Susan C. Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Hi, I only have one year to do World History with my 10th grade daughter. She is a good student, but not the fastest reader on the planet. She has expressed interest in having some interesting dvds to watch as well (I don't think audio only would work well for her). I own Streams of Civilization Vol. 1 (didn't like Vol.2), and can borrow BJU World History as well. My son did streams, then went to BJU where streams left off. Requirements would be not too high up in vocabulary (a few words ok, but too many she will get bogged down looking them up). Also, readable, not too "textbooky." She loved Story of the World in middle school, read Vol. 1-3 in 7th grade. I would like to consider other history book options, and have recommendations for dvds as well. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggirl Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 There aren't DVDs, but it is designed as a one-year course. You could add in Diana Warings audio CDs?? Not much help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April in CA Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Have you looked at Human Odyssey by Spielvogel? It is a popular text here, and this is the high school text rather that Western Civ, which is a college text. You could add some Western Civ dvd lectures from the Teaching Company (these are lectures - interesting and informative, but still lectures, not entertainment) or get some interesting documentaries from your library or Netflix for something a little different. Just for fun, you could have her read the Cartoon Guide to World History. I can't remember the author's name, or even the exact thitle of the book, but the same guy/guys did a Cartoon Guide to Chemistry that was fun to read and really quite informative. Be forewarned, however, that the tone is not always reverent. I have not read the Cartoon history books myself, so I can only offer them as a fun suggestion, not a full recommendation. Of course, these suggestions would work with BJU World History as well. I agree with you that Streams is rather a snoozer! Maybe if your dd is a hands-on type of girl you could have her try some recipes from various times/places she reads about in history, or if she likes to draw or sew, she could incorporate those interests as well/instead. Have fun and good luck! Blessings, April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 Have you looked at Human Odyssey by Spielvogel? It is a popular text here, and this is the high school text rather that Western Civ, which is a college text. You could add some Western Civ dvd lectures from the Teaching Company (these are lectures - interesting and informative, but still lectures, not entertainment) or get some interesting documentaries from your library or Netflix for something a little different. Just for fun, you could have her read the Cartoon Guide to World History. I can't remember the author's name, or even the exact thitle of the book, but the same guy/guys did a Cartoon Guide to Chemistry that was fun to read and really quite informative. Be forewarned, however, that the tone is not always reverent. I have not read the Cartoon history books myself, so I can only offer them as a fun suggestion, not a full recommendation. Of course, these suggestions would work with BJU World History as well. I agree with you that Streams is rather a snoozer! Maybe if your dd is a hands-on type of girl you could have her try some recipes from various times/places she reads about in history, or if she likes to draw or sew, she could incorporate those interests as well/instead. Have fun and good luck! Blessings, April Thanks! How readable is HO? She would be alright with lectures as long as she can see a face, do you have any Teaching Co. ones that you like? I do like Streams Vol. 1, but Vol 2, not, took it back! So if we do Vol. 1, we need something to finish with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamaof2andtwins Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 We are going to try Notgrass Exploring World History in tha fall for 10th grade with my son. We used History Odyssey Ancients Level 2 this year after trying TRISMS and some things on our own, but I need something that has a tests/quizzes. Just thought I would share since it seems we are in a similar situation. Jennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April in CA Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Hello again, Susan! I don't own HO, but I have briefly looked at a friend's copy, and I thought it looked pretty readable and interesting. Hopefully someone who has actually used it will chime in here to fully answer that for you. I have enjoyed the Foundations of Western Civ lectures from the Teaching Company. The professor is easy to listen to and covers the material well, in my opinion. The guy my boys and I really get a kick out is the prof that does the Middle Ages lectures - Philip Daileader, but you might not want to invest in a series that you would have to fly through. The dvd lectures are a blessing for me - I need something to look at while listening, or pretty soon listening stops and mind-wandering begins! You might want to check your library - many libraries carry at least the audio version of some TC courses. Maybe someone else can help out here, but I seem to remember that Jean in Wisc. used HO and has a schedule for it somewhere. Maybe a forum search would find it, or