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My dd is just a constant bouncing thing! It's so distracting sometimes! I have been wondering lately if we should medicate. It could save my sanity and prevent another threat of sending her to school.

 

As a side note, I am not one to jump up and medicate without doing a lot of research, praying, weighing the pros and cons, etc. It's been a few years of dealing with this and it is knawing at my patience and energy. When (after 3 years of serious doubt and debate) we finally decided to medicate my son for OCD, the benefits were amazing and I wondered why we waited so long.

 

So... can anyone share their stories? I know every child is different, so I'm not going to base this decision on any particular story, I just would like to know the outcomes of different families. I also realize this thread has the potential of becoming heated... so please just share your personal experiences without attacking someone else. Just wondering if you chose to medicate for ADHD, why or why not, the effects of the medication, if you had to increase it, was/is it worth it, and basically anything else you think is noteworthy for your particular child/situation.

 

Thank you in advance!

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Karyn,

 

It's true there can be heated debates, but it's usually on the general board :D

 

You may want to consider searching my posts as I've posted about these very issues recently.

 

My 10 yo dd was put on Aderall just 2-3 months ago! I did NOT want to add another med as she's on a few for seizures, eventhough she's seizure free. I noticed signs of ADD/ODD/ADHD for about 4-5 years and it was devasting to me, dh and dd. Yes, the threats for send to public school, and taking away privledges, etc. Nothing worked until we could "redirect" her chemistry or what not on meds.

 

My dd's psychiatrist said we can accomplish off meds what we are trying to change, but it's time consuming and challenging. The meds help to "jumpstart".

 

I came to the realization that God while He's bigger than any med, does indeed work through man/medicine. It was a decision reached easily when I weighed the pros/cons....knowing that it would "help" me and dh, but also it IS a help to my dd. Sheryl <><

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My dd is just a constant bouncing thing! It's so distracting sometimes! I have been wondering lately if we should medicate. It could save my sanity and prevent another threat of sending her to school.

 

As a side note, I am not one to jump up and medicate without doing a lot of research, praying, weighing the pros and cons, etc. It's been a few years of dealing with this and it is knawing at my patience and energy. When (after 3 years of serious doubt and debate) we finally decided to medicate my son for OCD, the benefits were amazing and I wondered why we waited so long.

 

So... can anyone share their stories? I know every child is different, so I'm not going to base this decision on any particular story, I just would like to know the outcomes of different families. I also realize this thread has the potential of becoming heated... so please just share your personal experiences without attacking someone else. Just wondering if you chose to medicate for ADHD, why or why not, the effects of the medication, if you had to increase it, was/is it worth it, and basically anything else you think is noteworthy for your particular child/situation.

 

Thank you in advance!

 

We haven't used meds yet, but I'm not against them, and in fact, am thinking about them. What we've tried that is helpful:

 

Most helpful: first round of OT. This diminished hyperactivity dramatically.

Proprioceptive input: heavy muscle-joint input through exercise and chewing gum (the oral component of the chewing gum helps concentration as well)

Lots of outdoor time

Tea (in addition to the caffeine, there are other substances in tea that aid concentration)

Enough sleep

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:iagree: with everything that the others posted. I resisted for years until one afternoon in tears I called the child psych's office (I had already made an appointment but it was still two months away). DD5 was doing a spider man thing across the rear windows of the hummer and stopping only to tangle with his twin sister. Thankfully, the doc's assistant called me right back and had a cancellation for the next afternoon.

 

The psych watched the twins for about 30 seconds and asked my why I would think that it wasn't ADHD? I responded that I thought that I was doing something wrong and it wasn't them. He told me he hears that SO much.

 

By the time we went to the doc we had already made dietary changes, discipline changes, etc., so the only thing we had not tried were meds. Trust your instincts.:001_smile:

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Be sure to ask about side effects (things like aggression). Made that mistake myself :blush:. I think there are only a couple of them that can bring that out. Concerta has been saving grace for us! Just makes the whole family relax a bit.

 

Yup :iagree: -- I finally learned that when I start to see aggression, it is a signal that it is time to change dosage or a particular medication. :001_smile:

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From the perspective of the kid, meds were a real gift for me. I started ritalin when I w, as 15 and it was a great relief to finally be able to study, to think in reasonable stages, to master time, to be in control of myself. And to know my problems were simply a matter of correctable chemistry rather then intelligence or character.

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Most helpful: first round of OT. This diminished hyperactivity dramatically.

Proprioceptive input: heavy muscle-joint input through exercise and chewing gum (the oral component of the chewing gum helps concentration as well)

Tea (in addition to the caffeine, there are other substances in tea that aid concentration)

Will you please explain what your child does in OT, how it helps, and how you found an OT who works with these kinds of kids? Also, any particular kind of exercises, gum, and tea?

