hmschooling Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Thinking ahead, if a dc completes ILL in 6th grade, what level R&S would you put them in...4, 5? Also considering I'm trying to downsize in the time commitment and condense as much as possible, I'm thinking I might condense dd8/3rd grade LA (dictation, grammar, writing, etc.) and her picture study and her poetry by using PLL or ILL right now. She's had R&S 2 and much of unit 1 in R&S 3, doing excellent with dictation (on #53 in Dictation Day by Day First Year but should probably be in 2nd year), but hasn't had any formal writing-- just does creative and "copycat" writing on her own (she mimics writing from Aesop, etc.). She knows how to form sentences and concepts of singular and plural, understood you, past/present verbs, but not all the names for parts of speech beyond nouns and verbs. Should I go through PLL quickly over a year or start her off with a couple lessons per week of ILL? I would use the teachers guide available through Lost Classics as well for the extra activities and reinforcement. The second option would put her finishing ILL in 5th grade or partway through 6th, so I'd wonder about placement in R&S for her as well. Edited June 23, 2009 by hmschooling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmschooling Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'm just bumping b/c I'm inpatient ;):lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline4kids Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 My CM educated, going-into-sixth grader jumped right into 5 with no problem. I have to write the scaffolding of a diagram once in a while, but he is can understand the lessons fairly well. Oh, we do most of it orally as we still do all that HOD writing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evergreen Academy Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'd say PLL is a very nice placement for a third-grader; you could skip the first half of the book and move into the second if you'd prefer. ILL was a very appropriate placement for my ds when he was in 4th grade; he used the second part this year and will finish it this year in 6th grade. I believe at that time we may use Analytical Grammar so I haven't thought about a transition to R&S, sorry I can't help with that part. Blessings, Aimee mom to 6 great kids ages 6-18, schooling grades 1, 3, 3 and 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmschooling Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Would you still do the 2nd half of PLL for a child that has done the 1st half already plus R&S 2 and a little of 3? I've got no problems starting her there, I just have very little money to work with and need to make sure I get the right placement so I'm not having to turn around and get ILL soon after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Evergreen Academy Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I would see if you can take a look at the table of contents, to see if things would be redundant. But I think PLL is pretty rich and challenging, and with the teacher's guide's available from Lost Classics, you could add extension activities if you felt the need. At 8, I think it would be a nice placement, and if she's not much of a writer yet, it would give her some good exercises. We also did many of the poems as copywork/dictation, and that was good writing practice too. I'm looking at PLL right now and it seems to me that it has a lot of writing; for example, lesson 115 (the third grade half of the book) has a composition of four short paragraphs that the student discusses with you, then writes from memory. On the other hand, if you really think she's ready (you know her best), go ahead and go for ILL. My ds 16 flew through everything so I know placement is very individual. Blessings, Aimee mom to 6 great kids ages 6-18, schooling grades 1, 3, 3 and 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacalm Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I would probably choose RS English 5 and just slow down on topics that my student is having a hard time on especially for an older student like in 6th gr. I've used RS ENg. 2-parts of 7 now, and RS Eng. 5 is a big jump from RS Eng. 4 but I think that if any of mine is an older student, they can handle RS ENG 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnytracks Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 We did ILL and now this past year did R&S 6 with no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmschooling Posted June 24, 2009 Author Share Posted June 24, 2009 I think I'm going to do PLL, one lesson per day, discuss the poetry but not memorize. I'll break dictation up since it's so long, but will continue on in the lessons (and just add the continued dictation til it's done). Then we'll move on to ILL after that, whether it's 3rd or 4th grade. We might do it over two grades, we might do it over 3. Then we'll go on to R&S 5. That's the great thing about homeschooling! I can do this at her pace. My son is an old for his grade, so I think we'll do all of PLL during 2nd grade for him. It seems doing it over a year would be easy enough, and then go through ILL over the next 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmschooling Posted June 24, 2009 Author Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) How do we report spam for the post above??? ETA: Thanks to whoever got 'em! Edited June 25, 2009 by hmschooling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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