someone more technologically inclined than myself can link it, if it still exists. Hope this helps! Blessings, April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Wisc Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Maybe someone else can help out here, but I seem to remember that Jean in Wisc. used HO and has a schedule for it somewhere. Maybe a forum search would find it, or someone more technologically inclined than myself can link it, if it still exists. http://shadesofwhite.typepad.com/shades_of_white/2007/07/world-history-1.html At the bottom of the spreadsheet there is page 1 and page 2. Page 2 includes a day for review and a day for the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 Hello again, Susan!I don't own HO, but I have briefly looked at a friend's copy, and I thought it looked pretty readable and interesting. Hopefully someone who has actually used it will chime in here to fully answer that for you. I have enjoyed the Foundations of Western Civ lectures from the Teaching Company. The professor is easy to listen to and covers the material well, in my opinion. The guy my boys and I really get a kick out is the prof that does the Middle Ages lectures - Philip Daileader, but you might not want to invest in a series that you would have to fly through. The dvd lectures are a blessing for me - I need something to look at while listening, or pretty soon listening stops and mind-wandering begins! You might want to check your library - many libraries carry at least the audio version of some TC courses. Maybe someone else can help out here, but I seem to remember that Jean in Wisc. used HO and has a schedule for it somewhere. Maybe a forum search would find it, or someone more technologically inclined than myself can link it, if it still exists. Hope this helps! Blessings, April OK, Jean put it below, hooray! Is middle ages audio, or dvd? You, I, and my daughter have trouble with audio only! I have 2 votes for Foundations of Western Civ. unless both of them are you :) Our library only has audio Teaching Co. :( Any idea how HO compares to Notgrass, I've seen many recommendations for that as well. Thank you for writing! Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 http://shadesofwhite.typepad.com/shades_of_white/2007/07/world-history-1.html At the bottom of the spreadsheet there is page 1 and page 2. Page 2 includes a day for review and a day for the test. Jean, I think I have the software to look at it, but don't know:001_huh: Does it include Teaching Co. dvd suggestions? If so, I will get someone to help me with the spreadsheet. I am getting better at this, but it hasn't been that long since we replaced our very old computer. Thank you! Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 There aren't DVDs, but it is designed as a one-year course. You could add in Diana Warings audio CDs?? Not much help. Cynthia, I just notice your subhead suggesting Notgrass, thanks, it looks like a lot of people like this program. Can you do just the history, we already have a lit book. Thanks again, Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 We are going to try Notgrass Exploring World History in tha fall for 10th grade with my son. We used History Odyssey Ancients Level 2 this year after trying TRISMS and some things on our own, but I need something that has a tests/quizzes. Just thought I would share since it seems we are in a similar situation. Jennie We are finished too, hooray, another vote for Notgrass, are you doing the entire program, or just the history? Thanks, Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Thanks! How readable is HO? She would be alright with lectures as long as she can see a face, do you have any Teaching Co. ones that you like? I second the suggestion of HO: it's very readable, and copiously illustrated with maps, drawings, paintings, etc. There is original source material scattered throughout in sections called "You Are There," as well as sections on art history, science & technology, everyday life, etc. I believe it is still in print although the most recent edition is 1999. It sells for about $100 new, but you can get used copies in excellent condition usually for around $20 or so (I think that's about what I paid for mine). I would also second the suggestion of Teaching Company's Foundations of Western Civ I; it's an interesting and engaging course. I haven't seen Western Civ II, which uses a different lecturer. I wouldn't recommend TC's A Brief History of the World -- the professor is REALLY dull. :bored: One caveat, though, is that Human Odyssey is heavier on Western Civ than on nonwestern cultures and history (Spielvogel is a specialist in Europe & the Reformation), so if you are combining HO and the TC course on Western Civ, you might want to add in some additional documentaries on other cultures. Do you have Netfilx? There are a surprising number of historical documentaries available. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Any idea how HO compares to Notgrass, I've seen many recommendations for that as well. Susan It really depends on whether you're looking for a Christian or secular text. Spielvogel is secular and starts with prehistory (discussion of early hominids). Notgrass is Christian, incorporates bible study throughout, and begins at Creation. