Guest Virginia Dawn Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 http://nobelists.net It contains page after page of quotations. It also lists the education level of many of the entrants. Of course it doesn't prove anything but is very interesting reading. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbygirl Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 That's cool. Thank you for posting it up. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I love that Charles Darwin is a poster-boy for the god-squad. That ought to give some folks apoplexy :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbygirl Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I love that Charles Darwin is a poster-boy for the god-squad. That ought to give some folks apoplexy :D Bill LOL I didn't even see Darwin's name in there. When you said it I went back and looked. hehe It is interesting what he said though. I liked the quotes from him. He acknowledges a Creator at least. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 LOL I didn't even see Darwin's name in there. When you said it I went back and looked. hehe It is interesting what he said though. I liked the quotes from him. He acknowledges a Creator at least. :) See nothing to worry about with Darwin ;) :D And Galileo. Sure he was prosecuted by the Church for having the unscriptural temerity to claim the earth revolves around the sun. So the Inquisition put him on trial and convicted him of heresy. And he spent the rest of his life under arrest. This is a great list :lol: Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Then there is Jean-Paul Sartre, whose inclusion on the list is kind of funny since he was one of the most famous atheists of the Twentieth Century. Anyone fact-check this thing??? I'm enjoying the belly-laugh, but, uh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 And Albert “the idea of a Being who interferes with the sequence of events in the world is absolutely impossible†Einstein? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherryTX Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Then there is Jean-Paul Sartre, whose inclusion on the list is kind of funny since he was one of the most famous atheists of the Twentieth Century. Anyone fact-check this thing??? I'm enjoying the belly-laugh, but, uh.... Sheesh - the list is definitely flawed. Albert Einstein at best was agnostic. I don't care whether a scientist believes in God or not - its the work they accomplish, regardless of their faith. These types of lists irritate the heck out of me. It's what they did, not whether they were believers, non-believers. Sigh. (And yes, it irritates me with there are atheist lists as well like this.) Here are some quotes from Einstein - that show that: http://www.celebatheists.com/?title=Albert_Einstein Here is a few of his quotes: I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being. [Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, from article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997] The idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I am unable to take seriously. [Albert Einstein, letter to Hoffman and Dukas, 1946] I find it funny - because this site has all these quotes that show him as atheist or agnostic, and the other site has ones that make him look like he believes in God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Oh my Goodness! I was going to joke that at least Giordano Bruno isn't on the list, but there he is :001_huh: Burned at the stake by the Church for his dedication to science :lol: I'm starting to smell a rat :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Richard Dawkins???? How did Richard Dawkins make the list? :D OK I'm kidding on that one:tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherryTX Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 HAHAH! It is an interesting list, because many on it were considered Deists - which I find interesting, since they don't believe that God is really interacting with the world, how this list is actually helpful in anyway. It is ironic on many levels, as you have pointed out Spy Car. Regarding Voltaire - I am in the middle of a book about Voltaire's exile years - I believe the author is Ian Davidson - anyway, great book, and I have to say that I am not sure I would ever call him an atheist, I don't see the point of having him on this list. For one thing, the man was down right "immoral" if you compared his lifestyle to the way Christians were supposed to behave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 HAHAH! It is an interesting list, because many on it were considered Deists - which I find interesting, since they don't believe that God is really interacting with the world, how this list is actually helpful in anyway. It is ironic on many levels, as you have pointed out Spy Car. Regarding Voltaire - I am in the middle of a book about Voltaire's exile years - I believe the author is Ian Davidson - anyway, great book, and I have to say that I am not sure I would ever call him an atheist, I don't see the point of having him on this list. For one thing, the man was down right "immoral" if you compared his lifestyle to the way Christians were supposed to behave. Voltaire is still a step up on the scale of humanity from Nazi Scientist Werner Von Braun (who is, almost unbelievably, on the list). