Myths Ancient Greece Galen and the Gateway of Medicine Augustus Caesar's World The Bronze Bow Novels Treasure Island A Day of Pleasure A Christmas Carol The Hobbit My Family & Other Animals To Kill a Mockingbird Stories & Poems A Crazy Tale There Was a Child Went Forth I Saw a Peacock with a Fiery Tail The Mad Gardener's Song The War-Song of Dinas Vawr The Dalliance of the Eagles London Snow Wakefield Goblin Market A Leave-Taking Autumn Weep You No More, Sad Fountains Love Will Find Out the Way Who Has Seen the Wind? The Silver Swan The Snowstorm Reflections The Human Seasons The Fairies I Loved a Lass The Splendour Falls on Castle Walls So, We'll Go No More a-Roving A Wintry Sonnet Nightmare Mariana For history we added in Spielvogel's World History: The Human Odyssey, Teaching Company's High School Series World History, and lots of Netflix documentaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 How many high school credits would you give for a student who completed the list below starting summer 2009 and finishing April 2010? English & History Grammar - Easy Grammar Plus Writing - IEW Ancient HBWL, SWI B, Elegant Essay, and Editor in Chief Vocabulary - BF Ancients and Word Roots Literature - BF Ancients and Lightning Literature 8 Reading List: Ancients Tales of Ancient Egypt Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt The Cat of Bubastes Mara, Daughter of the Nile The Children's Homer D'Aulaire's Book of Greek Myths Ancient Greece Galen and the Gateway of Medicine Augustus Caesar's World The Bronze Bow Novels Treasure Island A Day of Pleasure A Christmas Carol The Hobbit My Family & Other Animals To Kill a Mockingbird Stories & Poems A Crazy Tale There Was a Child Went Forth I Saw a Peacock with a Fiery Tail The Mad Gardener's Song The War-Song of Dinas Vawr The Dalliance of the Eagles London Snow Wakefield Goblin Market A Leave-Taking Autumn Weep You No More, Sad Fountains Love Will Find Out the Way Who Has Seen the Wind? The Silver Swan The Snowstorm Reflections The Human Seasons The Fairies I Loved a Lass The Splendour Falls on Castle Walls So, We'll Go No More a-Roving A Wintry Sonnet Nightmare Mariana For history we added in Spielvogel's World History: The Human Odyssey, Teaching Company's High School Series World History, and lots of Netflix documentaries. 1 English credit, 1 history credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 1 English credit, 1 history credit. :iagree: Of course, she's read far more than most ps kids, so it seems like it would warrant more credits, but I would only give the above. Include a reading list of the most important works with her college transcript so TPTB can see that she is well-read and hard-working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I agree. You might look at making the English credit an "honors" credit, particularly if she was doing significant writing analysis in association with what she was reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 1 English credit, 1 history credit. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 :iagree: Of course, she's read far more than most ps kids, so it seems like it would warrant more credits, but I would only give the above. Include a reading list of the most important works with her college transcript so TPTB can see that she is well-read and hard-working. I agree. You might look at making the English credit an "honors" credit, particularly if she was doing significant writing analysis in association with what she was reading. I agree and disagree. I agree with giving her one history and one English credit. But, I don't know that I would mention a lot of these books in a college transcript, many of them are not high-school reading level material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 But, I don't know that I would mention a lot of these books in a college transcript, many of them are not high-school reading level material. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I know others may disagree, but I'll offer this thought... This dc has done a lot of work at a level that I assume is appropriate for the dc. Why not give credit for it? Seton, Mother of Divine Grace, and Kolbe all give credit for Composition & Grammar, Literature and History in 9th grade as three different classes. Each breaks it up differently; you can read their websites to see how they do it. The high school where my dh teaches also has both English and a composition class in 9th grade. Keeping in mind what these accredited schools do, I think it's fair to count the Easy Grammar, vocabulary, and IEW stuff as 1 English credit, the BF and other readings as a literature credit, and all the history studies, (including the BF and videos) as 1 history credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I know others may disagree, but I'll offer this thought... This dc has done a lot of work at a level that I assume is appropriate for the dc. Why not give credit for it? Seton, Mother of Divine Grace, and Kolbe all give credit for Composition & Grammar, Literature and History in 9th grade as three different classes. Each breaks it up differently; you can read their websites to see how they do it. The high school where my dh teaches also has both English and a composition class in 9th grade. Keeping in mind what these accredited schools do, I think it's fair to count the Easy Grammar, vocabulary, and IEW stuff as 1 English credit, the BF and other readings as a literature credit, and all the history studies, (including the BF and videos) as 1 history credit. I don't disagree with the idea of a great books or literature credit. I disagree with the notion one should receive a high school literature credit for reading books intended for grammar and logic stage kids. High school credit should be given for high school level work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I don't disagree with the idea of a great books or literature credit. I disagree with the notion one should receive a high school literature credit for reading books intended for grammar and