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Wisc Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 World History: A Human Odyssey by Spielvogel Do all sectional reviews of those chapters that cover Western Civilization. The questions at the beginning of each chapter will be the essays required for each test grade. Non-Western chapters, read only. Day Chapter 1: Read 1 Section 1 & 2 2 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 2: Section reviews 3 Section 1 4 Section 2 5 Section 3 6 Section 4 7 Review 8 Test Chapter 3: Read 9 Section 1 & 2 10 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 4: Read 11 Section 1 & 2 12 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 5: Section Reviews 13 Section 1 14 Section 2 15 Section 3 16 Section 4 17 Section 5 18 Review 19 Test Chapter 6: Section Reviews 20 Section 1 21 Section 2 22 Section 3 23 Section 4 24 Section 5 25 Review 26 Test Chapter 7: Section Reviews 27 Section 1 28 Section 2 29 Section 3 30 Review 31 Test Chapter 8: Section Reviews 32 Section 1 33 Section 2 34 Section 3 35 Section 4 36 Review 37 Test Chapter 9: Read 38 Section 1 & 2 39 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 10: Read 40 Section 1 & 2 41 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 11: Read 42 Section 1 & 2 43 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 12: Section Reviews 44 Section 1 45 Section 2 46 Section 3 47 Section 4 48 Review 49 Test Chapter 13: Section Reviews 50 Section 1 51 Section 2 52 Section 3 53 Section 4 54 Section 5 55 Review 56 Test Chapter 14:Section Reviews 57 Section 1 58 Section 2 59 Section 3 60 Section 4 61 Review 62 Test Chapter 15: Section Reviews 63 Section 1 64 Section 2 65 Section 3 66 Section 4 67 Review 68 Test Chapter 16 69 Section 1: Section Review 70 Section 2 & 3: Read Chapter 17: Read 71 Section 1 & 2 72 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 18: Read 73 Section 1 & 2 74 Section 3 Chapter 19: Section Review 75 Section 1 76 Section 2 77 Section 3 78 Section 4 79 Section 5 80 Review 81 Test Chapter 20: Section Review 82 Section 1 83 Section 2 84 Section 3 85 Section 4 86 Section 5 87 Review 88 Test Chapter 21: Section Review 89 Section 1 90 Section 2 91 Section 3 92 Section 4 93 Review 94 Test Chapter 22: Section Review 95 Section 1 96 Section 2 97 Section 3 98 Section 4 99 Review 100 Test Chapter 23: Section Review 101 Section 1 102 Section 2 103 Section 3 104 Section 4 105 Review 106 Test Chapter 24: Read 107 Sections 1 & 2 108 Sections 3 & 4 Chapter 25: Section Review 109 Section 1 110 Section 2 111 Section 3 112 Section 4 113 R 114 Test Chapter 26: Section Review 115 Section 1 116 Section 2 117 Section 3 118 Section 4 119 Review 120 Test Chapter 27: Read 121 Section 1 & 2 122 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 28: Section Review 123 Section 1 124 Section 2 125 Section 3 126 Section 4 127 Review 128 Test Chapter 29: Section Review 129 Section 1 130 Section 2 131 Section 3 132 Section 4 133 Section 5 134 Review 135 Test Chapter 30: Section Review 136 Section 1 137 Section 2 138 Section 3 139 Section 4 140 Section 5 141 Review 142 Test Chapter 31: Read 143 Section 1 & 2 144 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 32: Read 145 Section 1 & 2 146 Section 3 & 4 Chapter 33: Read 147 Section 1 & 2 148 Section 3 & 4 149 Section 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 It really depends on whether you're looking for a Christian or secular text. Spielvogel is secular and starts with prehistory (discussion of early hominids). Notgrass is Christian, incorporates bible study throughout, and begins at Creation. Jackie I don't mind a Christian text unless it is overdone.... (how do I define that??) And wouldn't mind a secular if it isn't slanted against my Christian beliefs. I don't like A Beka history, I don't mind most of BJU. I like Vol. 1 (not 2) of Streams of Civilization. I really liked Joy Hakim's History of US. The few things I disagreed with her on were obvious and made good discussions. I liked Story of the World. I guess I would define what I want is accurate even handed history, not "sugar coated," presenting people as they really were and events how they happened without a lot of "slant." I prefer Bible study and history to be separate things as well, unless it is a part of history that covers Christian things. If we did Notgrass, I would probably just use the text and what goes with that for history. I have A Beka World Lit. already, and like that text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 Jean, All of us computer challenged people thank you! Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asta Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I don't have first hand experience with this program, but it is a one year survey course from ancients to modern. I e-mailed the publisher, and he said that they actually do it in a 3 year cycle, going more "in depth" with each successive year (as the kids mature, they are able to do more "meaty" things). The company appears to be Catholic, in case that matters to you. I saw this company mentioned on another thread. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamaof2andtwins Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 We are finished too, hooray, another vote for Notgrass, are you doing the entire program, or just the history? Thanks, Susan Well, I think we may use the lit portion as well. I do have another lit book also, but it is mostly short stories and poems. I have this on order, so I haven't not received it to look it over yet. Jennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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