HappyGrace Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Dd is on 4-6 WEEKS of antibiotics, or more, due to Lyme disease. I can't get her to eat enough yogurt or kefir, as she doesn't love it. She's only been on antibiotics once before, and I really want to keep her good bacteria levels up. I don't care if it's pills or capsules or what form, I just want one that's really effective. I remember reading that some of them are not stable or something and lose a lot of their effectiveness. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputterduck Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Make sure that you don't give her the probiotics with the antibiotics. You have to stagger them. The antibiotics will kill the probiotics and there will be less active ingredient left to kill the lyme disease. I'm sure you want to kill ALL of the lyme disease, so be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Agh-I have never heard this before! So do I wait til after she is done with the antibiotics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 I did some googling and it looks like you can take them concurrently, but take the probiotic 2-3 hours after the antibiotics. Still need a great brand though! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 You'll want a pharmaceutical strengh one. Metagenics is the brand my Dr. has in her office. They even make one that you can take with antibiotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandamom Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 NSI brand from vitacost. I've been taking it for years and absolutely love it. I've tried numerous other brands and always go back to vitacost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in FL Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 NSI brand from vitacost. I've been taking it for years and absolutely love it. I've tried numerous other brands and always go back to vitacost. This is what we take too. It's a brand I trust. Melissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in TX Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 These are two brands that have been shown to survive the stomach acid and make it alive to the intestine. I'm sorry not to have the links to where I've read this, but Prevention magazine online had something about it, and you could probably find it by searching the website. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommyto3 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 My dr recommended BioGaia® Probiotic Straws for my son when he was on a strong antibiotic for a staph infection. You drink through them to get the probiotic and you can't taste it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariannNOVA Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 We have used 'Udo's Choice Children's Probiotics' for years. We get it at Wegman's or Whole Foods or MOM'S (my organic market) in the refrigerated section. The website is www.florahealth.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 I am off to check these out-thanks! Go ahead and keep chiming in, if you have one you love! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepymommy Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 ProThera also makes a very good probiotic called Abx Support. It is best to switch up brands from time to time, every 4 weeks or so. Different probiotics carry different strains bacteria. We rotate through Culterelle, Klaire Labs/ ProThera, Custom, and Kirkman. Also, drinking kefir (homemade is best but store bought is good too) is great and is very hardy so it doesn't matter when you drink it. It has more probiotics than yogurt. But if prefer or want yogurt in addition, Seven Stars brand is great. (It may be Seven Farms, I can't really remember exactly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Both my dr. and pharmasist recommend Culturelle. WE have been taking that for a good three years and are very happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Youngs Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Nature's Way or Udo's are the only brands that I would personally buy. Just make sure it's interic coated, sot that it survives the journey to the intestines. For what it's worth, I wouldn't use Culturelle if it was free. (Kind of like Centrum vitamins~) My degree is in Holistic Nutrition. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in TX Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 5Youngs--Why wouldn't you use Culturelle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolally Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Whatever brand you get, make sure it has been refrigerated during shipping and shelf time. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Enzymatic Therapy's Acidophilus Pearls don't need to be refrigerated and come in one small dose. They're kind of pricey, so we've used Nutrition Now, Nature's Way or NSI--all from Vitacost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanieZ Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 +1 for Culturelle. It has good data behind it. (The natural/holistic/nutrition oriented vets recommend it as a gold standard for dogs/cats, lol. Lots of good research has been done using it. . .) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CactusPair Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I've tried a few different kinds and I like Pearls (esp. advanced or extra strength) the best by far. Easy to take, don't have to be refrigerated, affordable, and they seem to make a noticable difference for me. You can get them at Vitacost.com or at some stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSDCY Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Nature's Way. We've used this brand for many years. They have both refrigerated kind and the pearl kind. We take the ones that require refrigeration at home and the pearls when traveling. Very very effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Which specific Nature's Way product are y'all talking about? There are quite a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshell Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Can someone please reply..I am curious too!!:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratia271 