logic stage kids. High school credit should be given for high school level work. I understand what your saying here. I ran into trouble in the beginning of the year when a Kolbe advisor told us that we shouldn't use a certain book because it wasn't high school level. We wound up changing things around completely because of that. Now we're using HOAW with some supplements in part because I didn't think dd was ready for the ancient primary source readings. At one point, when I was trying to figure things out I spoke to someone at BF and they told me the high school portion of their guides are meant for 1 history, 1 literature, and 1/2 geography credit. I wondered about this because they were books that you usually see recommended for logic level students. Sonlight also uses books at the high school level that I wouldn't consider high school level. I don't really know the answer, but I put it as something to think about because in general it's possible to have both a writing/grammar credit and a literature credit on a transcript. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I wondered about this because they were books that you usually see recommended for logic level students. Sonlight also uses books at the high school level that I wouldn't consider high school level. It is true that some of Sonlight's books (especially in 100/200) are lower level. However, their curriculum also contains higher level literature-Heart of Darkness, Brave New World, Beowulf, The Dubliners, Hamlet, Gulliver's Travels and so forth. Many college-bound homeschooled highschoolers that I have known have skipped Sonlight 100/200 and done 300/400 for high school, switching to something else for their last two years. I don't really know the answer, but I put it as something to think about because in general it's possible to have both a writing/grammar credit and a literature credit on a transcript. I don't know the answer, either. But I would be concerned that a student who did not conquer high school level work in high school would be unprepared for college level work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reya Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I'd give a history credit, but not a high school English credit. All but a couple of the books are middle school-level in reading level, and all are middle-school level in content. Fewer books would be read in an institutional school, but they'd be of a more appropriate level. I would have her read 6 novels of an appropriate level over summer before granting a high school English credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Ah--you are correct, Mrs. M--I just scanned the list, not noticing the actual titles! :blush: Include a reading list of the most important works with her college transcript so TPTB can see that she is well-read and hard-working. Quoting myself above-- You definitely want an included list to be impressive. I would not put short stories by title or middle school level books on it. I'd still give one credit for lit and one for history, but I would plan to considerably beef up the choice of lit, now that the student has gotten her feet wet.:D And I definitely think adding several titles over the summer of high school level would be a good choice, also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat in MI Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Seeing the age of your child, I assume this is for 9th grade credit? I would give one credit history and one credit English assuming grammar, vocabulary, writing, and literature are part of the English credit. In the next three years you have time enough to worry about beefing up the reading. Just my humble opinion, but you do have a few titles on there that are hs level. It's more than I ever read in high school especially 9th grade. HTH Blessings, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 -I just scanned the list, not noticing the actual titles! :blush: I know, same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
at the beach Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Seeing the age of your child, I assume this is for 9th grade credit? I would give one credit history and one credit English assuming grammar, vocabulary, writing, and literature are part of the English credit. In the next three years you have time enough to worry about beefing up the reading. Just my humble opinion, but you do have a few titles on there that are hs level. It's more than I ever read in high school especially 9th grade. HTHBlessings, Pat :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibaker103 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Share Posted March 31, 2010 Thank you everyone for your input! By the way Noah is a 14 yr old boy in the 8th grade not a girl, lol!! Now to clarify why I asked this question... I wanted to try and get a comparison of what homeschoolers consider high school level compared to public school because I have decided to enroll him in the online ps through Texas Connections Academy @ Houston. Sure enough everyone thought the work he has done is logic level where the virtual academy considers it high school! The 9th grade honors class uses Prentice Hall Literature Gold and Writing & Grammar Gold. The only full novels the students read are Animal Farm (8th grade reading level) and To Kill A Mockingbird (10th grade reading level). They also read Romeo & Juliet (9th grade level) but I'm not sure if they read all of it. Since my son has done more work in 8th grade than the ps hs I want him to get hs credit for it so that he can advance to AP and dual enrollment faster so that he can be challenged and earn more college credit for free. I am a single mother, unemployed since Dec, and now a university student. I have to make every penny count and this is the best solution I could come up with. Since he will still be home with me I will be able to supplement like crazy and still have fabulous discussions with him!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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