 

I believe that ds7 has ADHD. I've had him tested for Vision Therapy and he doesn't need it. He doesn't fit any of the characteristics of Sensory Integration Dysfunction. I will take him to an allergist to check for food/environmental allergies, but I know in my heart that it's ADHD. The pediatrician recommends educational testing, which costs $700 and isn't covered by insurance, so that's going to be our last resort. He functions at or above grade level academically. What have others done in terms of specialists? Should I find a neurologist, a psychiatrist, or a clinical psychologist? I'd rather start with an MD and pay a $25 copay than $700!

 

I've been giving him fish oil and Child Calm, which don't seem to make a difference. Have been working to eliminate artificial colors and flavors as well as certain preservatives...also not making a difference.

 

We are trying to avoid meds, but I will fight for them if nothing else helps. DH is very against meds, fearing that they will change ds's personality (he truly is a sweet, tender-hearted, funny, intelligent boy...who talks incessantly, can't hold still, can't attend for any length of time, bounces off walls, loses his temper easily, and makes us crazy). We are consistent with discipline (nobody's perfect, but we do try) and he gets plenty of sleep. Our 2 older boys do not have the same behavior patterns, so we know it's not "our fault" that he's like this (at least not totally).

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We are trying to avoid meds, but I will fight for them if nothing else helps. DH is very against meds, fearing that they will change ds's personality (he truly is a sweet, tender-hearted, funny, intelligent boy...who talks incessantly, can't hold still, can't attend for any length of time, bounces off walls, loses his temper easily, and makes us crazy). We are consistent with discipline (nobody's perfect, but we do try) and he gets plenty of sleep. Our 2 older boys do not have the same behavior patterns, so we know it's not "our fault" that he's like this (at least not totally).

 

I think your DH needs to know that in most cases meds absolutely do NOT change personality. What they DO do is give those of us with ADD the space and calm to be able to fully express that personality instead of always having to muddle through misunderstandings, impulsive outbursts, etc. It lets us clear away the stuff that gets in the way and truly show our personalities.

 

I understand the concern about this but to use this as an excuse to never even try meds seems really unfair to the kids involved.

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I've been giving him fish oil and Child Calm, which don't seem to make a difference. Have been working to eliminate artificial colors and flavors as well as certain preservatives...also not making a difference.

 

We are trying to avoid meds, but I will fight for them if nothing else helps. DH is very against meds, fearing that they will change ds's personality (he truly is a sweet, tender-hearted, funny, intelligent boy...who talks incessantly, can't hold still, can't attend for any length of time, bounces off walls, loses his temper easily, and makes us crazy). We are consistent with discipline (nobody's perfect, but we do try) and he gets plenty of sleep. Our 2 older boys do not have the same behavior patterns, so we know it's not "our fault" that he's like this (at least not totally).

 

Maybe look at Healing ADD by Dr. Amen? He includes tables of descriptions for everything from exercise to meds to supplements. LOTS of helpful info.

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Thanks for the book rec, Mama Bear.

 

I guess I need to clarify something on behalf of DH. He is very against meds because we have seen kids (family members) change significantly while on ADHD meds (calm to the point of being...what's the right word? flat? dull?...and with parents who were diligent about getting them on the best meds and dosage for them) but I didn't say that he was using that as an excuse to never try meds. Our philosophy is that we should try whatever we can that is natural - exercise, dietary changes, supplements, etc - before going to meds. Maybe I shouldn't have said "fight for them." I guess I have fighting on the brain because it does feel like a battle to find the correct diagnosis.

 

I'm really interested to know more about Laurie4b's experiences. Where are you, Laurie? I'm all ears! :bigear:

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"... And to know my problems were simply a matter of correctable chemistry rather then intelligence or character..."

 

:iagree:

 

We started ds (5.5 yo) on Ritalin last week. The biggest reason was that he was starting to see himself as "bad" and unliked by his peers (and he IS, off meds and in crowds - he ruins everything remotely structured for all the other kids participating). The response has been pretty amazing. He's not the type that can't focus during homeschool hours, so we plan to save drugs for group activities.

 

I really thought he had SPD rather than ADHD, but the dev ped we saw is strongly of the opinion that it is ADHD. We are meeting with him next month to discuss the tests in more detail.

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Meds have been a life-saver for us as well.

 

Make sure you find a doctor who wants to work with you to find the right meds. I was very worried about turning my dd into a zombie etc. But our doc told us up front that if a med was doing that, it was the wrong med and/or dosage and to expect some trial and error to find the right one.

 

We tried Focalin first and we could see immediately that meds were going to help but it made her really intense and when she was coming down off of it she would just cry for about an hour. So we use the Daytrana patch now. It works great and has very little in the way of side effects. (sometimes she isn't that hungry but that's it and usually she eats fine) She knows she learns better with the patch and that she behaves better as well.