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Voltaire is still a step up on the scale of humanity from Nazi Scientist Werner Von Braun (who is, almost unbelievably, on the list). :confused: This list is nuts! SCHROEDINGER? He tells you that you can't even prove there's a cat in the box! He's supposed to believe in God? Anyone read about his life? I mean...wow, he certainly had a thing for the ladies. The only religion he really studied was Hinduism but I think that was more how the ideas related to physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 It's either very tongue in cheek or an excellent example of how to completely misrepresent someone's thought with selective quotation. It could be very useful for logic stage kids to pick apart some of these, look up the quotes and see how they've been distorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keptwoman Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 LOL you guys are giving me the giggles. I haven't even looked at the site yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I have recently read a book, Killing the Imposter God, which argued that the person who wrote the Golden Compass series was really a Christian and that the series really had a Christian message. :001_huh: Say what! He has stated many time in a most definitive way that he is an atheist. I sure that he is appalled by this book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherryTX Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Kant is on the list, as he should be. He makes me cringe - he is responsible for a whole lotta bad things, in my opinion, yet he is referred to as a great philosopher. Interesting. Without Kant, there would be no Karl Marx - which is ironic, since that lead to atheistic communism. These lists are fun to go through - but I personally don't see a lot of value in them. It is funny, because the Libertarian website has its lists as well, and lists Ayn Rand, who was not only NOT a Libertarian, but despised them. (I am not picking a fight with that political party here - just using it as a point how skewed and subjective these types of lists can be is all.) In the preface for his book Critique of Pure Reason, Kant wrote that "I have had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith." Okay - that statement bothers me, because he admits to evading reality, so for me, is one of the fundemental reasons that that many of his conclusions are so wrong. If I did believe in God, that statement would truly disturb me as well, because basically it is stating that you cannot have faith without ignoring knowledge. That is a very weak thing to say about faith by someone that belives in God. Not good for the cause, I would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheBrink Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) Eh, even the demons believe in God. So, a list of scientists who do so doesn't impress me much. :tongue_smilie: And, just because a scientist believes in God doesn't mean his belief in evolution isn't misguided and conversely, a belief in evolution doesn't necessarily prove someone doesn't believe in God. I think it's evident from the wide spectrum of beliefs represented on this board alone, belief in God can mean almost anything, from the most conservative view to the most liberal one. (and, I'm a young earth creationist who isn't interested in debating it. So there. :tongue_smilie: again ) Edited May 22, 2009 by OnTheBrink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 The list is called 50 Nobel Laureates and Other Great Scientists Who Believe in God, not who are Christian. Is he saying that they are all Christians? I didn't see that, but I may have missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) Oops, found my own answer. One section alone deals with Jesus, and it does not say that they are all Christians even in that section: About Albert Enistein: “- To what extent are you influenced by Christianity? - As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene. " Edited May 22, 2009 by angela in ohio does not SAY that they are... ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbygirl Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Eh, even the demons believe in God. So, a list of scientists who do so doesn't impress me much. :tongue_smilie: And, just because a scientist believes in God doesn't mean his belief in evolution isn't misguided and conversely, a belief in evolution doesn't necessarily prove someone doesn't believe in God. I think it's evident from the wide spectrum of beliefs represented on this board alone, belief in God can mean almost anything, from the most conservative view to the most liberal one. (and, I'm a young earth creationist who isn't interested in debating it. So there. :tongue_smilie: again ) You are not alone in your beliefs sister. I'm standing right there with you. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 See, I thought this was a fun thread just waiting to happen when I saw Charles Darwin at the bottom, and a few others. 1. Believing in God doesn't mean you're Christian. 2. Not everyone labelled a Deist was/is really a Deist. Calling yourself a Christian doesn't mean you're not a Deist if you think God is not involved; I've met Christians who are more Deists, and know of so-called Deists who were Christians. Labels are tossed around, aren't they? 3. I doubt that everyone on this list believes in God. But at the time, I didn't want to start things off, just bump this. I'm still thankful for the list being linked here, because it's good to know about these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizzyBee Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Anyone fact-check this thing??? I just glanced at the lists, but a few of the people I saw made me go, "hmmm." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I just glanced at the lists, but a few of the people I saw made me go, "hmmm." So many that I'm scratching my head and wondering if this is a "put-on", or if the creator of the list was really serious??? I honestly can't tell. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 So many that I'm scratching my head and wondering if this is a "put-on", or if the creator of the list was really serious??? I honestly can't tell. Bill Me neither. Nor do I plan to download that free e-book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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