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Nature's Way or Udo's are the only brands that I would personally buy.Just make sure it's interic coated, sot that it survives the journey to the intestines. For what it's worth, I wouldn't use Culturelle if it was free. (Kind of like Centrum vitamins~) My degree is in Holistic Nutrition. ;) Thanks for sharing this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laundrycrisis Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I order ours from Kirkman labs. http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ I like the Pro-Bio Gold. Before that we used the Multi Flora Spectrum, which is the same organisms as Pro-Bio Gold, but higher potency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spryte Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 So sorry your daughter has Lyme. I hope they caught it early, and checked her well for co-infections. Even if her co-infection tests were negative, you might want to familiarize yourself with pediatric symptoms of them and keep an eye out, as there can be false negatives. Some co-infections require different types of meds. I've had 4.5 years - yes, years - of abx treatment because of Lyme and co-infections. I know - there's controversy there. But I have a great, great doc, and have been off abx now for 2 years. The strides I made were amazing - so it was needed and worth it. (I can walk again!) Anyway - as for probiotics... VSL #3 is wonderful. Theralac is great, too. And in a pinch, I use Culturelle. Please consider adding in Saccharomyces Boulardii - a beneficial yeast. It can help to prevent developing C. Diff while on abx. C. Diff is a serious and hard to treat GI infection. S. Boulardii can help to prevent it. Very worthwhile. It's available in several forms, or you can even pick it up at CVS. Florastor is a common brand, and has been well tested. Oh, and do take them 2 - 3 hours away from the abx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Purchase through Vitacost.com, Jarrow Probiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negin Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Nature's Way or Udo's are the only brands that I would personally buy.Just make sure it's interic coated, sot that it survives the journey to the intestines. I love Nature's Way. Haven't tried Udo's, but have heard great things about it. For what it's worth, I wouldn't use Culturelle if it was free.(Kind of like Centrum vitamins~) :iagree: My degree is in Holistic Nutrition. ;) Please share more and post more often. I LOVE Holistic Nutrition. :) Do you have a blog? Whatever brand you get, make sure it has been refrigerated during shipping and shelf time. :001_smile: I can't because of travel and where we live. We have to ship all our supplements down here. Here's what I've read: Any probiotic you take should contain at least 1-5 billion colony-forming units (CFUs). Several probiotics that make the grade are: Dr. Ohhira’s Probiotics 12 PLUS is known to be the one of the strongest, most effective probiotics Try it for at least 1-2 months – then you can either take a maintenance dose of one capsule a day or switch to a good, less-potent, and less-expensive formula The biggest problem with this probiotic is that it’s rather expensive. Yet it’s well worth the price if you have severe digestion or immune problems. But if not, you can get one of the less expensive ones below. Udo's Choice Adult's Probiotic – 12-36 billion CFUs New Chapter Organics Probiotic All-Flora – 8 billion CFUs Jarrow Formulas Enhanced Probiotic System, Jarro-Dophilus EPS – 5-20 billion CFUs Puritan's Pride Probiotic Acidophilus – 3-9 billion CFUs Jarrow Formulas femdophilus – 5-10 billion CFUs Advocare Probiotic Restore – 2-4 Billion CFUs Kyo-Dophilus – 3 billion CFUs Nature’s Way Probifia Pearls Enzymatic Therapy Acidophilus Pearls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negin Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Nature's Way. We've used this brand for many years. They have both refrigerated kind and the pearl kind. We take the ones that require refrigeration at home and the pearls when traveling. Very very effective. I absolutely LOVE pretty much everything I've tried from Nature's Way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom0012 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Dd is on 4-6 WEEKS of antibiotics, or more, due to Lyme disease. I can't get her to eat enough yogurt or kefir, as she doesn't love it. She's only been on antibiotics once before, and I really want to keep her good bacteria levels up. I don't care if it's pills or capsules or what form, I just want one that's really effective. I remember reading that some of them are not stable or something and lose a lot of their effectiveness. Thanks! Sorry to hear your daughter has lyme. I have chronic lyme and have been on antiobiotics for 2 or 3 years now. I have to take probiotics with my meds or I get violently ill. In the mornings, I take Theralac along with a half tsp. of Ethical Nutrients Intestinal care powder mixed into a little water. I prefer the non-dairy version because it mixes easier. In the evenings, I just use the Ethical Nutrients. This combination keeps me from feeling nauseous all day. I am actually on a pulsing plan with my antibiotics, so I only take them 3 days a week. I still take the Ethical Nutrients at bedtime even on the days I don't have to take the antibiotics. I'm not sure if these are the best out there, but they are working well for me. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susankenny Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Do you use milk kefir or water kefir? With water kefir, you can make "soda" (we love grape) & that would be chalked full of probiotics for your little girl. My kids love it. We dislike milk kefir though, it's sour. Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom0012 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Do you use milk kefir or water kefir? With water kefir, you can make "soda" (we love grape) & that would be chalked full of probiotics for your little girl. My kids love it. We dislike milk kefir though, it's sour. Susan Susan, How do you make water kefir? And then what do you do to make it taste good? I make kefir with young green coconut water (not regular coconuts that have milk) and it tastes terrible, but has been something my non-dairy son has used for years. