Joy at Home Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Anyone care to chime in with their preferences for third grade grammar? I was set to start R&S 3 (we have not done formal grammar), but we will be using WWE next year, so I started looking at FLL 3, and I really like it. I like that there's a workbook. Can anyone share their experiences with these programs and help me decide? Thanks!!! Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mrs.W Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I used R&S 3 with my oldest and FLL 3 with my middle child. I like both programs a lot, but I would pick FLL 3 over R&S 3. It's too easy to overlook the memorization of definitions with R&S, plus you miss out on all the built-in opportunities for narration, dictation and poem memorization. The grammar is clearly explained and often there are fun activities that make it multi-sensory (for example, using actions to explain prepositions such as "lie on the sofa, pull the blanket over you). R&S looks much the same in grades 4 and 5, so you won't be missing much if you start later than 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda in FL Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I used R&S 3 with my oldest and FLL 3 with my middle child. I like both programs a lot, but I would pick FLL 3 over R&S 3. It's too easy to overlook the memorization of definitions with R&S, plus you miss out on all the built-in opportunities for narration, dictation and poem memorization. The grammar is clearly explained and often there are fun activities that make it multi-sensory (for example, using actions to explain prepositions such as "lie on the sofa, pull the blanket over you). R&S looks much the same in grades 4 and 5, so you won't be missing much if you start later than 3rd. :iagree: Same situation here - FLL is just easier to do at this age. I'm glad its been an option for my younger children. I don't think that they would have adjusted to R&S as my oldest has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlockOfSillies Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I strongly prefer FLL's scope and sequence, as well as the cleaner layout and the pre-drawn diagram frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlsdMama Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I STRONGLY prefer FLL. I used Rod & Staff for oldest dd and it's obviously rock solid. But, the learning style is so much easier and more enjoyable (and just as solid) with FLL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy at Home Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 Okay, thanks ladies. It looks like FLL it is!! Now my next question. FLL goes through level 4. Are there higher levels slated? If not, do you continue with another program after, like Rod and Staff. Where would you pick up? Thanks again!! Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlockOfSillies Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Level 4 is the end. There won't be any more. :-( There are lots of middle school choices -- JAG, AG, Shurley, Hake, Harvey's, Warriner's (I chose the 6th grade "Introductory" level, but it hasn't arrived yet), GWG, and R&S, of course. And I just know I've left out a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemama Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Just to chime in on the where will you go after FLL 4...We are planning to use Analytical Grammar and Harvey's Grammar. I plan to use Classical Writing, and Harvey's is recommended to use with that program. I LIKE ANalytical Grammar and just think it will fit my son. BTW, My son HATED R&S 3 grammar, so I waited a long time for FLL4 to come out, but now my son LOVES grammar. I agree about the memorization. It is nice to have it incorporated in the grammar program. Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in OK Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Voice of dissent here. We switched to FLL from R&S and didn't care for it at all. Both of my girls (the oldest two) were quite bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in NS Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I would pick FLL 3 over R&S 3. It's too easy to overlook the memorization of definitions with R&S Do FLL 3 and 4 have grammar/mechanics definitions that are in *addition* to the grammar mem. work in FLL 1 and 2? If so, what is it? Thanks. If not, do you continue with another program after, like Rod and Staff. Where would you pick up? Before FLL 3 and 4 were published, I used FLL 1 and 2, and then moved on to R&S 3. I think after FLL 4 you could start with R&S 5, if using R&S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.W Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Do FLL 3 and 4 have grammar/mechanics definitions that are in *addition* to the grammar mem. work in FLL 1 and 2? If so, what is it? Thanks. FLL 3 is easier if the child has already completed the memory work from FLL 1 & 2 since most of the memory work is the same. There are many new terms and rules in FLL 3 (complete/simple predicate/subject, contractions, direct objects, homonyms, predicate adjective/nominative). The biggest difference is the application of all that memory work through diagramming and other exercises. We will be starting FLL 4 this fall, so I'm not sure what is new in that book or what a good jumping-in place would be for R & S when you complete FLL 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in NS Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 There are many new terms and rules in FLL 3 (complete/simple predicate/subject, contractions, direct objects, homonyms, predicate adjective/nominative). Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlsdMama Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Level 4 is the end. There won't be any more. :-( I wish I hadn't read that. :( I still had hope........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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