Tap Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) I have a friend who has rail road ties for her veggie garden forms. This isn't a large garden, just a few beds in a modern sized yard. It seems like they would leech chemicals to me. Is there a reputable, researched, list somewhere that shows what you can safely use and what should be avoided? Edited July 13, 2009 by Tap, tap, tap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 There are many different opinions on what is safe. I don't remember now what the facts are about railroad ties. For treated lumber, it used to have arsenic, but no longer does. It does have other chemicals, of course. The EPA says it's ok to use treated lumber in outdoor applications like flower beds, but I don't think they say anything about veggie beds. I did a little bit of research on it (well, a good amount of research), and decided to go with treated lumber. If you want to avoid chemicals altogether, you can go with untreated lumber, but it will crack/warp/rot more quickly. The nicest looking bed would probably be one made from composite lumber, but it's very expensive. I have 2 beds made from Link-a-Bord kits http://nga-gardenshop.stores.yahoo.net/13-1355.html . This is my 3rd summer with them, and they're starting to bow out a little. Not bad, though. They still look nice. But my treated lumber bed looks so much nicer in comparison, and cost half as much (I built it this spring). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) I got some big cedar boards from the lumber store. I didn't use treated lumber in any of my beds but I have herbs in with my flowers. Edited July 13, 2009 by Sis Oh....spelling :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cillakat Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Stones, brick, cinder block. Railroad ties are out as is pressure treated lumber (for me anyway). I have cinder blocks. Not pretty....but cheap. :) K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I got some big cedar boards from the lumber store. Forgot about cedar. That's a good one too. Doesn't rot as quickly as other woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I used untreated lumber. I paid for organic dirt; there's no way I'd risk leeching after all that! Of course, we don't expect the wood to last very long, but we're hoping to re-landscape the whole back yard anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomsintheGarden Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 While the posters above have listed good choices, I encourage you to consider using nothing to border your beds. I have over 1000 sq. ft. of raised beds in our vegetable garden that have been very productive over the last 7 years. They have no borders at all. My big issue was deciding what to use for the paths. I had raised beds before with grass paths, and the grass was a big problem. It kept runnering into the beds and took a lot of time to maintain every year. We discovered this product: https://www.gardeners.com/on/demandware.static/Sites-Gardeners-Site/Sites-CATALOG_Gardeners/default/pwr/product-reviews/Yard-Landscaping/Landscaping/Edging-Mulches/p/34__312-Pro-Weed-Mat-3-x-50.html My oldest ds dug shallow trenches along our path borders and we buried the edges of the mats in them. The paths are 2 feet wide, and we buried 6" of mat on either side. The beds are 4 feet wide and 24 feet long. Its been fabulous setup for our needs. The paths can walked on and swept, they don't get muddy so you can get right out in the garden after it rains, and they look decent. We've found that the edges ravel so they must be singed before use. If I had tons of money I'd get brick or pavers, but these work well for our purpose. I'd rather have nice paths than borders. Just my $0.02. GardenMom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlowetx Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 We put in two small gardens last winter..we did it with cedar boards after doing all kinds of research..do this, don't do that..this gets in, if its not treated then it wears down.....aarrgh.. cedar was perfect for us.. its beautiful and smells nice and lasts for a long time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrganicAnn Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Organic Gardening (magazine/website) has information about what to use/what not to use. You can write questions on their forums and get lots of good info. Or write into the magazine. I would not use railroad ties. We have raised beds made of untreated wood with the area between with weedblock and mulch. Makes it very easy to take care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennC Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I second the motion for nothing. In my garden we have paths between planting sections. For the paths we use economy pine shaving mulch from the local livestock bedding place. It's about $7 for a pickup full and has lasted two years so far. This year I put a very thin layer on top of last years layer because I love the smell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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