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susankenny Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Susan, How do you make water kefir? And then what do you do to make it taste good? I make kefir with young green coconut water (not regular coconuts that have milk) and it tastes terrible, but has been something my non-dairy son has used for years. Lisa It's really simple. I got the recipe from a course I took online at www.gnowfglins.com (she follows a lot of Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions). Basically, to make grape soda, it just requires a second fermentation. I do not use coconut water. I use spring water (or you could use boiled water that has sat out to remove the chlorine). For my first fermentation, I just add sugar & an egg shell (I use an old large pickle jar about 3/4 full with 1 cup of sugar - or you can use sucanat, etc). Let it ferment for at least 24 hours - you want it to begin to carbonate for sure. For the next step, you will need to remove the grains (honestly I always leave a teaspoon though to make it extra bubbly:D). For the second fermentation, I add 2 cups of organic grape juice....but depending on the size of your batch, you would add less than I do. Put a lid on tightly and let it ferment for another 24 hours. Remove grains, but do not add those to the batch. They are stained purple now & really can be tossed, eaten, etc. It taste delicious. There are many varying recipes on the web. Just google "water kefir grape soda". We also love kombucha, and to flavor that I use different teas (blueberry, etc) to create yummy flavors. Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom0012 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 It's really simple. I got the recipe from a course I took online at www.gnowfglins.com (she follows a lot of Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions). Basically, to make grape soda, it just requires a second fermentation. I do not use coconut water. I use spring water (or you could use boiled water that has sat out to remove the chlorine). For my first fermentation, I just add sugar & an egg shell (I use an old large pickle jar about 3/4 full with 1 cup of sugar - or you can use sucanat, etc). Let it ferment for at least 24 hours - you want it to begin to carbonate for sure. For the next step, you will need to remove the grains (honestly I always leave a teaspoon though to make it extra bubbly:D). For the second fermentation, I add 2 cups of organic grape juice....but depending on the size of your batch, you would add less than I do. Put a lid on tightly and let it ferment for another 24 hours. Remove grains, but do not add those to the batch. They are stained purple now & really can be tossed, eaten, etc. It taste delicious. There are many varying recipes on the web. Just google "water kefir grape soda". We also love kombucha, and to flavor that I use different teas (blueberry, etc) to create yummy flavors. Susan Susan, Thanks for sharing how you do this. I'll have to give it a try. Do you think I could use the Body Ecology kefir starter packets I have or would I need to purchase the grains you mentioned? Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooRho Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Both my dr. and pharmasist recommend Culturelle. WE have been taking that for a good three years and are very happy with it. this is what my ds's GI dr reccomended. I also put yogart in his fruit smoothies. he can't taste it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy at Home Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 We use this at the hospital whenever an antibiotic is ordered: http://www.florastor.com/ lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoshannon Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 My son is on Florastor kids. Unfortunately he didn't start taking it until AFTER he contracted C.dif at 4 months old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negin Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 It's really simple. I got the recipe from a course I took online at www.gnowfglins.com (she follows a lot of Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions). Basically, to make grape soda, it just requires a second fermentation. I do not use coconut water. I use spring water (or you could use boiled water that has sat out to remove the chlorine). For my first fermentation, I just add sugar & an egg shell (I use an old large pickle jar about 3/4 full with 1 cup of sugar - or you can use sucanat, etc). Let it ferment for at least 24 hours - you want it to begin to carbonate for sure. For the next step, you will need to remove the grains (honestly I always leave a teaspoon though to make it extra bubbly:D). For the second fermentation, I add 2 cups of organic grape juice....but depending on the size of your batch, you would add less than I do. Put a lid on tightly and let it ferment for another 24 hours. Remove grains, but do not add those to the batch. They are stained purple now & really can be tossed, eaten, etc. It taste delicious. There are many varying recipes on the web. Just google "water kefir grape soda". We also love kombucha, and to flavor that I use different teas (blueberry, etc) to create yummy flavors.Susan I wish we had all these ingredients here :(. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHisGrip Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Check out Jigsawhealth.com for probiotics. I used to use Culturelle, but switched to jigsaw when I realized I could buy a 12 months supply at a time and use one of their coupons....making a 30 day supply a little under $10.00. A significant savings over Culturelle (around $18 a box, I believe?) and I think just as good in quality. They have great customer service, too. I'm hit or miss about taking probiotics, but always am more diligent when we seem to be coming down with something -- I really believe they work. http://www.jigsawhealth.com/supplements/probiotics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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