 

One thing about trying the meds, the effect of them lasts for just a few hours and you know the effect. You don't need to take them for a month to see if they work or if side effects wear off. So you can try and see. I'm not suggesting kids are guinea pigs, just that if you try a med and it makes your child a bit 'blah' - it's just a day. But if it helps - that day could change their lives. And remember, the meds affect everyone differently - so just because something has a neg affect for someone else doesn't mean it will for your child and just because something didn't affect us, doesn't mean it won't affect yours. You really do have to try.

 

Heather

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Meds have been a life-saver for us as well.

 

Make sure you find a doctor who wants to work with you to find the right meds. I was very worried about turning my dd into a zombie etc. But our doc told us up front that if a med was doing that, it was the wrong med and/or dosage and to expect some trial and error to find the right one.

 

We tried Focalin first and we could see immediately that meds were going to help but it made her really intense and when she was coming down off of it she would just cry for about an hour. So we use the Daytrana patch now. It works great and has very little in the way of side effects. (sometimes she isn't that hungry but that's it and usually she eats fine) She knows she learns better with the patch and that she behaves better as well.

 

One thing about trying the meds, the effect of them lasts for just a few hours and you know the effect. You don't need to take them for a month to see if they work or if side effects wear off. So you can try and see. I'm not suggesting kids are guinea pigs, just that if you try a med and it makes your child a bit 'blah' - it's just a day. But if it helps - that day could change their lives. And remember, the meds affect everyone differently - so just because something has a neg affect for someone else doesn't mean it will for your child and just because something didn't affect us, doesn't mean it won't affect yours. You really do have to try.

 

Heather

 

This pretty much mirrors our experience. The doctor told us that it is trial and error (I think he called it a crap shoot) and he said that one can tell in a day or two or three if a med is effective - doesn't take a month. He was right -- ds started on Focalin and it worked well for about 6 months, then one morning, WHAM, I could tell immediately that it was time for something else. his twin sister started on Focalin and after two days (I really knew after one day) that was the end of focalin for her -- it was the wrong med for her. They are both on Adderall XR now (after being on vyvanse a really long time) and except for one issue I am having with it, we are all pleased with it.

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My dd is just a constant bouncing thing! It's so distracting sometimes! I have been wondering lately if we should medicate. It could save my sanity and prevent another threat of sending her to school.

 

As a side note, I am not one to jump up and medicate without doing a lot of research, praying, weighing the pros and cons, etc. It's been a few years of dealing with this and it is knawing at my patience and energy. When (after 3 years of serious doubt and debate) we finally decided to medicate my son for OCD, the benefits were amazing and I wondered why we waited so long.

 

So... can anyone share their stories? I know every child is different, so I'm not going to base this decision on any particular story, I just would like to know the outcomes of different families. I also realize this thread has the potential of becoming heated... so please just share your personal experiences without attacking someone else. Just wondering if you chose to medicate for ADHD, why or why not, the effects of the medication, if you had to increase it, was/is it worth it, and basically anything else you think is noteworthy for your particular child/situation.

 

Thank you in advance!

 

Both of my dds are on ADHD meds. My oldest just this year as we are working to nail down some of her learning challenges. She is on a very low dose of Adderall and just today we saw the dr for a check up. The difference for her is huge. Dd tells me that she has a much easier time focusing and I've certainly seen her school work greatly improve. The other change has been that my once disorganized, messy daughter has transformed into a neat and tidy queen of organization in her room space, her school stuff and even in the kitchen. Yeah for that! Having said all that, we are watching her weight because it has definitely affected her appetite. She has lost 15 lbs since July and she wasn't at all overweight to start with.

 

My younger dd has been the one most positively impacted by medication and she too takes Adderall but at a much higher dose.

She is very mildly fetal alcohol affected resulting in impulsivity plus she has a mild central auditory processing disorder. She is not ADD or ADHD organically, meaning she wasn't wired wrong to start with, it's because of brain damage, so the decision to medicate was a shot in the dark. Sometimes it works for these kinds of kids and sometimes it doesn't. With her it has been amazing success. She is a completely different person on the meds. Without them she cannot focus, can not control her impulses and because she becomes completely stressed out, her entire personality changes from sweet matured and reasonably resonable to irritable, combative and down right difficult. We can tell within an hour if she hasn't taken her meds.

Again, the downside is lack of appetite and because she is at the highest dose possible, if it becomes a problem, we will have to figure out something else. This dd has also had some problems falling asleep at night, but that evened out and when it does happen, Melatonin is very effective.

 

People will tell you all kinds of things, and I respect that, but for us, having my dds, especially the younger one on meds has been as close to a miracle as possible. The way I look at this is, if she was diagnosed with Diabetes or kidney disease, we would certainly not hesitate to give her the life saving medicine she needed. This is no different just because it involves her brain and affects her attention and moods. For her it's still life saving because without this "help", she has very little hope to grow up into a fully functioning, successful adult person.

 

There is my 2 cents FWIW.

 

Blessings

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